Bin Laden: Seized documents show delusional leader

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I read that.Here in America we are privatizing everything. It is hard to know who is really affiliated with the real government anymore. This data is so extensive, does this not amaze you?
Also note that site has been forced to remove much of its data. The pictures must have violated some law or investigation thing.

Bin Laden: Seized documents show delusional leader

Meglomaniacs generally are delusional. A metaphysical thing ... I'm wondering if at judgement time he'll be able to claim 'mental illness' and so get away with all the misery and death he caused? Someone who is mentally ill can't be held fully responsible ...

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I'm starting to doubt that he may have caused misery and death. Did you listen to the supposed next door neighbor to supposed Bin Laden? It makes the whole story fishy.

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I agree that the data is quite extensive, I just have a hard time with its believability ( is that a word?) especially with that disclaimer.

But yea, I am American, I know all about the privatization...

Not to derail the topic but running around seizing documents and crashing helicopters 10 years after the guy is dead is such a waste of money. Most of the Top Secret lovers like having a huge spy network. I am the only voice on here saying we need to scale it back.

Originally posted by CountDrac

Bin Laden: Seized documents show delusional leader

www.cnn.com

There is no better way for historians to assess Osama bin Laden's thinking and the real state of al Qaeda as it was understood by its leaders in the years after 9/11 than the "treasure trove" of more than 6,000 documents that were recovered by the U.S. Navy SEALs who raided bin Laden's compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, a year ago.
In those documents we hear bin Laden speak in his own voice, unaware, of course, that one day his most private musings would end up in the hands of the CIA.

(visit the link for the full news article)

Think long and hard about this people.

Why does it take this long for these documents to get out ?

Answer: Because it took this long to come up with good forgeries that say what they want them to say.


Don't agree ? Don't care....It's there to talk about but nobody has brought it up.

Instead all of you are getting distracted by what is in them.

Yes it would take a long time to go over 6,000 documents, but I would bet they just wrote some of their own also having them say whatever they need to say to continue there delusional path.

The most obvious problem with the Bin Laden History is that he was never photographed in 10 years. He was a hero to many and did not have any reason to keep his image from them. His delusions could not have changed because of 9/11, which he denied ever giving orders to do. He was dead and the impersonator was not good enough to photograph.

Originally posted by JesuitGarlic
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Not only that, we also know they flew the rest of the Bin Laden family out of America after sept 11 while putting up a no fly zone for others.

We know from eye witness testimony from the next door neighbor of the raided house in pakistan that No osama was ever there and all the Seals when they got back on the helicopter to leave were killed when their chopper exploded. Then within a couple months another chopper goes down in Afghanistan containing another contingent of Seal Team 6.

Pakistani eye witness Testimony

Good luck collecting any documents from the mission when all people on the ground where blown apart and fire burns paper!

Also, the white house did come out and say the situation room photos were staged and they actually saw none of the operation on their screens....hmmm, I wonder why

- Fox news admits Bin Laden dead in 2001 Link
Veterans today article...Heroes Probably Murdered to Keep Them Quiet

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His story doesn't make sense.

He claims there were 3 helicopters, that one dropped off 10-12 men on Osama's veranda, and that 2 more showed up later.

If only one chopper offloaded troops where did the troops going door to door come from?

And if he truly feared these guys why did he go to the compound after being told not to?

then Seal Team Six who supposedly killed Usama/Osama Bin Laden


DIED themselves!!!

Most of the SEALs belonged to the same elite unit that killed Osama bin Laden, although they were not the same people who participated in the May raid into Pakistan that killed the al-Qaeda leader. The downing was a stinging blow to the lauded, tight-knit SEAL Team 6, months after its crowning achievement.

source

NO!

To quote your source: "belonged to the SAME ELITE UNIT that killed Osama bin Laden, although they were NOT THE SAME PEOPLE"

It says right there in your source article that they were different people, why are you using it as evidence for the opposite and even dropping the quote in that clearly states they DIDN'T die? Have you seriously assembled your material with so little care that you didn't notice the quote contradicted rather than supported your claim?

Originally posted by fatdeeman


then Seal Team Six who supposedly killed Usama/Osama Bin Laden

DIED themselves!!!

Most of the SEALs belonged to the same elite unit that killed Osama bin Laden, although they were not the same people who participated in the May raid into Pakistan that killed the al-Qaeda leader. The downing was a stinging blow to the lauded, tight-knit SEAL Team 6, months after its crowning achievement.

source

NO!

To quote your source: "belonged to the SAME ELITE UNIT that killed Osama bin Laden, although they were NOT THE SAME PEOPLE"

It says right there in your source article that they were different people, why are you using it as evidence for the opposite and even dropping the quote in that clearly states they DIDN'T die? Have you seriously assembled your material with so little care that you didn't notice the quote contradicted rather than supported your claim?

I believe there are a lot of seal team 6 soldiers. Not just the ones in the Osama raid.

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no one knows..

you do not know who died in the stealth copter crash..

you do not know who participated in the raid..

We not only learn the secret code name for the mission, but the team is identified - SEAL Team Six, as well as its commander - Vice Admiral Wiliam H. McRaven, the locaton of their home base in Virginia, that 24 men participated in the mission as well as specially trained K9 dog.

Some reports indicate that nearly 79 members of the US Special Forces/SAD were involved in the raid.

was it 24? 79?

a dog being involved & a dog dying is the only thing mentioned..

as to the total, no one knows..

and when pressed for answers..

the exit strategy is already in place..

how convenient..

also, this "half" of the team could have contradicted the claim..

it stinks of a cover up..

If he was killed, why is he still on the no fly list?

Same way dead people still get their social security checks Government beaucracy aint exactly ever been known to be smart.

OBL's "death" was a gov't work last year. He was dead for a decade prior. His "death" was just a "news" story to show you how and why we "need" the gov't.

He was one of the most photographed corkbags, then after the Tora Bora offensive he releases how many audio tapes compared to all the video tapes PRIOR to Tora Bora.

Of course the apologists will say that the audio tapes were done because video would've revealed his location... REALLY? With a camera, a sheet, and only a torso shot the only thing that can be concluded is who is in the frame... of course then we'd've seen it wasn't OBL talking...

Derek

He didn't have much money stitched into his clothes considering he was global target number one.

500euros-pffft,you can get that in one note!!
Was it his last one that he kept stashed away from his wives I wonder?



He should have had a fat wad of 500's if he wanted to maximize his escape chances I think.
Maybe someone stole extra money in the raid and hid it?

And also he had a stash of Viagra,which the media claimed were due to his "demanding"(!)wives...
Hehe
I just do not see that.Does not compute.
I wonder if the viagra was to aid a fast escape-can it pump your heart rate up,possibly giving you a burst of energy?
Is that possible-Was OBL huffing V up his shnozz when the SEAL's bust in?
Is that even how you take viagra?
I don't know..never needed it myself(so far).


I will always remember OBL as he was on the protest poster,next to Bert off Sesame Street.
Puppet next to puppet...

Bert, from the US children's television series Sesame Street, is featuring alongside Osama Bin Laden on some anti-US posters in Bangladesh.

news.bbc.co.uk...



Do you see Bert?
Middle ish of poster,right side.

This news on CNN....
is it a late April Fool ? a joke ? really press release ?
or what ?


I guess the guys who made this up having a laugh while doing the stuff. Too bad, working inside cubicle limits his knowledge on the subject.

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lets make up stories and guesses, what up in the next drama episode?
I'm going for "OBL docs points to - New Al-qaeda leader is in Iran, with army in Syria", the next big news ! Watch for it

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Well it's not so much that they won the war, but that we engaged in an un-winnable war by going overseas. For centuries empires have tried to conquer Afghanistan, and every one of those empires, including our own, has failed. It's a desolate place that should be left alone.

Furthermore, it made no sense to invade Afghanistan; a majority of the 9/11 alleged terrorists were Saudis, not Afghans. For some reason, we believed that Bin Laden was hiding in a cave, so we decided to invade a country who had done nothing to us and disembowel it. Of course, we hurt ourselves in doing so and now owe China trillions of dollars for funding the Afghan war. To add insult to injury, it's likely that Bin Laden, if he did not die of health problems in 2001 or 2006, spent most of his days in Pakistan, while we fought the Taliban who were basically the ruling party of the Afghan gov't and restored the opium fields which the Taliban worked so hard to shut down.

Sad.