Obama, The Great Untouchable

Friends...

I just woke this morning and was making my usual rounds of the subtle and strange, which typically includes a quick perusal through ATS and Infowars. I noticed that one of AJ's top stories this morning was a speculative piece called "Could Fast & Furious Scandal Bring Down Obama?". I saw this and just thought...nope.

After everything that I've seen Obama do, things that absolutely defy every notion of our Constitution, I just don't believe that the scandal exists that will permeate the minds of the American people. The malaise of the masses is so great now, so absolutely ingrained, that I just don't think anything will seem to shock them back into consciousness. If Watergate happened today, it would be forgotten by the next news cycle, I guarantee.

So, my question to the ATS community today is this, am I right or wrong? Do you agree or disagree? Is the psychological takeover of America complete?

Peace to all of you...

reply to post by BBobb


Holder will be forced to fall on the sword to protect Obama in regards to Fast and Furious.

Then we just have to keep spotlighting Obama's infractions and Chicago style bully tactics so that America can wise up to just who the man really is and who he is not.

The media is hell bent on keeping these stories on the back burner and out of the headlines. CBS tried to spotlight F and F and got whacked and bullied by Obama's henchmen. Now, CBS' lips are sealed...

Most people only start caring once they are directly affected by something.

Originally posted by RealSpoke
Most people only start caring once they are directly affected by something.

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

True. True...

reply to post by RealSpoke


So true. Unfortunately, anyone who is against Eric Holder, Obama, or the administration as a whole has been deemed racist. Eric Holder said exactly that, he said there were people in congress that don't like what he does, and doesn't agree with policies of the administration that are racist.

So, if anyone believes the administration is acting against the law or against the constitution, they are racist and are not to be believed. Just disgusting. But hey, let's give the college kids more money, and special interests more money, lets create a false controversy that women don't work, and then come out and say we know women work hard, demonize the very people that contribute big money to your campaign, and that way, you get reelected. Buy votes. That is exactly what this President is doing, buying votes and making others feel guilty. I shudder to think what will happen if he gets a second term.

How would bringing Obama change anything? He's not in charge and the people
who are will just put another puppet in his place. The corruption in America is
systemic. Just like a Lernaean hydra, cut off one head and two more will grow up in it's place.
The only way to stop it is to kill it.

reply to post by BBobb


how about this, his lies. Is that enough reason for people to think of his entire term as a scandal? Remind them.

Obama's Fails. Promised us allot. Did none of it. No he can't.
These are his fails, our fails, we all failed. He is not untouchable. Just don't vote for the liar.

www.politifact.com...

Direct the Secretary of Health and Human Services to conduct a comprehensive study of federal cancer initiatives

Double federal funding for cancer research

Appoint federal-level coordinator to oversee all federal autism efforts

Allow Medicare to negotiate for cheaper drug prices

Prevent drug companies from blocking generic drugs

Allow imported prescription drugs

Allow workers to claim more in unpaid wages and benefits in bankruptcy court

Forbid companies in bankruptcy from giving executives bonuses

Sign the Employee Free Choice Act, making it easier for workers to unionize

Phase out exemptions and deductions for higher earners

Repeal the Bush tax cuts for higher incomes

End no-bid contracts above $25,000

End income tax for seniors making less than $50,000

Require automatic enrollment in IRA plans

Require automatic enrollment in 401(k) plans

Create a mortgage interest tax credit for non-itemizers

Provide option for a pre-filled-out tax form

Create a foreclosure prevention fund for homeowners

Expand the child and dependent care credit

Increase the capital gains and dividends taxes for higher-income taxpayers

Provide the CDC $50 million in new funding to determine the most effective approaches for cancer patient care

Fully fund the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA)

Create a National Commission on People with Disabilities, Employment, and Social Security

Change federal rules so small businesses owned by people with disabilities can get preferential treatment for federal contracts.

Reduce the threshhold for the Family and Medical Leave Act from companies with 50 employees to companies with 25 employees

Provide a $1.5 billion fund to help states launch programs for paid family and medical leave

Require employers to provide seven paid sick days per year

Expand the Family Medical Leave Act to include leave for domestic violence or sexual assault

Form international group to help Iraq refugees

Work with Russia to move nuclear weapons off hair-trigger alert

Close the Guantanamo Bay Detention Center

Develop an alternative to President Bush's Military Commissions Act on handling detainees

Secure ratification of the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT)

Seek to negotiate a political agreement on Cyprus

Reinstate special envoy for the Americas

Double the Peace Corps

Create a public "Contracts and Influence" database

Allow five days of public comment before signing bills

Tougher rules against revolving door for lobbyists and former officials

Double funding for afterschool programs

Expand the Employment Non-Discrimination Act to include sexual orientation and gender identity

Urge states to treat same-sex couples with full equality in their family and adoption laws

Allow bankruptcy judges to modify terms of a home mortgage

Increase the minimum wage to $9.50 an hour

Restore Superfund program so that polluters pay for clean-ups

Re-establish the National Aeronautics and Space Council

Support human mission to moon by 2020

Pay for the national service plan without increasing the deficit

Reduce the number of middle managers in the federal workforce

Strengthen the Age Discrimination in Employment Act

Limit term of director of national intelligence

Give annual "State of the World" address

Reduce earmarks to 1994 levels

Enact windfall profits tax for oil companies

Create cap and trade system with interim goals to reduce global warming

Use revenue from cap and trade to support clean energy and environmental restoration

Require plug-in fleet at the White House

Require more flex-fuel cars for the federal government

Mandate flexible fuel vehicles by 2012

Provide an annual report on "state of our energy future"

Allow penalty-free hardship withdrawals from retirement accounts in 2008 and 2009

Recognize the Armenian genocide

No family making less than $250,000 will see "any form of tax increase."

Negotiate health care reform in public sessions televised on C-SPAN

Create a public option health plan for a new National Health Insurance Exchange.

Introduce a comprehensive immigration bill in the first year

I have been an opposed to every administration since JFK. I was never called a racist for it until Obama became president.

Considering Obamas aid to the muslim brotherhood in Egypt and Libya we actually for the first time saw what the aid really meant.

Running Guns to Mexico they say arming drug dealers but there is a well know Fact that the muslim brotherhood is in Mexico right along with Hamas and Hezbollah.

The real resonas Holder is blocking congress.

Digest that thought for a little while and see if it makes any sense.

Originally posted by BBobb
Friends...

"Could Fast & Furious Scandal Bring Down Obama?". I saw this and just thought...nope.

If Watergate happened today, it would be forgotten by the next news cycle, I guarantee.

Fast and Furious?...as much of a cluster-ef as that was, it takes a real stretch of imagination to connect the dots and contend the President thought up or even OKed a specific undercover ATF operation that started 3 years before he took office.

You liken it to Watergate?...Do you know what Watergate was?

reply to post by Indigo5


That was beautiful Fast and Furious started over 3 years ago? Never seen the current potus or their party ever miss the chance to blame Bush for everything and yet all Holder and the Admin is doing is blocking the investigation.

Which means what now?

They are trying to hide their duplicitous actions.

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Indigo5

 

That was beautiful Fast and Furious started over 3 years ago? Never seen the current potus or their party ever miss the chance to blame Bush for everything

I din't assign blame to Bush, only stated a known fact. The ATF started to let guns walk in 2006...and niether President Bush or President Obama authorized it.

Facts matter.

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by BBobb
Friends...

"Could Fast & Furious Scandal Bring Down Obama?". I saw this and just thought...nope.

If Watergate happened today, it would be forgotten by the next news cycle, I guarantee.

Fast and Furious?...as much of a cluster-ef as that was, it takes a real stretch of imagination to connect the dots and contend the President thought up or even OKed a specific undercover ATF operation that started 3 years before he took office.

You liken it to Watergate?...Do you know what Watergate was?

Fair enough, but I wasn't likening this to Watergate, but rather to how the 24 hour news cycle has created a mass societal ADD in which TPTB and the MSM simply "change the channel" on the people, and there then exists something akin to a mass forgetting. It reminds me of that movie UP that came out not terribly long ago with the talking dog that would forget everything in the middle of a sentence so long as he saw a squirrel.

My thread wasn't actually about Fast & Furious specifically in this regard, but rather how there seems to be no accountability any longer for anything because the people are so wilfully manipulated and distracted. My point with Watergate is that if it occured today, it would not bear the same consequence. It would be spun, diffused, and forgotten.

reply to post by BBobb


Well, I agree with a lot of what you said there. Standard operating proceedure in DC when someone gets caught is "Keep your head down and hope the Kardashian sisters do something dumb in the next 12 hours" - which is a safe bet...Yes...national ADD. Sad, but true.

reply to post by BIHOTZ


You left out the part about how the "Promises Broken" represent just 13% of the 500+ pledges he made during his campaign and that he made efforts to keep every one of those "promises broken", but ran into the GOP house on nearly every occcasion.

www.politifact.com...

Or that the GOP pledged 57 items that they would do in thier first year in controlling the house...they have kept just 10 of those 57 promises.

www.politifact.com...

In this siuation Eric Holder want a supuort from everyone. But unfortunately, anyone who is against Eric Holder, Obama, or the administration as a whole has been deemed racist. According to the Eric Holder statement there were people in congress that don't like what he does, and doesn't agree with policies of the administration that are racist.