Russian Third Generation Stealth

Oh yea, plasma glows, its hot, like a burning match. Jesus.

It never ceases to amaze me how vigorously some ATS members argue topics nature of which they now nothing about.

vorazechul posed the only valid question here so far, who here actually knows what plasma is?

It's a pattern, supercavitating torpedo? Impossible, Russkies must be lying, now Iran has them pointed at our carriers. Plasma stealth? Nonsense, must be lying again, since they didn't show us one, not even a single "stealth" plane which we can examine and indeed confirm its stealthy invisibility qualities. Until they do so, we'll just not believe them, until one lands in our back yard.

I guess Russian lying about plasma stealth is just a good excuse for world scientists to hold annual conferences, so they all can get some free buffet.

Here's is the agenda of the 9th annual Stealth conference.

"
9.10 PLASMA STEALTH
At the leading edge of signature management

Reducing RCS through plasma generation - an overview
Advantages
removes the need for RAM coating and maintenance
provides a heat shield for the fuselage
improved aerodynamics
Disadvantages
huge power requirement
blocks the aircraft’s own radar
visible plasma trail
Turning theory into reality - an update on developments at the Keldysh Research Centre
Future challenges and possibilities
Mr Antonoliy Koroteev, Director, Keldysh Research Centre (Ke R C).



9.50 PLASMA STEALTH ANTENNA
The American approach to plasma stealth

Introduction
The principles of the stealth antenna
Developments
Application - challenges and benefits
Future possibilities
Mr Igor Alexeff, Prof EE Emeritus, University Of Tennesee. "

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>there goes russian third generation stealth -
>"electrostatic energy around aircraft", ***visibility-reduction*** system.

For naked eye visibility-reduction they play with the spectrum band.

Originally posted by titus

"A Russian scientific research organisation is to offer for export a 'bolt-on' stealth device that it claims renders non-stealthy aircraft practically invisible to radar. The system, which envelops the aircraft in a cloak of ionised gas known as a plasma, is said to be fully developed, with work on a "third-generation visibility-reduction system" under way.

In the opinion of designers at Mikoyan and Sukhoi, the expense of all-embracing low-observable technology as applied in the US Air Force's F-117 and B-2 outweighs its effectiveness. Russians prefer to stress the 'balance' achieved in their latest-generation of fighter designs between aerodynamic efficiency and stealth.

Keldysh NITs said that "first- and second-" generation plasma-generators had been tested on the ground and in flight. The centre is working on a third-generation system "based on new physical principles", a possible reference to the use of electrostatic energy around an airframe to reduce RCS.


Jane's Defence Wekly, March 17, 1999


PS: note the date - 1999 (!)

there goes russian third generation stealth - "electrostatic energy around aircraft", visibility-reduction system.


according to THIS (in russian):
Russia will export first and second generation stealth (!) - cuz they, russians, have third generation stealth...

this third generation stealth was supposed to be tested on Russian AJAX Hypersonic Aircraft

>All evidance tells us that Russian plasma stealth is not operational,
>has never been operational, and probably will not be operational
>for many years.

The technique has been operational even before U.S. stealth in the
F117.

>Add to that the fact that plasma stealth would make an
>aircraft glow very brightly

YES IT DOES!!! The massively improved plasma stealth is more than that today. They can throw up the plasma in nanoseconds. It is impressive
to see -- sc-ifi-ish.

>conventional stealth shaping and RAM coating techniques do not have.

The Russians mostly apply that concept in their public aircraft.

>That is a bad trade off that US made stealth aircraft don't have -
>they make all signatures as small as possable.

U.S. stealth aircraft are not invisible to the Russians. They can
see them!!! with their own technology.

U.S. stealth is only useful in third world countries, and those
are the countries they are attacking.

Originally posted by American Mad Man
This has been rehashed many times since I have been on this site.

All evidance tells us that Russian plasma stealth is not operational, has never been operational, and probably will not be operational for many years.

Add to that the fact that plasma stealth would make an aircraft glow very brightly at night and produce a large heat signature and it becomes aparent that this technology has serious draw backs that conventional stealth shaping and RAM coating techniques do not have.

Plasma stealth will give you a small RCS - but at the expense of making thermal signatures much higher. That is a bad trade off that US made stealth aircraft don't have - they make all signatures as small as possable.