My very first UFO sighting (with pictures)

Originally posted by TrentReznor

Ok, look at the light trails, they do look like sparks your right.
but also look at each spark segment they are all perfectly the same shape.

the odds of all thoes generaited sparks being the exact same shape Is
zero

It would never look like that.

I'm sorry to differ but they are NOT sparks

I would be inclined to say that the object was flashing verry fast
Un noticeable to the eye, the eye would see it as a constant light
but not the camera

thats why u have spaces in between the "sparks"

Its a camera effect

The same shape? Spark trails being the same shape? SHAPE? Does it even MATTER? The fact that your trying to dispel the handglider theory solely on the fact that you think the spark shapes its emitting are strange is just silly.

Besides if the sparks are coming out at exactly the same rate (which they would be on a stunt craft, you wouldnt have one spitting out tiny sparks and the other blasting away) and the fact that the things emitting the sparks are facing the same direction its only logical that they would be the same length. Furthermore there are spaces between them because they are coming out of four SEPERATE things, not one. Those are definetly sparks.

[edit on 1-10-2004 by Seeking Soul]

Case closed imho....glider with sparks... I can certainly see why one would question this in the sky though, hardly a common sight....



www.xabora.com..." target='_blank' class='tabOff'/>

The same shape? Spark trails being the same shape? SHAPE? Does it even MATTER? The fact that your trying to dispel the handglider theory solely on the fact that you think the spark shapes its emitting are strange is just silly.

YES it does MATTER, read and think before you attack next time Seeking Soul,

I wasn't dispeling the handglider theory alltogether
I was just stating to kessel why I don't think they are sparks

In fact I can only think It was a hanglider,
I just carn't see any "sparks" and would say It was some kind of flouressent strobe tube.

look


lots of sparks randomly spread out in no even pattern

look



a perfectly even pattern of light

the shape is more than strange.

If you think Im talking c.r.a.p. seeking soul

just ignore my post instead of not reading It properly
and claiming I'm silly

no offence

Originally posted by TrentReznor

The same shape? Spark trails being the same shape? SHAPE? Does it even MATTER? The fact that your trying to dispel the handglider theory solely on the fact that you think the spark shapes its emitting are strange is just silly.

YES it does MATTER, read and think before you attack next time Seeking Soul,

I wasn't dispeling the handglider theory alltogether
I was just stating to kessel why I don't think they are sparks

In fact I can only think It was a hanglider,
I just carn't see any "sparks" and would say It was some kind of flouressent strobe tube.

look

lots of sparks randomly spread out in no even pattern

look

a perfectly even pattern of light

the shape is more than strange.

If you think Im talking c.r.a.p. seeking soul

just ignore my post instead of not reading It properly
and claiming I'm silly

no offence

You ARE being silly.

Look



This photograph is blurry. The bright area is not as wide as the picture shows. It�s a photographic illusion caused by shaky camera work.

Look



This one is motion blurred too; you can see a ghost of the hang glider above the one that�s clear. It�s a photographic illusion caused by shaky camera work. The sparks are the shame shape because of the blur!

Originally posted by TrentReznor
"willem dafoe"

(mpeake knows what I mean)

Originally posted by mpeake
Ha! Guess who's getting the coffee

(Sorry everyone, another inside joke)

You publicly let everyone know that there is a hidden dialogue going on, not that what you posted isn�t obvious.

Yes, the Green Goblin on a rocket glider. Good idea, stick with it. Watch out for the pumpkin bombs. The Green Goblin is my favorite super villain

Yes, mpeake was grilling out with friends and there probably was alcohol involved. So what?



[edit on 1-10-2004 by Seth76]

a perfectly even pattern of light

the shape is more than strange.

That's simply a trail due to movement. The simple solution is to simply ask Mpeake if the photo is what he saw, or did he something more akin to sparks, that then showed up like this on camera.... The "ghosting" of the glider also makes it apparent...

During his graceful descent, smoke and streamers trail behind, punctuated with brilliant flashes, streaming showers and dazzling streaks of custom designed daylight pyrotechnics...and, he does it in the dark! To witness the full glory of his dazzling pyrotechnics performance, be sure to catch one of his spectacular night shows. Dan is also a licensed pyro-technician. He designs and installs all of the special effects on the wing himself.

The performance concludes with a short but smooth one handed landing on the two small wheels. One handed, because he's usually waving to all of his fans with the other hand... After a police car or helicopter delivers his wheelchair, he rolls to the show-line, signing programs and answering questions.

He also commonly uses a tow-launched glider, so this would explain the lack of nearby hills, etc. I looked at the properties of the pic, and then visited the site. This guy, or someone just like him, was in the area at the time I'd wager....

[edit on 1-10-2004 by Gazrok]

Looks like a kite on fire to me. But I wasn't there.

Seth you couldn't be any more wrong! The comment that Trentreznor and I were joking about is from Willem Dafoe in the movie "Boondocks Saints" which is where I got my avatar from. When you said Green Goblin, I actually had no idea what you were talking about.

That's simply a trail due to movement. The simple solution is to simply ask Mpeake if the photo is what he saw, or did he something more akin to sparks, that then showed up like this on camera.... The "ghosting" of the glider also makes it apparent...

No sparks at all...just a continuous flame.

Originally posted by mpeake
Seth you couldn't be any more wrong! The comment that Trentreznor and I were joking about is from Willem Dafoe in the movie "Boondocks Saints" which is where I got my avatar from. When you said Green Goblin, I actually had no idea what you were talking about.

He sometimes uses a jet of flame too...

users.ap.net...



[edit on 1-10-2004 by Gazrok]

Willem on the left

As I asked before. There is no place near by for a hang glider to vault off of. It just doesnt add up and those pics surely do not look anything like those hanglider pics already posted. *shrug* not saying its an alian craft I'm just not buying that its a hanglider.

very intresting I didn't at first realize the willem dafoe and spiderman connection

green goblin
someone else said that a month ago on here when I mensiond it


I thought ? green goblin in boondock saints?
I need to watch it again I've, I've missed somthing.

someone else said that a month ago on here when I mensiond it

yes I see mpeak's photo contains
a hanglider with a flame

well done ...case closed

still no sparks I was right

and just for the record I can clearly see the motion blur caused by the camera, thats why there are "2" hangliders and "2" sets of sparks
however I already knew that, but I mean all af the "sparks" are the same from left to right not from the movement of camera

hmmmmmmmm,

looking upon this thread from start to finnish
I see a different perspective now,

yes It is a hanglider with a flame/sparks

yes I'm silly, but IT wouldent be any fun If I wasnt.

Ok.... look closely at this picture.



The shape is odd right?

Now look in the lower right hand corner at the guys head.
You can clearly see the camera movement caused by a quick shot
to keep the cam on the object.

His head has a little bit of a ghost effect you can see it in the images
by using edge detect to find any repeating areas in the image.
The Object


The Man's Head


Quite easy to see when you compare it.

[edit on 1-10-2004 by Xabora]

saying that xabora,
concludes that the object was smaller than pictured and UBER far-away, like so far away
that he must of been In seriuos trouble lol

I wouldent be supprised If you see on the news soon

"crazy hanglider man found washed up on beach"

people who strap explosives to to there hangliders are not stupid!!!
they stay in a safe enviroment quite close to the ground and will have fire crew on standby. If he was that high up

he must of been in deeeep S.h.i.t.

poor guy,
he should have been the one to claim the X-prize lol

[edit on 1-10-2004 by TrentReznor]

Originally posted by TrentReznor
people who strap explosives to to there hangliders are not stupid!!!
they stay in a safe enviroment quite close to the ground and will have fire crew on standby.

This mirrored my thoughts when the talk of hangliders was mentioned. Not so the close to the ground part, but rather the safety part.

Pyrotechnics over a residential area? If they were professionals, and if your area government is anything like mine, the fire deptartment would have been involved in some function. Such displays would include permits and safety in my area. Something to check on if you are serious about finding out what it was.

You said you checked the papers, but were you actively looking for anything concerning hangliders? Seems to me a demostration would have some coverage. It's not like pryotechnic hanglider displays are common.

Just a couple of ideas to cover some bases.

As I asked before. There is no place near by for a hang glider to vault off of.

What part of towed-launcher was unclear??? At least read the link for the pics above...

You said you checked the papers, but were you actively looking for anything concerning hangliders? Seems to me a demostration would have some coverage. It's not like pryotechnic hanglider displays are common.

It was probably just a rehearsal or test. I'd agree with checking the local papers for mention of a show nearby and near the time frame... Perhaps calling the local fire department would also be a good idea....???

[edit on 1-10-2004 by Gazrok]

The "sparks" trails all being parallel to each other tells me that the camera has a slow shutter speed, or a slow capture speed. When the picture was taken, the camera was moved so as to keey the object in the center of the frame. With a slow shutter speed, or capture speed the intense light from the object would infact actually leave trails on the photo. This can be seen on most cameras. Pan your camera across a room, and take a picture while panning. The same effect is shown even better in a dark roon with a digital alarm clock for example. Sweep the camera across the clock numbers, and take the picture. The numbers will come out blurred, and the blurred lines will be exactly parallel.

Now take the parallel lines away from the picture, and you can get a more accurate visualization of what the original object looked like.

As for me, I do not believe that it was a hang-glider, because he said that there was sound, and also the hang-glider would have gotten bigger as it decented towards the ground, so the lights would have appeared larger.

Originally posted by TrentReznor
hmmmmmmmm,

looking upon this thread from start to finnish
I see a different perspective now,

yes It is a hanglider with a flame/sparks

yes I'm silly, but IT wouldent be any fun If I wasnt.

ha ha so true What do you say we call it a truce on the spark/flame/glowing thingy?

Guys I think we're just picking at old bones here. Its a handglider. Its a hangdlider that was launched off a special towed launcher, that is emitting sparks/a single flame for show purposes.

Originally posted by TreyFlipAWS

As for me, I do not believe that it was a hang-glider, because he said that there was sound, and also the hang-glider would have gotten bigger as it decented towards the ground, so the lights would have appeared larger.

It was probably making a sound because of the flame shooting out of the back of it. That would be bound to make some sort of noise. What type of sound was it mpeake?

Furthermore there was no mention of craft descending to the ground. mpeake mentioned that it either flew away out of sight, or the flames coming out of the back were extinguished and they could no longer see it.