Two Nights: A Home Invasion and UFO's ( Part 1 )

reply to post by theabsolutetruth
Im going to check out your thread on the fourth kind. The movie really intrigued me and I want to know more about it. Do you feel their is alot of truth to it?
Its also some confirmation im not too crazy because like you, the owl thing was news to me. You probably never realized the connection during the80s. Makes you kinda feel good knowing others have documented experiences that you've had aswell. Especially when you've wondered and then get the news.

reply to post by pot8er
Thank you for the reply. Your account.....just plain earie. Gave me the creeps reading it. Its a frightening feeling.
Waking up to pure madness. Spooks runnin outta the room. It gives me a bad feel. As amnislupus said. A 'good' entity would not break in in the middle of the nite to rumage through your stuff (or study your gf ) and an honest person wouldnt just bolt out before being caught.
Thank you for your post and interest n my story.
TXML

Do some research on Whitley Strieber. He was repeatedly visited by otherworldly beings. The beings sometimes appear as large white owls. Huge piercing black eyes. Many UFO cases involved seeing an owl prior to the encounter. In the Amazon they are known as ikuya. Spiritual watchers of the jungle. They are there to observe, but I must admit the intrusion was different. They may have been around you, or the property for some time. They are not to be feared. The preservation of Earth is there main goal. That would explain there interest in your seeds. They sometimes take samples of flora and fauna. Radioactive contamination also seems to be a major concern of theirs. Hope this was informative.

I'm in a bit of a rush at the moment . . . and have read only 15-20% of your post . . . the critical part of what your wife saw and your running out and the prints in the dew.

I do not doubt that you had a 'critter' intrusion. 0.00000% doubt.

I would strongly encourage you to check out the wealth of information from the panel of scholars Guy Malone assembled . . .

www.ANCIENTofDAYS.NET...

www.ALIENRESISTANCE.ORG...

I will note . . . while I have studied the topic since 1962 . . . I have NOT wanted to get close to the phenomena.

Initially I may have had more of a neutral and more curious--akin to yours--sort of orientation.

When I quickly became convinced that they were highly likely and then totally convinced that they were 100% definitely

going to be involved in the GREAT DELUSION of the END TIMES that the New Testament speaks of, I was even more cautious.

Guy Malone had abduction experiences as a teen.

He learned to put a stop to them through spiritual warfare prayers. He has since helped upwards of 400 individual/family cases stop such goings on. Some such goings on had been occurring down through several generations.

over the process of his 10-20 years of ministry in the field, he has become convinced that:

1. the critters are fallen angels. All else is a staged hoax charade, pretense, delusion about them. . . . not that they aren't real--and not that their craft are not tangible though some are evidently 'alive.' But that they are not who they purport to be doing what they purport to be doing.

2. Scientist Jacques Vallee studied the topic for more than 10 years and concluded that the critters are evil spiritual entities coming from a dark spiritual dimension. That's congruent with Guy Malone's findings.

3. Guy has determined to his satisfcation and has convinced me that no authentic Christian with an active authentic, confessed up, repented up RELATIONSHIP with Jesus The Christ is actively harrassed, assaulted, abducted, implanted, impregnated etc. by the critters.

4. There is the case of the woman--I forget her name . . . a famous seemingly authentic Christian abduction case--wrote a book or two . . . had some favorable attitudes eventually toward the critters . . . wrote in one book of some monkey like critters evidently on a distant planet she was taken to etc . . . anyway--her case is always offered as a case of a purportedly authentic Christian that was still repeatedly abducted. Guy checked her case out thoroughly.

5. And, as in all the other cases . . . in her case too, THERE WAS A SPIRITUAL DOOR THAT SHE HAD SPIRITUALLY-LEGALLY OPENED allowing the critters fairly unfettered access to her life . . . and they successfully seduced her along their path therefrom.

6. The "SPIRITUALLY LEGAL" access can be via reading horoscopes, 8-ball, ouiji boards, tarot cards, seances, ancestral demonizations in the family, chronic perverse habitual sins of various types--particularly sexual stuff; witchcraft, idolatry, brazen persistent rebellion; etc.

7. Some folks using the "Name and Blood of Jesus" who have no relationship with Jesus have not been as successful in preventing or stopping some events according to some claims.

8. I've never heard of a single case--nor has Guy Malone, IIRC, wherein the person had an active, current authentic relationship with Jesus that spiritual warfare prayers in Jesus' Name and spiritually applying Jesus' Blood to the home, situation etc. failed to work. In some rarer cases, a series of sessions may have been required to thoroughly break free but progress was made immediately and completed in relatively quick order.

9. I realize that on ATS, this is NOT a popular perspective. The TRUTH is often unpopular. Particularly for those who are interested in crafting "their own 'truth' " for their own purposes.

10. We all like to rationalize what we PERSONALLY PREFER to do--whether our motivations are from ideal saintly origins or the opposite. And, most of us are quite skillful in such rationalizations.

11. I will have to read your whole OP to see if you talked about WHEN all this occurred . . . and other important details.

12. My brief segment reading indicated to me that the critters definitely are treating your home, person and family as THEIR SPIRITUALLY LEGAL TURF to DO WITH AS THEY SEE FIT.

13. I would expect that they will continue to do so and escalate their interactions as they see fit for their dark, deceptive purposes.

14. I tried alerting Stan Romanek's wife to alternatives to the intense involvement and harrassment he and his family are routinely subjected to. My impression was that they were so immersed in it now that it is part of their identity and they don't WANT out of it. That, imho, is foolishness to the max. Deadly serious foolishness. He of all people should know that.

15. out of characters . . . Will try and get back to this later today. Thanks much

Originally posted by txMEGAlithic
reply to post by theabsolutetruth
Dang I was a little too slow. Yeah I don't recall specifically but a huge owl has been lurking around my property for a while now. He always stares me down when I see him. Like he's looking into me to see who I am. I always notice him too because he doesn't try to hide. He wants to be noticed, I get the feeling. I do not recall seeing him around the time of the intruder. And Maybe not with the orb sighting either. Nothing comes to mind.
Well I'm sure you're reading part two by now. Glad you found my thread. I want your input.

TXML

Wasn't there a hoaxed film out last year about Aliens and a huge owl that was hanging
around the victims house. It was supposed to be an alien too.

My bad if i have it wrong

Originally posted by Oannes
Do some research on Whitley Strieber. He was repeatedly visited by otherworldly beings. The beings sometimes appear as large white owls. Huge piercing black eyes. Many UFO cases involved seeing an owl prior to the encounter. In the Amazon they are known as ikuya. Spiritual watchers of the jungle. They are there to observe, but I must admit the intrusion was different. They may have been around you, or the property for some time. They are not to be feared. The preservation of Earth is there main goal. That would explain there interest in your seeds. They sometimes take samples of flora and fauna. Radioactive contamination also seems to be a major concern of theirs. Hope this was informative.

Whitley Strieber made the whole story up...........
and that is a fact peeps. A hoaxer and a fraud!!!

ufofrauds.blogspot.co.uk... of-gray-con-man.html

Originally posted by Oannes
Do some research on Whitley Strieber. He was repeatedly visited by otherworldly beings. The beings sometimes appear as large white owls. Huge piercing black eyes. Many UFO cases involved seeing an owl prior to the encounter. In the Amazon they are known as ikuya. Spiritual watchers of the jungle. They are there to observe, but I must admit the intrusion was different. They may have been around you, or the property for some time. They are not to be feared. The preservation of Earth is there main goal. That would explain there interest in your seeds. They sometimes take samples of flora and fauna. Radioactive contamination also seems to be a major concern of theirs. Hope this was informative.

Here's what I dug up on the so-called "ikuya".

Bernardo Peixoto, a shaman of the Brazilian Ipixuma tribe, gained a PhD, qualified as an anthropologist, and held a teaching post during the 1990s at the Smithsonian Institution in Washington DC. He is, in addition, a UFO abductee, and identifies the sinister small-bodied, large-eyed beings usually known in the West as “Grays” with spirits that the Ipixuma call the ikuyas. Remembering his childhood in the Amazon, he told John Mack about an occasion during a tribal ceremony when the figure of an owl was seen perching at the top of a tree. The elders chanted, “Ikuya! Ikuya! Ikuya! ” Bernardo asked them why they thought the creature was an ikuya and not simply an owl: They said that, because they were in a trance, they could see light and force around the owl, which told them it was a humanoid in disguise. Also when they shoot arrows at the ikuyas disguised as owls, the arrows seem to pass through them without killing them.

This is a passage from Graham Hancock's book Supernatural.
There is another book written by John E. Mack, Passport to the Cosmos, that contains the same paragraph, nearly word-for-word.

These are the only places I can find the term "ikuya" used anywhere, although I will admit I didn't spend enough time searching. I would also like to note that the tribe name Ipixuma is a misnomer, as both a misspelling of Ipixuna and because they are known as Uru-e-wau-wau.

I could find no information concerning these "ikuya" and the preservation of Earth.
This seems to be a jumbling of other mythologies; a doctored amalgamation.
Sampling plant life is one thing, I could understand the desire to study from an extraterrestrial standpoint, but breaking into someone's home just for a few vegetable seeds is something entirely different.

I will not say "don't fear them". Fear is a natural animal instinct that has kept us alive for thousands of years.

reply to post by txMEGAlithic


When I was working in Entertainment at The Venetian Hotel in Vegas, I had a coworker confide in me that he had been abducted. He had said that the only thing he remembers for sure was a message, that message was "The Earth is being destroyed by humans, and it is our responsibility to heal it." He had sad he was shown visions of the destruction, and that the message was meant as a warning. He did not feel threatened per say, but the visions gave him cause to be alarmed, and of course being abducted in itself was probably very unsettling.

Now with that being said, he also in his home life would see light phenomena in his home, which acted like ghosts would, but bore a striking resemblance to his Alien Experiences. Fast Fast movements, and could interact with the environment.

With other witnesses, in our workplace. I was not there, but He would communicate with a knocking noise in the Empty part of the partly constructed, Stairwell/Construction Recess in the Hotel where we had our HQ for the Madame Tussad's Exhibit. We worked in the Monster's Alive Haunted Show. Anywho, he would knock, then it would knock. Well it travelled down to about 5 feet or less above us, where if your were to look up somebody should have been there, but no-one was.

While we were entertainers by trade, we weren't taken to lying to each other, we were coworkers spending 35-50 hours a week with each other in a cast room, before we went out to the maze to scare the tourists.

I liked the man, he had integrity, he was older than me in his late 40's had a "tween" daughter whom he loved very much, and was his little buddy. I would run into him all over the city of Vegas at ren-faire/sci-fi events. She the daughter also seemed very well adjusted, and a happy girl, so the character qualities of these people seemed legit.

I lost contact with them, It's been 7 years, but I think his name was Tom. He had also been on one or two of the early UFO shows on the Sci-fi channel. But he said he didnt like the venue, they treated him like a quack.

I just wanted to share that. I have had personal experiences as well. But your Ghosty type ones made me remember my friend Tom's mixed encounters.

Originally posted by txMEGAlithic
reply to post by theabsolutetruth
Im going to check out your thread on the fourth kind. The movie really intrigued me and I want to know more about it. Do you feel their is alot of truth to it?
Its also some confirmation im not too crazy because like you, the owl thing was news to me. You probably never realized the connection during the80s. Makes you kinda feel good knowing others have documented experiences that you've had aswell. Especially when you've wondered and then get the news.

The movie was like confirmation to me. I was only 14 when the first owl thing happened and never knew a thing about owls, since then it further fueled my search for the truth and bought loads of books on many many things from occult to many religions. I was brought up Christian and even though have learned a lot since childhood, still believe in 'something' like a higher intelligence at least and like another poster said, I would advise keeping faith too, maybe it is this faith that enables the connection, or allows the ability to know of other realms.

Thanks also for the second part, will read it again and post soon.

Originally posted by rigel4

Originally posted by txMEGAlithic
reply to post by theabsolutetruth
Dang I was a little too slow. Yeah I don't recall specifically but a huge owl has been lurking around my property for a while now. He always stares me down when I see him. Like he's looking into me to see who I am. I always notice him too because he doesn't try to hide. He wants to be noticed, I get the feeling. I do not recall seeing him around the time of the intruder. And Maybe not with the orb sighting either. Nothing comes to mind.
Well I'm sure you're reading part two by now. Glad you found my thread. I want your input.

TXML

Wasn't there a hoaxed film out last year about Aliens and a huge owl that was hanging
around the victims house. It was supposed to be an alien too.

My bad if i have it wrong

Never heard of that movie, yet.

the Forth Kind wiki
I've seen this movie myself and find it very intresting. What's more, is the references posters have made with owls. When you see what the significance of the owls are in this movie, it will make your skin crawl. In fact, I do not look at owls the same way myself. Also, if there is a sherd of truth to the movie, do not get hypnotised. I will warn you, this movie might hit home for some of you. It is very scary and chilling to watch. At the same time I found it enlightening. Strange.

Just checked my thread on The Fourth Kind, didn't realise it was only a few posts and not worth reading. I recall posting / reading another thread on this movie also so maybe was recalling this. Anyhow, apologies for putting the link on here and would advise to read some other thread on this movie instead of the link to mine.

reply to post by txMEGAlithic


Looks like your story is hidden, I tried finding it after just reading it like 2 min. prior and it was nowhere to be found except for the archives, weird. Anyway, I believe you because I had many strange expereinces as a kid, but they always slow as one becomes of age and is able to( or forced to through drugs in the food/air/water) tune them out.

Originally posted by Siberbat
the Forth Kind wiki
I've seen this movie myself and find it very intresting. What's more, is the references posters have made with owls. When you see what the significance of the owls are in this movie, it will make your skin crawl. In fact, I do not look at owls the same way myself. Also, if there is a sherd of truth to the movie, do not get hypnotised. I will warn you, this movie might hit home for some of you. It is very scary and chilling to watch. At the same time I found it enlightening. Strange.

You all do realize that "The Fourth Kind" is a work of fiction.
I can provide links , but it is easy to prove this on Google!

reply to post by rigel4


Yes I do, it is the concept and the accounts from other poster which got my wheels turning. Can we not think...What if? My view on owls, however, is still the same. Movie or not.

BTW S&F to the OP for a facinating account.

Originally posted by rigel4

Originally posted by Siberbat
the Forth Kind wiki
I've seen this movie myself and find it very intresting. What's more, is the references posters have made with owls. When you see what the significance of the owls are in this movie, it will make your skin crawl. In fact, I do not look at owls the same way myself. Also, if there is a sherd of truth to the movie, do not get hypnotised. I will warn you, this movie might hit home for some of you. It is very scary and chilling to watch. At the same time I found it enlightening. Strange.

You all do realize that "The Fourth Kind" is a work of fiction.
I can provide links , but it is easy to prove this on Google!

It is a work of fiction, but at first they put it out as factual based, maybe some of the research was factual.

I do believe your encounter. Thanks for sharing it!

Children are highly perceptive and non-judgmental. This is one reason they pick up on a new language quickly, they don’t wonder “why” like adults they only accept. Toddlers can be far more attuned to the preferences, beliefs and emotions of others, including adults. I suspect this is why your daughter was allowed to see them. We as adults sometimes lose sight of intuitive and metaphysical capabilities because we must see in order to believe.

You were probably right in telling her it was a dream but she will probably never forget it and always know what she saw. If children see a form or something that the adult doesn’t see they quickly learn to screen that out or hide it because that’s not normal in their parents’ environment. I’m sure you’ll come up with a safe plan for this though.

I’m also curious about part 2 of your encounters.

reply to post by Oannes
Thank you. Yes every little bit of information helps. I appreciated your interest and the info about the owls.
They were curious about the seeds. Thats for sure.

reply to post by BO XIAN
Wow! Thank you for posting in my thread. It means alot. I was out all day yesterday and last nite. I've got a lot a catching up to do. I'll be reading the rest of your post and all the others that follow and will reply to all individually. Give me a few minutes to catch up.
I also want to thank everyone for posting. It was more than I expected.
TXML