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Originally posted by Iason321
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Absolutely,
God will only manifest Himself in dire situations, to those who are TRULY in need of Him,
not just because some prideful person wants Him to prove his existence to them for no good reason,
plus think of it like this - even if Jesus appeared to most atheists in person, they'd lose there faith within an hour or two of him being gone - they'd explain it as delusions, hallucinations, etc.
Faith.
Gotta have faith.
Going to worship now!
"Let every thing that hath breath praise the LORD. Praise ye the LORD"
Amen
Ah, so you mean like the faith that my family and I had when my brother was on his death bed..and the doctor would ask if he could harvest his organs, and we told him no, that he was going to need them when god healed him? Or was that hope and wishing also?
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
That's not Biblical faith. That's the Hellenized version of 'hope" or "making a "wish". Sadly it may take you being on your deathbed to finally operate in Biblical faith. Fatih means you are trusting in what He has already said in His Word, and you're praying with His Words as a "confirmation number". Biblical faith is like when you make a reservation at a hotel 3 states over and you drive there, you have no doubt whatsoever that they have your room ready for you because they already gave you a "confirmation number" and you're acting on that.
Originally posted by Hydroman
Ah, so you mean like the faith that my family and I had when my brother was on his death bed..and the doctor would ask if he could harvest his organs, and we told him no, that he was going to need them when god healed him? Or was that hope and wishing also?
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
That's not Biblical faith. That's the Hellenized version of 'hope" or "making a "wish". Sadly it may take you being on your deathbed to finally operate in Biblical faith. Fatih means you are trusting in what He has already said in His Word, and you're praying with His Words as a "confirmation number". Biblical faith is like when you make a reservation at a hotel 3 states over and you drive there, you have no doubt whatsoever that they have your room ready for you because they already gave you a "confirmation number" and you're acting on that.
My family is non-denominational christian. They believe that the gifts of the holy spirit are active today.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
What was your faith based on? What was your family putting their trust in? I always say:
"You cannot throw faith into an empty vacuum called ignorance."
Meaning, what was the faith/complete trust you had without doubting based upon (foundation)? What was the "information" you had in your head that you were putting that trust/faith (confirmation number) upon with complete information (blueprint)?
Please tell, I can pinpoint why there was no healing if you tell me. Were any of you living in any type of unrepentant sin in any form? What was the foundation of your trust without doubting?
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Hydroman
I'm from the same type, those are called "Charismatic". And I don't do denominational Christianity. Okay, it's great they're not secessionists. I can't know for sure without revelation from God, i can seek an answer. And if you grew up in that type of church "Charismatic", you know full well there are people running around trying to act like called and ordained prophets. Was the guy who died saved?
Yeah, we called it charismatic. The guy that died was my brother, and yes he was "saved".
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
I'm from the same type, those are called "Charismatic". And I don't do denominational Christianity. Okay, it's great they're not secessionists. I can't know for sure without revelation from God, i can seek an answer. And if you grew up in that type of church "Charismatic", you know full well there are people running around trying to act like called and ordained prophets. Was the guy who died saved?