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Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by Starchild23
Originally posted by smithjustinb
All is consciousness. Consciousness is within. All is within.
All is not consciousness, because you can observe something that is not conscious through your own consciousness, and when you are not conscious, anything that is can observe you. And even if you were both unconscious, you would both exist, you just wouldn't be aware of it.
In fact, when you are asleep, you are often largely unaware of your own existence, but your consciousness is still there.
Hence, your thesis is largely invalid.
There isn't anything that isn't consciousness. If you are unconscious, you are still consciousness that will reawaken to itself. You aren't unconscious, you are unaware. Unaware of your self. Your self is consciousness and everything is that. All matter and all energy.
Originally posted by Starchild23
Yes, but do you know why? Can you tell me why all matter and all energy is consciousness?
Originally posted by Starchild23
Yes, but do you know why? Can you tell me why all matter and all energy is consciousness?
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by Starchild23
Yes, but do you know why? Can you tell me why all matter and all energy is consciousness?
Not only what I said in the above reply, but also:
Life forms emerge as reproductive. The very first life form that emerged emerged already equipped with the knowledge that it should reproduce. Think about that. Its as if it knew that it was something that was going to need to make copies of itself. Why? Because that is the nature of life. It is intelligent energy. It is always learning and always growing. So when it emerged, it was also already a part of that growing process. The universe as seemingly "inanimate" grew into animate forms. So how can something grow if it is not already intelligent energy? It can't. So the universe as an "inanimate" form must also be life itself.
Life can't come from something not alive. It doesn't happen that way and it never has. Life is a reproductive growing process and the big bang was that.
Originally posted by yourmaker
why does there always have to be a god? I never understand your reasoning behind this god thing.
Originally posted by Starchild23
Remember that the Bible contradicts itself at every turn.
Originally posted by Starchild23Essentially, it traps us into choosing what to believe
Originally posted by Starchild23...but then here's the question:
If we believe it, does that make it the truth? Or do we choose the self-imposed lie over truth?
Originally posted by Starchild23
Originally posted by Davian
In the gospel of Saint Luc it is said that the kingdom of God is within Man. Not one Man, or a group of Men, but all Men.
So you speak the truth OP. God is Within.
Remember that the Bible contradicts itself at every turn.
Essentially, it traps us into choosing what to believe...but then here's the question:
If we believe it, does that make it the truth? Or do we choose the self-imposed lie over truth?
Originally posted by SubPop79
I’ve been thinking a lot about how human beings perceive God. We tend to imagine God as something larger than ourselves. We think about Gob being outside of ourselves, as if we are contained within God. God created the universe, and since we are inside of the universe, the universe must be inside God.
What if we are looking for God in the wrong place? We spend, or at least I do, so much time looking at the stars trying to see the edge of the universe expecting to find God there. Perhaps God isn’t out there. Maybe God is inside of us? I feel that we spend too much time looking for God in the cosmos, that is, in things greater than us, but we don’t spend as much time pondering the fact that we too are the sum of many. Organs. Cells. Atoms. Quarks. Is not the infinitely small just as important as the infinitely big? Without the small, I say there is no large. Without atoms, there are no cells, and no organs and no organisms.
My point is this: Since everything grows and starts from something smaller than itself, the sperm / egg for example, shouldn’t we look for god within the material voids of ourselves, and not that which surrounds us such as the cosmos. I am in no way undermining the awesome sight of heavenly bodies, I just think that the world that is too small to be seen is just as important as the world too big and too far away to be seen, if not more important.
Is God outside or inside? For the record, I am not religious, but I do think this applies to anyone who considers the existence of anything that could be called in any light a “God.”
To quote the Bible, which is a book I have not read in the better part of decade and is also a book that I consider just as important as any other religious text, “He who does to the least of my brothers, does unto me.” Perhaps god is the smallest of all creation.
edit on 8-4-2012 by SubPop79 because: (no reason given)
Post response edit: Think of Derrida's Transcendental Signified.edit on 8-4-2012 by SubPop79 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Davian
Originally posted by Starchild23
Originally posted by Davian
In the gospel of Saint Luc it is said that the kingdom of God is within Man. Not one Man, or a group of Men, but all Men.
So you speak the truth OP. God is Within.
Remember that the Bible contradicts itself at every turn.
Essentially, it traps us into choosing what to believe...but then here's the question:
If we believe it, does that make it the truth? Or do we choose the self-imposed lie over truth?
I don't believe everything in the Bible, only some of it, the parts that 'make sense'. I view the Bible more as a guide anyway, than a fact-based true story. Of course there are the morals that I disagree with like 'Gay people go to Hell', or 'Abraham sacrifices his son to show loyalty to God' and other such nonsense.