They put me in jail for telling the TRUTH! Treason?

In other words, while a soldier in Afghanistan on duty, you found a frozen animal, and some strange lights and sounds. Then your boss got mad at you for not doing your job and reporting weird things, and your coworkers went crazy.

You do realize this is 2012 right? Not some land where people patrol using a horse and buggy right? So anything weird could be a new weapon that you have never seen before. And there are projects in most military circles that go beyond what you have been taught to believe.

Now maybe some Afghans were having a disco close to your base, knowing that their persecutors wouldn't dare come near. The frozen sheep was going to be dinner.

After the rest of your group went home sick, you remained, and stayed spaced out. No, I think you might have caught the mental problem too, but can't see it. At the moment I think it may have been aerosol '___'.

Some nuclear weapons (and this is only in conspiracy land, I have no solid evidence about it in any country because that would make me a spy), when they go bad, they give off funny colored lights. Spirals and beams of light, electricity. With this extreme malfunction -- or maybe it is working as the weapon it is intended to be -- with the light come sounds, as much as thunder accompanies lightning. They also tend to warp your mind. Think Philadelphia Experiment.

Now if it is a test run from some other group using military devices, which it could be, then than frozen sheep was a test subject in a failed teleportation experiment, if everything you have said is true. The animal was frozen because it may have been flash frozen in outer space on its path from origin to destination, or the operators didn't have the knowledge to keep a body at it's own temperature along the path. That means they are messing with high powered magnets, possibly also iced with liquid gasses to amplify the magnetic power. Maybe you got a delivery from CERN and didn't know it. Or the aliens just lost their dinner, and it was being kept cold by the vacuum of outer space. Maybe it was a present.

If it came from humans expect more than a sheep being teleported into your camp soon. Like, a surprise grenade without a pin. I think maybe your military's radar interfered with the transport. But for your complaint, you signed military papers to keep operations within the boundaries of your military and its hierarchy. You broke the same rules you signed. Life is unfair, more so when in a military.

I read this amazing.

Originally posted by Anim8tr
On that same day, later at night, we had a couple of weird calls and frequencies coming in on radio.
Phones were ringing and receiving strange messages as if someone recorded something, pitched it down, and replayed it backwards. Our radios also picked up a high pitched frequency that we couldn't decode. It sounded scary.

This is a signal from the water of space. It could be future, or backwards now. A few years from now there may be experiments with frozen sheep, and this was a failed one that went back in time to your time.

If your account is true, I have some to share about down-pitched backwards messages. When I lived in Arizona, I was in the big city and heard that. The best I could figure it could be is a shadow of tomorrow, if it is related to time-bending activity. Another thought was that it was subliminals piped out to the population all the time. It came from the direction of a police station with its tall antenna tower, and when a solar storm knocked out its function, the only thing I perceived was a tone like arc lighting of a jacob's ladder instead of the low backwards tones. That malfunction lasted about 2 days.

It doesn't help to color the sound of the frequency as "scary". The sound of a crazy cat lady talking to her pets is scary to me, so I can't relate. It was probably just squelching, or interference, or lack of fine tuning with the equipment. Because you can't describe squelching, it makes me think, is your story authentic, or ripped out of a magazine?

Future experimental broadband teleportation accident. That's my final theory. Those future people ought to know that teleportation from ground to ground needs a stable medium, not the air, but with their methods of frozen magnets, they may not be as future as I think. Those spectrum lights are potential holographic weapons when not applied properly. They can make you forget things, or remember things that never happened.

Originally posted by Anim8tr

Originally posted by flexy123

[...] was on a main road, is it possible for example that teh sheep fell from a passing truck? An overloaded carrier taking the sheep somewhere and it just fell from teh wagon as passing and rolled up against the fence? I know that slaughter houses sometimes send out full carcasses to other companies,

I want to give kudos to you for asking a good question, which, IMO, could explain that whole mystery.
Better asking a good question like this instead of instantly replying it must have been Aliens. Ironically, the "normal" explanation (even if far less "exciting")..is usually 99,99% the one which will turn out to be the right one. Also..this has nothing to do with wanting to be a skeptic at all costs, it is simply the truth.

Sorry to bust this theory but no, no main roads. The road I was driving the jeep around was practicly only for that purpose, as the road circles the entire base. Never saw a civilian car there.

I am surprised you are still posting. If your story was true, I would have expected "them" to pick you up by now, unless of course that "they" have gotten lax or aren't doing a very good job anymore. I hope I didn't make you more paranoid!

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if it's as extreme as you say, i would be a little wary of posting it here. let us hope you don't disappear. interesting story though.

Cool story and I soooo want to believe it! I really do! But unlike everyone else here, I don't, sorry. If they REALLY wanted to send out a message to others to not speak out, would they imprison you for a few months? It would seem more likely that you would just be killed! And anyway what do they do? Inform every new candidate about your story when they enlist?

I mean come on! It doesn't add up!

That's horrible!!

Lol, every time i hear the word "luftwaffe" i think of world war 2

Originally posted by flexy123
I think it's funny (and in a certain way sad)..how MANY people right here immediately jump onto conclusions involving Aliens. Typical ATS.

I mean, the story is weird enough without bringing Aliens into the game.

You do nothing else than speculate and literally "make up" something, instead of simply looking at the facts and then go from there. Wouldn't it be the smart thing to do, and then based on the evidence concluding more?

What is more likely? That the sheep was put there with some intention, or that the sheep appeared there with the help of some aliens?

I have to say i very much agree with the guy who said this might have been a test, that "simply" SOMEONE PUT the sheep there as part of some experiment. Unless you believe that sheep just "fall from the sky"..while this can happen i'd say the likelihood is about 0.000001%. and the likelihood that another human person just put the sheep there is 99,99999%.

Also..i want to point out that someone said "everyone became mentally ill"...which is not true. Read the story again. They were sent home "declared mentally ill".... this is a hell of a difference.

It's my personal opinion this was sort of a psychological test.

My only problem with your comment, is that it would be so much easier to devise a "TEST" that did not entail freezing a whole large animal, hauling it and the expenses of buying it. A pile of steaming intestines from a food animal laying next to the fence with just the useless head and hoofs, just some bizarre flashing lights outside the fence in the trees, so many many things easier to do. The test would also be for such a small number of people why the special effort for the guards and such left at the base?
If it were to simulate what people think of aliens it should have not been frozen but had a few things done, the tongue removed and such.

The fact that the sheep was rightoutside the fence to be viewed raises the propability of this being a psyops test for the troops stationed at this base. What are the odds of a sheep being seen close to the perimiter? what are the odds of a dead sheep being seen outside the perimiter? What are the odds of a frozen dead sheep being outside the perimiter?
even if aliens were involved you still have to ask yourself the above questions..which lead me to believe due to the overlooked propability factor, it is indeed a psyops test.

Anim8tr,
Great post my friend, thanks for sharing your story, and refusing not to remain silent. The whole sheep thing has me very puzzled. At first, I thought high altitude test of some kind, dropped the sheep from 85,000 feet up in the air, but that makes no sense whatsoever. Now when the story takes on the whole strange light phenomena, and with the military hush up, this wreaks of alien cover-up. Thank you for being brave, and sharing this type of story with your friends here on ATS.

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AFTER reading your completely one sided post, your version of events (which will be tainted) I strongly believe you DESERVED to go to jail.

you were in the army and therefore you should of checked with anyone in a superior position before running your mouth.

ALWAYS keep you mouth shut and only speak to those who are in command. PERIOD.

What you deem not national security is of no issure as you are hardly qualified to think for yourself on that matter.

In any situation where the barracks may of been compromised (by a frozen sheep obviously placed there, or by faulty comms) you only speak with superiors. END OF.

I feel NO sympathy towards you and your cry for attention. YOU were property of the Military at that moment and on duty when it happened.

And for you guys to think that someone was playing games with the comms. HOW niave, you should always act in a professional manner and fully check things out before writing them off as pranks.

YOU SHOULD OF BEEN JAILED FOR LONGER. I dont like your "story" or your attitude to the whole thing.

Originally posted by Foxy1
The fact that the sheep was rightoutside the fence to be viewed raises the propability of this being a psyops test for the troops stationed at this base. What are the odds of a sheep being seen close to the perimiter? what are the odds of a dead sheep being seen outside the perimiter? What are the odds of a frozen dead sheep being outside the perimiter?
even if aliens were involved you still have to ask yourself the above questions..which lead me to believe due to the overlooked propability factor, it is indeed a psyops test.

it would have to be seen before it thawed or it would be just a dead sheep.

Originally posted by Six6Six
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AFTER reading your completely one sided post, your version of events (which will be tainted) I strongly believe you DESERVED to go to jail.

you were in the army and therefore you should of checked with anyone in a superior position before running your mouth.

ALWAYS keep you mouth shut and only speak to those who are in command. PERIOD.

What you deem not national security is of no issure as you are hardly qualified to think for yourself on that matter.

In any situation where the barracks may of been compromised (by a frozen sheep obviously placed there, or by faulty comms) you only speak with superiors. END OF.

I feel NO sympathy towards you and your cry for attention. YOU were property of the Military at that moment and on duty when it happened.

And for you guys to think that someone was playing games with the comms. HOW niave, you should always act in a professional manner and fully check things out before writing them off as pranks.

YOU SHOULD OF BEEN JAILED FOR LONGER. I dont like your "story" or your attitude to the whole thing.

WOW...
Guys play pranks even in war zones. Military personal are people they are not at every moment an object. Many are very young. So you think every day they should be like the stick guys guarding the Buckingham Palace.
Dead animal outside fence = compromised base so go to jail...WOW.

A lot of people would be surprised at the stuff still considered classified or confidential. Some things date back to WWII and are long outdated and aren't of much use, but bureaucracy hasn't caught up. If you're under military contract and with a clearance of some sort, odds are you can see jail time if you talk about them.

The point is, military law is different than civilian law. So I can see where you'd get into trouble over the stupidest things. Usually standing orders or things dealing with clearance contracts are what will bite you in the butt.

So if you were doing security detail and under orders to report unusual events to the OOD (or whatever eqivalent) and didn't, that's probably a violation of a lawful order. Talking about certain things involving the base perimiter might be a violation of your clearance depending on the circumstances. Considering the Afghanistan part, it's probably during NATO ops in the "War on Terror" and early into the 2000's some commands were really up-tight about stuff.

Whether or not it's actual UFO stuff who knows, insufficient evidence. Flying lights, weird noises on the comm radios, and frozen animals are something that can be done by men. Such things might have been part of a test of base security (not all security drills are announced), to see how well it gets documented in the watch logs and whether perpetrators get caught. (The weirder things the penetration team can do or leave behind, the better. If they destract security with stupid stuff, take pics or mark things, and get away - it makes them look good.) And then they probably also check how much news of that gets off base. The idea being that such leaks may let the enemy know how far they can get away with some things, also it may be considered bad PR. The guys saying the psy-ops angle have a good point.

From what was mentioned here, it seems as if you were in the wrong place at the wrong time - and were low level enough in rank to be made the whipping boy. Likely you're discharged already, and events are long past (timeliness is usually the biggest factor in military security), so you're probably not going to get any worse than you had already. Sucks to go through, but consider it over and done with. Besides credibility is limited on the internet anyways, without other strong evidence such info isn't much threat.

I'm not one to chastise much though, but I could see how and why the military occasionally does this to people. It was an interesting yarn and #### happens. I found it entertaining.

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Hi Jägermeister,

I've just read your thread here and I'd like to calm you down a bit. Tell you a bit of my story, and of what I believe how our country handles this phenomenon. No I am not in the BW and never was.

Would be great to read from you. I especially registered for this thread.


Gruß,
chaotic

WOW... Guys play pranks even in war zones. Military personal are people they are not at every moment an object. Many are very young. So you think every day they should be like the stick guys guarding the Buckingham Palace. Dead animal outside fence = compromised base so go to jail...WOW.

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He was actively on Duty THAT night so YES he should be professional at all times. This guy deserved what he got and should of got more. I do NOT have any sympathy for his hugely one sided BS story or his pain. Boo hoo!!

wake up people, crazy things happening in 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I have to be careful, because my immediate answer to your post surely would earn me a "manners & decorum" or something worse.

So I'll try to be as diplomatic as I can be, and remind you, that, looking back on history, people "on duty" have done the most cruellest things this earth has ever seen.

Examples? German soldiers "on duty" during WW2 (nearly everywhere in europe). American soldiers "on duty" during WW2 (in Germany - "Hamburg" and "Dresden", in Japan - "Hiroshima", "Nagasaki", "Tokio"), the wars in Vietnam ("May Lay"), Iraq and Afghanistan (for the beginning, just read about the stuff Bradley Manning whistleblowed) ...

It was an american who once said: "Always question authority, think for yourself!" - keeping in mind all the crimes that have been done "on duty", he's all too right in demanding this.

It think it's very remarkable, that you say, as a US-soldier you are a property of the military. Well, here in Germany, soldiers are seen as "citizens in uniform". As a lesson of the terrible crimes of the Nazi regime that once ruled this country, this idea was wisely implemented in our constitution - meaning, that although german soldiers have to obey to the chain of command, in the first place they have to obey to their conscience.

The fact, that there are US-soldiers like Bradley Manning, shows me, that also in the US-Army there are people that consider themselves as "citizens in uniform" with a conscience, and not just as a useful tool for questionable geopolitic and economic interests of those who you can call as you wish.

to the OP: First, thanks for sharing your story with us ATSers! I believe in the authenticity of your story, and I doubt that it was just a psy-op. If it was just a psy-op, they wouldn't have put you in jail. It seem's much more if they've been caught with their pants down, and did overreact to shut you down, not considering, that such an action would shed even more light on the incident, would raise more questions.

It seems as if the commanders of your base have been totally unprepared to deal with such a situation. And it's an interesting detail, that later you've been approached by someone of the german airforce. Probably "the Luftwaffe" knows how to deal with such incidents...

I wish you and your family all the best for the future, be cautious, and keep your eyes always up to the skies!

My first concern would have been there being an I.E.D. in the sheep and I would've had bomb patrol come and check it out. I believe your story and think it possible that it could've been 'contact'. Sorry about what you went through.