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Originally posted by CharterZZ
Well i dont have much to say but i can guarantee the same thing happens next year.
This stuff happens every year, do you wanna know why?
Well the world is a big place and alot of 'stuff' happens, so its always easy to see similarites no matter where you look.
People find these similarties and make a big deal about it, thats life and it will never change.
There is alot of things to worry about, but idiots making conculsions over silly things is nothing to worry about.edit on 6-3-2012 by CharterZZ because: (no reason given)
Just my opinion btw and im always open to new theorys and opinions.edit on 6-3-2012 by CharterZZ because: just because
"Now, I don't know about you, but I don't think the primary purpose of your life, of my life and the entirety of the human race's is just to blindingly consume to support a failing economy and a faulty system. Forever and ever until we run out of every resource and fall to the result to blowing each other up to ensure our own survival. I don't think we're supposed to sit by either while we continue to use a long outdated system that produces war, poverty, collusion , corruption , ruins our environment and threatens every aspect of our health and does nothing but divide and segregate us. I don't think how much military equipment we are selling to other countries, how many hydrocarbons we're burning , how much money is being printed and exchanged, is a good measure of how healthy our society is but I do think I can speak for everyone when I say, we're sick of this #."
Francisco Ribera
Apocalypse commentary
In order to remove the papacy of the Catholic Church from consideration as the Antichrist (as an act of countering the Protestant Reformation), Ribera began writing a lengthy (500 page) commentary in 1585 on the Book of Revelation (Apocalypse) titled In Sacrum Beati Ioannis Apostoli, & Evangelistiae Apocalypsin Commentarij, proposing that the first few chapters of the Apocalypse apply to ancient pagan Rome, and the rest he limited to a yet future period of 3½ literal years, immediately prior to the second coming. During that time, the Roman Catholic Church would have fallen away from the pope into apostasy because of the Reformation cry stating that "the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." (Martin Luther, Aug. 18, 1520). Then, he proposed, the Antichrist, a single individual, would:
Persecute and blaspheme the saints of God.
Rebuild the temple in Jerusalem.
Abolish the Christian religion.
Deny Jesus Christ.
Be received by the Jews.
Pretend to be God.
Kill the two witnesses of God.
Conquer the world.
To accomplish this, Ribera proposed that the 1260 days and 42 months and 3½ times of prophecy were not 1260 years as based on the year-day principle (Numbers 14:34 and Ezekiel 4:6), but a literal 3½ years, hence preventing the arrival of the deduction of (i) the 1260 years to be related to the Dark Ages (according to the Historicism (Christianity) interpretation of eschatology from 538 A.D. when the papal power was fully established in Rome until its political blow in 1798 A.D., when Louis-Alexandre Berthier the general of Napoleon captured pope Pius VI as prisoner to Valence, France) and (ii) the Antichrist to be related to papacy.
Originally posted by defcon5
prophetic language of Daniel, which equates “Beasts” with world powers, not with people.
So when following the proper interpretation of revelation, we are left with the First Beast being the Roman Empire/Church which had ingested all the pagan beliefs of the previous “kingdoms”, followed by the US, which is the last “Beast”.
This last Beast (The US) would have the appearance of being Christian (of a lamb), but would act as a dragon. It would be based on the Roman system which came before. It would enforce the “mark” throughout the world, (which we have been working on since 911 with the “your with us or against us” policy on our allies), by making a worldwide national ID system under various names. Part of which is that you give up your freedom for safety provided by your government, rather then placing faith in your God. It would call down fire from the heaven (first nuclear bombs), and the whole world would wonder after us (which has happened up until recently, with people trying to get into the US because of our standard of living).
After all the US represents everything that God is against. The most prolific bastion of worldliness on the planet in history. A place where man looks to have his worldly needs fulfilled by man, media, technology, science, and government, rather then looking to God.As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.
Originally posted by Jameela
Isn't that crazy, this is almost what Shia believe!
Originally posted by Jameela
Yah but Shia also believe in law, the prohibitions on things like pork and adultery and stuff is still there.
Originally posted by Jameela
Christians have this free for all type religion, the kind they think it doesn't matter what they do, whereas shia are both spiritual and law abiding equally.
Originally posted by Jameela
We do agree with you that the books were changed though to hide truths.
Scholars contend that Irenaeus quotes from 21 of the 27 New Testament Texts:
Originally posted by Jameela
No not even close, I got wondering for a minute that maybe some Christians were similar to Shia, but I suppose not at all.
Originally posted by Jameela
To Shia, God made laws, because He created us, and knows us intimately, He knows what is good for us and what is bad for us, in this way its similar to an adult knowing what is best for a child, but on a much greater scale than even this.
Galatians 2:14-19
14 When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas in front of them all, “You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then, that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs?
15 “We who are Jews by birth and not sinful Gentiles 16 know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in[d] Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified.
17 “But if, in seeking to be justified in Christ, we Jews find ourselves also among the sinners, doesn’t that mean that Christ promotes sin? Absolutely not! 18 If I rebuild what I destroyed, then I really would be a lawbreaker.
19 “For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God. 20 I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21 I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”
Originally posted by Jameela
This is why we believe God made laws. Not because of any covenant with Israel. God created all the sons of Adam (as) not only Jews.
Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10
Romans 3:28–30
28 For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. 29 Or is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, 30 since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one.
"You don't see America as a world power in the Book of Revelation!"
"Again, he says that America is not a leading power in the End Time Prophecy!"