Who is trying to shut down Los Angeles porn?

Heard on radio... Simi Valley is worried they will move here, next exit on the freeway.

So, they are making a similar law. In addition (couldn't make this stuff up) it is a requirement that the unedited porn be submitted to the police to be screened to make sure they are in compliance. There will be a person, at the police station whose job it is to watch and report...

Source here

Officials in Simi Valley, California fear a new law in neighboring Los Angeles could send porn production their way, so they are pushing for a similar measure to keep the industry out.

A law goes into effect in Los Angeles on Monday requiring performers to wear condoms. Porn producers fought the law and are threatening to move out of the San Fernando Valley, the capital of adult productions.

Simi Valley is just over the hill, and lawmakers there don't want the multi-billion dollar industry in their sleepy neighborhood.

"The bottom line is we don't want to be known as the porn capital of the world," Mayor Bob Huber told the Los Angeles Times.

So he is pushing for a similar condom law. The Simi Valley law would go even further than Los Angeles' -- it would require producers to hire on-set medical officials to ensure condom use, as well as send unedited footage to police so civilian employees could screen it for possible violations.

"I am amused at the thought of Simi Valley hiring people to sit around and view porn on taxpayer dollars," said Diane Duke, executive director of the Free Speech Coalition, a porn industry trade association. "I wonder what the training for that would look like."

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Dude, what a backward country we live in...

Originally posted by XXX777
I read some news today about a new law that requires condom use in porn films.

What sense does that make? Who has the political and legislative power to require something like this, and why do they want to drive the porn industry away?

It seems to me like porn is a rather non-location specific film type. Porn made at a house with a swimming pool in Los Angeles will probably be replaced by porn made at a house with a swimming pool in Texas or Florida. Why would Los Angeles want to push this business away?

Good.

Maybe there'd be less HIV in the industry.

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Triple X & 7,

While I'm unfortunately unable to provide you the source (thank you work filters), the original origin of these new rules came from female performers being infected with STDs due to internal mishaps and mishandling of the information of who or what has an STD.

It was certainly from a small number of women over the years that caused the City Council of LA to be concerned because these women had assumed these men did not have any STDs, went bareback, and discovered they have a deliberating disease to live with for the rest of their lives. The general porn industry (not all) has a particular company that keeps track of STD information and provides that to the Agents for the industries workers. They didn't provide the most accurate information and women who were clean ended up getting dirty due to poor policies.

So it wasn't necessarily due to safety, as the idea of doing something simply for the sake of safety is always born out of actual circumstances, not perceived ones (deny ignorance, anyone?). Miscommunication and poor communicaiton and record keeping caused the initial ordinance to be come law.

The industry had plenty of opportunities to fix it, but they choose to continue doing what they always have. It's a damn shame, in my opinion. The law and the actions that caused it to be born in the first place. All preventable.

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Wow, I want that job

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I think they post at Monster.

You should go there right away and set up a job alert with those search terms.

K

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Who freaking cares?

They should be using condoms.

You must watch a ton of porn.

There are real people left on this earth yakno.

Yeah I saw this in the LA times awhile back. Moorpark (county just north of LA) already basically rejected the industry. This is weird to me because I always heard porn was from some central Cali county, forget the name but yeah.

I could care less about the whole issue though. But if they start passing into the lives of ordinary Americans then thats when Ill start to yell.

Good input from everybody. Good stuff.

But don't lose sight of the real issue here. The lawmakers are making a ''feel good'' law that is going to force out smalltime porn producers and yet allow big money LA studios to keep on pumping it out bareback as usual. Nobody wins the ''health'' issue. Corruption keeps on trucking. It really seems to me that this whole thing is a nonsense law that is going to move the money around somewhere behind the scenes.

www.thedailybeast.com...
this law has been due to com in for a wile there was a bunch of hiv getting spread and reguar screening oviusly did not help ,so they have to sock it befor they rock it

or i could be Iran

The industry screens for STDs religiously.
You are actually much safer being with a porn star than being with some random person you met at a nightclub or supermarket.

This is actually a very relevant ATS subject matter..not the specifics, but the fact that a government is trying to tell a industry how to make something, that doesn't increase any worker safety at all, and only is a measure to hurt profit potential.

I wouldn't be opposed to some flash warning saying "please practice safe sex, all actors are screened for STDs before preformance, etc"..before a film. but telling them how to run their business right down to the specifics for personal moral choice is frankly far, far outside any authority and not only hobbles the private industry specifically, but also interferes with a persons right to liberty and happiness.

Of course they start with the sex industry...only pervs defend that and them, right?
Wrong..they are setting precidence. Allow this to go through and watch it infest tons of other industries the holier than thou community wants to destroy due to moral objection.

Gawddammit, get out of my bedroom!!!

Originally posted by dannotz
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Who freaking cares?

They should be using condoms.

You must watch a ton of porn.

There are real people left on this earth yakno.

Agreed
Incidentally, I think everyone whom has sex needs to also use a condom or go to jail, unless cleared by the department of bedland security for purposes of procreation. You know...aids and stuff...

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Who cares a out la porn? Like most productions, they will just move to Canada anyway!


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Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
No, they censor such things as they are unhealthy for the human mind.

As I said earlier, it is baby steps towards healthier public-media.

That was perhaps the most disturbing thing I have read on ATS in awhile..and more disturbing was the following sentence.

Here are things I personally find unhealthy for public consumption:
Violence in all forms (even arguments)
Political Dissidence
Too much knowledge (ignorance is bliss)
Eating salty or fattening foods
Cursing
Slang
Rebellious mindsets
Questioning Authority
Neoconservatism
Pre marital sex
non-procreative sex
clothes revealing too much

I can actually give long and fairly intelligent discussions about each thing I just posted and have qualified professionals explain the dangers of this.

Now, tell me
Should the loving government ban all of this stuff? After all, the idea is to make a healthy media of joy and love and morals....

I want my warts in a society that has liberties...I don't want to live in a mental prison made of rainbows and sugar.
I fear for people of your mindset ever attaining political power to smash down the iron fist of morality on the free people

Oh, and suddenly I am now wondering if indeed AIDS was a government created tool to assume control over our media piece by piece.

This (as I mentioned) sets precedence for government to make moral legislation, giving the cover of disease control (it does not...not even remotely).
This is not a requirement of them having snap STD tests before production...this is a very invasive method to control the media overall.

It is having my mind spinning actually...protect the unsavory and unethical parts of society, or watch the entire society crumble once you ignore their rights being taken away...protect them far more than any other group, as they make up the barrier between you and "them"

I know I am not articulating the discussion well enough, but what is truely frustrating is people on ATS of all places either not caring about this clear infiltration towards our personal liberties..or even cheering them on.

I wonder if I woke up in the wrong dimension today.

Originally posted by earthdude

Originally posted by TFCJay
With all the serious STD's why oppose manatory condom use? Better yet, why keep making more porn?

WIth all the inhaled viruses going around why oppose manditory face mask use in all public places? It is a matter of freedom I guess. Too many laws.

Face mask? No, thats not always effective
There needs to be curfews, and a public distance law. Nobody should get with 10 feet of an individual in a public place.

It will increase our public safety after all.

I am for it, because it sounds like it would be good for erm..stuff.


-bangs head against keyboard-
Thanks for this post btw...good to know not everyone is unthinking. But, its scary that there is even a single voice backing or not caring about this attempt.

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Porn is dangerous period. Outlaw it and be done with those freakshows. That sh*t ruins more lives and marriages than it helps. Damns more souls too.

Cheeseburgers are also dangerous
and short skirts
and condoms (as they promote non-procreative pre-marital sex)
etc etc

Outlaw all things dangerous or may cause someone somewhere some grief!

I heard this question discussed on the radio in Toronto in a mini-debate between Ron Jeremy, paragon of all things chubby and phallic in the porn industry, and a local journalist, Susan G. Cole of Now magazine. Apparently the two of them have put on a series of debates in different venues on issues in the porn industry, discussing this among other things.

Ron Jeremy made the point that whatever the motivation for the decision in LA, and actor safety is most likely the motive, the net effect of the requirement for condom use in porn shoots in LA will be to drive the business out of the city. The porn industry will simply go elsewhere. I believe he said that this process has already started.

The reasons for this are strictly economic. If the industry in LA must use condoms, they will not be able to complete with the industry from jurisdictions that do not require condom use.

Thus spake The Hedgehog.

Originally posted by SaturnFX
The industry screens for STDs religiously.
You are actually much safer being with a porn star than being with some random person you met at a nightclub or supermarket.

This is actually a very relevant ATS subject matter..not the specifics, but the fact that a government is trying to tell a industry how to make something, that doesn't increase any worker safety at all, and only is a measure to hurt profit potential.

I wouldn't be opposed to some flash warning saying "please practice safe sex, all actors are screened for STDs before preformance, etc"..before a film. but telling them how to run their business right down to the specifics for personal moral choice is frankly far, far outside any authority and not only hobbles the private industry specifically, but also interferes with a persons right to liberty and happiness.

Of course they start with the sex industry...only pervs defend that and them, right?
Wrong..they are setting precidence. Allow this to go through and watch it infest tons of other industries the holier than thou community wants to destroy due to moral objection.

Gawddammit, get out of my bedroom!!!

Good post. I couldn't agree with you more. This is a whole lot of nanny-state BS. The outcome? The thousands of people employed by these companies (not just performers, but behind-the-scenes crew, catering, marketing, web design, product assembly and distribution, etc.) will be out of jobs. The industry itself will never go away, it will just move to a more hospitable location. Once again, regulations outside of the realm of government stagnates business and causes further unemployment.

And even if you non-porn folks sit around and wonder "good riddence... what's porn ever done for me?" Remember that thought when you enjoy home video and high-speed, graphics based internet content. Porn was the trailblazer, the innovator, and the mass-market appeal to get all these things in place. Porn launched VCRs, killed Beta, launched video rental, launched video sales, killed HD DVD, launched photos and video, file sharing, streaming, video-enabled smart phones, etc.

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Don't forget bungee jumping. I think I made a thread about that...

Oh, yup, here it is

ATS thread bungee cord breaks above croc infested waters