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Originally posted by onlytruthwillsetyoufree
Tesla coils are transformers they don't produce energy.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by InfoKartel
I give up... Every headline in every direction is saying the same thing and almost using the same words for describing the very likely outbreak of hostilities any time now. Israel is apparently coming here for direct support in a military strike on Iran while Obama is all but begging Israel NOT to start the next regional war.
Yet.... No, war isn't close to breaking out? Hmm... We don't even touch Syria, and I'll bet Assad would take serious issue with that whole idea of peace in his time, and war being a distant possibility. Russia isn't upgrading their search radars in Syria to aid Iran with Early Warning of impending military action just for the heck of it.
So.. heck... I tried to sound some notes of logic here. What amazes me is how many times I've been called the War Monger because I don't lean so far left I fall over. Yet..I'm the one here, in this example, hoping for peace and stability and all but being called a naive fool for even thinking in that direction.
No No... Of course though.... Revolt, Insurrection and general civil unrest world wide is far better than peace. Yes, to those already at the bottom looking up and hopeless in their mind, it is better. To the VAST MAJORITY of the population who DO have kids to raise and bills to pay just like we always do, war and civil unrest is something to avoid, not celebrate. Collapse is a calamity, not a day for partying. Only those with nothing left to lose could see it as a good thing.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by knoledgeispower
Thanks for taking the time and a well balanced reply. I've never felt we should do nothing and the world we find around us is light years from anything we should consider acceptable and alright to live with. I just disagree with the method. Very strongly, in fact.
Some want to push revolt..or outright insurrection. Others...simply want to see the whole system pushed into total collapse by deliberate manipulation and overloading. Either way solves nothing but turns a peaceful bucket of bad problems into a bloodbath of bad problems. No one has yet explained just how they'd see this going from the open chaos any such approach leads to, on into a system of order and that is capable of handling the governing of 100's of millions of very different people?
Collapse may come..in fact, economically, I can't see how it doesn't. I'm just not rooting for it here and I sure don't want to see it pushed any further in NEW nations until the current ones that are still in various states of Anarchy find some balance and peace themselves. Egypt, Libya, Iraq, Afghan, Yemen, Somalia...and I could go on with more.
India is..at the moment...as real pillar of stability in a region of total chaos for leadership and long term peace. I hope they remain stable. Someone has to be around to help recover when this has all run it's course and the shooting ends. There will be millions upon millions who may desperately need help that only nations at the level of India are capable of providing.....unless they are a victim themselves. Then who IS left to help?
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by knoledgeispower
Thanks for taking the time and a well balanced reply. I've never felt we should do nothing and the world we find around us is light years from anything we should consider acceptable and alright to live with. I just disagree with the method. Very strongly, in fact.
We seem to be hitting a brick wall with your beliefs, what do you envision being the solution to all this mess?
Some want to push revolt..or outright insurrection. Others...simply want to see the whole system pushed into total collapse by deliberate manipulation and overloading. Either way solves nothing but turns a peaceful bucket of bad problems into a bloodbath of bad problems. No one has yet explained just how they'd see this going from the open chaos any such approach leads to, on into a system of order and that is capable of handling the governing of 100's of millions of very different people?
I am just a meteorological vessel about to spilleth over, filled with righteous rain of the coming storm...
Look, metaphors aside something is coming, it is inevitable that a massive change in the way our future will be as a human species. A reset but to reboot as what? Cronyism v2.0? Shut up and pay taxes, consume to fill the void in your heart, take pills that treat the symptoms and not the disease, watch shows of famous people that are famous because they are rich and get that rubbed all over your children's morals, etc?
What bloodbath are you talking about? What part of a complete global disbelief in financial, political/propaganda and military systems which we paid for by the population to make life more bearable? Their contract in providing these services to we the people has been annulled, due to the apparent incompetence that is rampant.
Collapse may come..in fact, economically, I can't see how it doesn't. I'm just not rooting for it here and I sure don't want to see it pushed any further in NEW nations until the current ones that are still in various states of Anarchy find some balance and peace themselves. Egypt, Libya, Iraq, Afghan, Yemen, Somalia...and I could go on with more.
I don't understand what you mean by new nations, perhaps you will explain if you are an American what sort of 1984 double-speak language you are using. It was designed by the elite so that if it collapses it collapses world wide, I think its called Globalization.
India is..at the moment...as real pillar of stability in a region of total chaos for leadership and long term peace. I hope they remain stable. Someone has to be around to help recover when this has all run it's course and the shooting ends. There will be millions upon millions who may desperately need help that only nations at the level of India are capable of providing.....unless they are a victim themselves. Then who IS left to help?
Citizens of a country may clan together and run amuck fighting but I don't see them waging thermonuclear war with a bunch of rifles. It's the political and military leaders who will press the kill switch, so if they cause they break it they bought it? Do you understand the concept?
Originally posted by onlytruthwillsetyoufree
reply to post by knoledgeispower
Well if you knew what you were talking about you would know that the towers that were built were a gimmick for the electrical companies to make money. The devices he designed were personal devices that you could put in you're home and power it without any towers or external sources. As soon as the big time electrical companies found out they weren't going to make money off of it, and that he wouldn't go for their scheme they shut him down.