AP Source: Isreal Will NOT warn US of Imminent Strikes on Iran

Washington Post

WASHINGTON — Israeli officials say they won’t warn the U.S. if they decide to launch a pre-emptive strike against Iranian nuclear facilities, according to one U.S. intelligence official familiar with the discussions. The pronouncement, delivered in a series of private, top-level conversations, sets a tense tone ahead of meetings in the coming days at the White House and Capitol Hill.

Israeli officials said that if they eventually decide a strike is necessary, they would keep the Americans in the dark to decrease the likelihood that the U.S. would be held responsible for failing to stop Israel’s potential attack. The U.S. has been working with the Israelis for months to persuade them that an attack would be only a temporary setback to Iran’s nuclear program.

OIC, so the public false facade is already up.

I mean, be serious folks, how's Israel going to pull that off, undetected? If the Russians don't call Obama the second they see it coming, the Chinese probably will. And that's assuming the US doesn't detect it too. From Iraq or any other number of places.

The public perception mind game being played here.

Israel already trying to make it seem like the US wouldn't be involved, or could be held responsible cause they supposedly didn't know. Yeah right.

It almost seems like the US is distancing itself from Israel. Who could blame them? With Russia saying they don't support an attack on Iran, this isn't such an easy target for them anymore.

I agree. Any attack by Israel will be detected by the major world powers almost immediately. We share air information with the Saudis and our officers are in the Gulf. Any large contingent of planes will be instantly detected but most likely not interfered with.

Israel is aware of the limits of their own airpower and how much damage they can inflict. If they decide to deliver a knockout punch to Iran they can do it and we cannot stop them. It would be done with a declaration of war followed by an immediate attack with stealth cruise missiles armed with nuclear warheads. Millions will die but it will have the effect Israel wishes and will completely knock out Iran's ability to wage war against anybody. My best,

Trust me they will know..
I do not believe
they need to let US know
anyways. When they get
ready to do what has to be done
it needs to be kept as quiet
as possible.. Most importantly
I do not think they are going to
announce publicly and let us know
when it will happen.
Is this important news? Somewhat,
this needs to get done and over with.
The real news will be when the nuclear facilities
are taken out.

reply to post by TrueAmerican


Will these imminent strikes be blatant or will they use Mossad to secretly attack Iran? Regardless someone is going to know what is going on. If any attacks happen to Iran we will already know who to point the fingers at.

The US is trying to show it is not a part of the agenda

They gave up Iraq leaving a direct line for Israel to fly and therefore leaving the US uninvolved.
The pretend to offer Iran an option to avoid conflict, the whole show is to distance the US from Israel

The US can then claim to be the victim when Iran retaliates and takes out a carrier (which is being put into position to be the sacrificial lamb).
The whole United states will then back military action against the Iranian agressors.

Of course China and Russia know the game plan and will bide their time and wait, far easier for them to strike once the US and allies are involved in a long drawn out conflict.

Originally posted by airforce47
If they decide to deliver a knockout punch to Iran they can do it and we cannot stop them. It would be done with a declaration of war followed by an immediate attack with stealth cruise missiles armed with nuclear warheads. Millions will die but it will have the effect Israel wishes and will completely knock out Iran's ability to wage war against anybody. My best,

Oh, so Israel has stealth cruise missiles armed with nuclear warheads? Well! That's nice. Glad to know that. Thanks. I'll be sure and call the IAEA. I don't know what FOR, but heck, a phone call never hurt... Also, would you mind informing the CIA of that?

links or it never happened.

Yeah, right. Israel won't have the capacity to wage any more after that either, cause if you think Russia's going to stand idly by and do nothing after witnessing their huge investment there and millions of people, including many of their own scientists, go up in a mushroom cloud, you got another thing coming. And so will we, probably.

Is this news important? Hell yeah this news is important, because when Iran, already threatening to attack preemptively, realizes that Israel has publicly disconnected from the US on this issue, there is only one conclusion to be had. That the saner minds of the US military who have been keeping the lid on this thing are now out of the loop. Israel now becomes a lone wolf, hungry and ready to raid the hen house. Sanity be damned. Kill Iran at all costs.

That's probably in retrospect the stupidest thing Israel can do at this point. The Iranians are not dumb. While the US may be an enemy, at least they can bank on, to some degree anyway, that a military decision to attack Iran, even if no war is declared and it is limited strikes, would be based on irrefutable evidence at this point. Cause if this is truly Iraq all over again, we would already been and done it. Cause otherwise, why would so many troops have been brought back? What. They are going to attack Iran with mercenaries now? It just doesn't make sense.

Israel, you better get your ass back on the bandwagon here. Cause as nasty as it is, it's still not as bad as you presenting yourself as a lone wolf. THAT is just asking for it, imo. Might as well declare war. I think they just did, unless another position emerges from the meeting. So let's wait and see.

Yeah considering all the radars in the area and the number of planes Israel will have to use to strike Iran... there's no way in hell the US will be able to say ``we didn't see it coming``...

Israel already trying to make it seem like the US wouldn't be involved, or could be held responsible cause they supposedly didn't know. Yeah right.

Totally ridiculous indeed.

The US is trying to show it is not a part of the agenda

Yeah and who's gonna believe that? Children in kindergarten? Because I don't see anyone else buying this.

reply to post by airforce47

It would be done with a declaration of war followed by an immediate attack with stealth cruise missiles armed with nuclear warheads. Millions will die but it will have the effect Israel wishes and will completely knock out Iran's ability to wage war against anybody. My best,

Yeah let's kill millions of people over nothing, that'll solve things...

If anyone nukes Iran, they need to be nuked back.

Washington nukes Iran? One nuke heading to Washington DC.

Israel nukes Iran? One nuke heading to Tel-Aviv.

Using nukes in a first strike against anyone should be ground for retaliation by everyone else against said attacker.

I think its more to the point of NOT warning the Obama administration,then NOT warning the US.

Either way,it puts US troops in the area,under possible attack. Not good.

reply to post by TrueAmerican


Well , if its going to go down, then this is best for us, the US.

A unprovoked attack by Israel will be a declaration of war against Iran, and when Iran retaliates and Wipes Israel off the map, it will fit into the new Breaking Bad season, so I'll be ok with that.

Just leave the US out of this.

reply to post by TrueAmerican


Let's consider a few key points here:

1. Israel can strike Iranian sites with two aircraft types both of which need refueling from the air along the way. Jettisoning aircraft might be an option. Hey if they believe they might be destroyed by a few nukes would getting a dozen airman back matter.

2. Israel has the US by the balls. Have you seen your congress lately? Wont even mention military ranks.

3. If I want to survive a walk down a dangerous alley (let's face it this area is the dogs balls) am I better of keeping to myself and not causing trouble OR should I threaten every dodgy character along the way?

4. There is absolutley no threat besides a really lame dirty bomb which they and just about anyone could perform already, including some farmer in the NT, Australia. Seen the soil there these past few million years?

5. The threat is actually Iran having a #load of power to bring them out of the duldrums whilst exporting energy. IE. they don't want Iran being an economic force in 20-50 years from now. That actually would be a threat.

6. Their messiah will save them anyway - oh hang on we need the battle of armageddon

Originally posted by Tw0Sides
reply to post by TrueAmerican

 

Well , if its going to go down, then this is best for us, the US.

A unprovoked attack by Israel will be a declaration of war against Iran, and when Iran retaliates and Wipes Israel off the map, it will fit into the new Breaking Bad season, so I'll be ok with that.

Just leave the US out of this.

Nope was it a declaration of war against Iraq in the 80's or more recently '07 against Syria. How this works is simple, they strike with full US knowledge. The US then pick up the phone and says 'uhm that sucks sorry we didn't know but let's stop now. if you strike back we'll pummel you.'

Originally posted by thedrunkhacker

Nope was it a declaration of war against Iraq in the 80's or more recently '07 against Syria.

I understand what you are saying, but this is a totally different scenario.

This will not be jets flying over dropping bombs and making it back for tea.
First off, there are maybe 15 targets, most in very deep underground bunkers, spread out all over the country.
Iran is expecting the attack...... and will be ready with SAMs.... and there will be an almost immediate response from Iran.