Vehicle energy

reply to post by Tayesin


I suppose if you don't mind your Tesla car turning into a brick. Of course, it only costs $30-40,000 to replace the battery system.

That is of course if your car was delivered at all. Recommend veiwing.

reply to post by boncho


Thanks for the links, will go see.

At least they are out there trying to make change happen. Perhaps if people got behind them they could refine and improve the technologies ?

I wonder how many new car makers don't have issues in early models. I think most car makers have a lot of issues.. Toyota most recently with massive recalls.

Man, if this company was in my country.. I'd be behind them 120%. Hmmm, jobs, foot in the door for large scale production as petrol cars go into major demise, even more jobs and some revitalising of local areas.

Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by Tayesin

 

I suppose if you don't mind your Tesla car turning into a brick. Of course, it only costs $30-40,000 to replace the battery system.

That is of course if your car was delivered at all. Recommend veiwing.

not only that, manufaturing and disposing of 8000+ li ion batteries per car would definitely be healthy for the environment.

I think the reason for the train getting such good mpg is that they are on rails.

Steel tracks steel wheels equals much less rolling resistance.

Also not alot of stop and go stuff for the train to go thru once they are rolling the want to keep them that way.

No way to compare the train to the car because the usage is so much different.

I do have to agree that cars should be way more advanced than they are. Anyone remember the Jetsons?

reply to post by lunchmanstan


That's a very good point. Alot less resistance and most trains run on nearly flat ground at the massive expense of blasting through mountains and building trestles over ravines and waterways.

BTW, I apologize for some of my rants... sometimes I get beside myself when I get heated up about a subject...it's a weakness. I get heated up on this topic because there has been innovative adjustments and technology for ages that helps make internal combustion engines more efficient but the patents were bought up and shelved. That's NOT a conspiracy theory btw...

As I said, I'm not a physicist, automotive or a motion engineer. What caught my attention on the commercial (that most of you have explained correctly) was the idea of instead of making a "hybrid" car that really doens't get that much better mileage than anything else today and far less than cars of the late 70's and early 80's...is the idea of a diesel powered generator that runs an electric motor...I wish I knew the science better. If I am not mistaken, electric motors are far more efficient in transferring power to a drive train...more efficient, more reliable...per horse power anyway. It would take less HP in an electric motor because it is far more efficient in transferring the energy....but I digress due to ignorance of the higher disciplines in this field to be accurate...

But I am serious to the younger folks...if you are studying these kinds of fields...think hard about it....developing something along these lines just might make you rich beyond your wildest dreams and dubbed a "hero that saved the planet"...

Originally posted by boncho
If you want to save on gas, buy something like one of these.


Easy.

Is a Prius really more 'green'?



About that link, the prices on those cars are not actual prices, I've seen stupid 'Smart Cars' with stickers approaching 35 K. You will not drive home a Prius for 23 K, just go and try.

reply to post by Illustronic


If you drove the two cars the same way the prius would have lower gas mileage. The BMW was barely over an idle and the prius driver was flooring it. That doesn't reflect how people actually drive on the road.

As far as "green" goes, I never said anything about it being green. I simply posted a link in regards to gas mileage.

Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by Illustronic

 

If you drove the two cars the same way the prius would have lower gas mileage. The BMW was barely over an idle and the prius driver was flooring it. That doesn't reflect how people actually drive on the road.

As far as "green" goes, I never said anything about it being green. I simply posted a link in regards to gas mileage.

I enjoy your replies Bonco though you may have no references of that. I wasn't intending on jib-jabbing your post, I was just pointing out it isn't as it says it is in reality, unless you just tool around town your whole life.

If so a golf cart is much more efficient! (we have those in 'town' here.