Ontario man finds GPS Tracker on his truck.

Thanks Kram for the info, and IC Weiner thanks for confirming that. From the video i can tell this guy doesnt know much about the electronics in the device, but could you just plus the SIM card into a computer, and all the data would be visible? unless its coded to make sure no one else but them can see the info.

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I was just going to say. The number one reason would be a suspicious spouse.

being tracked would be flattering. im excited to check my vehicle, but im sure ill be left out.

i am extremely boring.......

LOL. All the "suggestions" on what you'd do if YOUR car came up with a tracker.....???

Maybe it's exactly what happened to him.

He was stopping at a truckstop one day....


Cuhail

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The only problem i have with this possibility is that how would his girlffriend/wife get her hands on an American made GPS Tracking system, have it activated by KORE Wireless, yet they dont know who owns the device?

This leads me to believe the government has something to do with it.
The fact that the company who activates these devices doesn't know who owns it, is deceiving. Shouldn't they have rules and regulations on what information they must have before activating these thing?

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Haha yeah i never thought of that, maybe a suspected terrorist found it, just happened to be at a truck stop or restaurant, and placed it on this guys truck. That would indeed suck, for the person spying, and the person now being spied on.

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Yeah this automatically means its the alphabet agencys.

Somone is paying the bill to the telecom company, and law enforcement have demanded adresses for less.

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Notice how i said "This leads me to believe"

Instead of, IT IS "100% THE GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!!!!!"

I know there are multiple possibilities as to how it got there, or who put it there. Im just offering my opinion.
Thank you

Originally posted by Anishnaabe
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Yes, a truck stop would be my first option XD, and then the container idea, that would really throw them off course lol.

And yeah me to, i wouldve kept it a secret, that way they dont know, that you know that there watching you all the time.

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yes, swap it out to another vehicle and watch to see who comes to get it when they realize they been found out!

People who are saying "our government", keep in mind the title says this happened in Canada

The GPS device that has a sim card in it is dialing a certain number at certain intervals or someone is dialing in and downloading the data stored. This is how these particular devices work. You could've put the sim card into a normal phone and 1/Found out the network it was using and 2/ answered it when it called to download the data. It may have even shown the number that was calling the device.

These trackers do not rely on a connection to the Internet as someone suggested. It would be too unreliable.

I'm not claiming to be an expert on every type of GPS Tracker but the ones that I have used and sold all work on a cellular phone system..
It would have been a very easy process to know who put it there and why..

Actually, the best GPS tracker is a cheap iPhone 3GS or 4 and use "Find My Phone". I've use one for that purpose and it works well.

Thanks for the reply, and the info.

I also wondered if it had to do with a phone. now i know. This guy must live in a cave if he couldnt figure out to put it in a phone.

This guy has an ongoing issue with his former employer. He was reportedly on Workers Compensation for a few years.
This enabled him 90% pay with all of his benefits. When he returned he was on light duty which basically means he didn't have to do any hard work. His former employer (FORD, I believe) fired him for something trivial because he was basically useless. He then proceeded with legal action.

This GPS was OBVIOUSLY planted by his former employer to use against him. Many companies hire Private Eyes to spy on Workers Compensation claimants because of fraud. Lots of guys will claim injury with nearly full pay and end up working other jobs (under the table) or be seen mowing thier lawns etc.

This sort of stuff is very common.

I have to agree with the last poster. Who has the most to gain from any information gathered by the device? Ford as they are the ones being sued. It's likely they were trying to find out where he was going so they could get photos of him doing work that disproves his claims.

There are also other possiblites, but I think my original thought is the most plausible. Many people don't realize their cars have tracking devices installed in them as terms of their loan. The dealer can find the car and shut it down in order to tale it back in case of nonpayment. It's very common for carlots to do that these days.

Originally posted by Wertdagf
Yeah this automatically means its the alphabet agencys.

Actually, I've heard it's not uncommon for some finance companies to require GPS tracking in the cars that they own (that you're paying them for the privilege of driving).

Originally posted by Anishnaabe
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Yes, a truck stop would be my first option XD, and then the container idea, that would really throw them off course lol.

And yeah me to, i wouldve kept it a secret, that way they dont know, that you know that there watching you all the time.

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I think that the guy (victim) just saying that he found it on his truck and going public says that he has nothing to hide and he has done no wrong....

If I was dealing drugs or whatever then yes throw the bastard thing in the nearest lake but he did not and therefor he must feel quite innocent of any wrong doing....
Regards, Iwinder

Originally posted by Goldcurrent
This guy has an ongoing issue with his former employer. He was reportedly on Workers Compensation for a few years.
This enabled him 90% pay with all of his benefits. When he returned he was on light duty which basically means he didn't have to do any hard work. His former employer (FORD, I believe) fired him for something trivial because he was basically useless. He then proceeded with legal action.

This GPS was OBVIOUSLY planted by his former employer to use against him. Many companies hire Private Eyes to spy on Workers Compensation claimants because of fraud. Lots of guys will claim injury with nearly full pay and end up working other jobs (under the table) or be seen mowing thier lawns etc.

This sort of stuff is very common.

I too am on long term disability through work here in Ontario and I was warned by my Union that they will definitely follow me and video tape me to catch me not being disabled.

Well they can film all they want because I need some major repairs and they know that.
My personal battle went on for almost twenty years before they conceded defeat and said yes you are one sick puppy.

In hindsight I should have sued the bastards for harassment but I and the wife were too stressed out to even think straight about what they were doing to us at the time.


Just trying to put a money spin on this I guess as that is what I am seeing here, somebody has something big to gain by this tracker put on the truck and It is not the Pope I can guarantee you.

Regards, Iwinder

Originally posted by I.C. Weiner
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I am an IT guy, and you are correct on both points. It would be possible to find the frequency that it is transmitting on, intercept packets, then be able to tell where the packets are being sent. Or plug in the card and get the info from there.

GPS is not the internet either. A signal is recieved from orbit, this becomes a number that is sent out to any reciever, anywhere. There is no two way communication to the device from the person tracking.No way to find the geographic location of the person recieving the data. Correct me if I am wrong GPS guys.

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My first reaction to finding such a device on my car would be to move it to a bus or long distance truck that is headed out of town. If it is a private company that placed it on your truck they will be confused and out of luck when the device goes beyond their operating range and they can not retrieve. Whatever they are being paid is likely less than the cost of the device and the tracking service.

I would not expect the police to help you identify the owner. The device is common and widely available. I suggest you shop for a similar device and ask a lot of questions about receiving confidential reports if you were to buy one. Next ask the first teenager you come across how to find the owner by reading the "SIM" card.

Armed with the information about the owner and the circumstances of finding it on your truck the police will take your complaint and look into what is likely an offence by the owner of the tracking device. If you do not have clear title to you truck it may have been placed by the lien holder and he may have the right to know the truck remains in your community.

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you could be right i found a bugg my fiance at the time had put in my car to keep tabs on me dont know how it worked showed it to the police and they told me what it was and after we broke up i found out it was her so i think you could indeed be on to something

Originally posted by I.C. Weiner
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I am an IT guy, and you are correct on both points. It would be possible to find the frequency that it is transmitting on, intercept packets, then be able to tell where the packets are being sent. Or plug in the card and get the info from there.

Not so easy. The frequency here is irrelevant. It would not be transmitting on a discreet radio band since there would be no effective range. In order to be effective, this thing either logs locally and is designed to be retrieved later, or it will use the cellular network, GSM/GPRS, most like a 3g or 4g connection which means it is encrypted and subscribed. There will be links to the subscription, but the other end may be anonymous and hard to identify. It would take a government query to trace the subscription to the ultimate user, unless the user was sophisticated to the point where they have left no tracks back to themselves. This is tough to back engineer.

You can buy a simple little arduino device today, attach a GSM module and a GPS module, all for under $50.
If you are really stealthy and technically competent, you can hack this device into the cellular grid by many methods.
This kind of thing will become a big issue soon, if not already.