What If ??

As myself and a few other friends have often discussed during half-time or playing the latest Madden How did we get 15+ trillion in debt we cant see anything built,purchased or acquired that would equal that amount of money.and as one or two others will always throw out "2 wars",hmm yes wars or expensive but not 15 trillion expensive.

The other day we began this topic again while hearing the politicians talk about the payroll tax vote.Someone among us blurted out"Black Project" one that the world has not seen since the first A Bomb,he then went to rant about that we became the big kid on the block when we unleashed the A Bomb. and since that point every small country with a pretty good G D P could build one,So he says that we are no longer the big stick because everyone now has one to or on the way to getting one.

It sounded good at the time but i didnt give it another thought until i read that Russia is promising a but load of new ICBMs like around 400 or so and that weeks earlier everyone was in a uproar because Obama was cutting or going to cut the arsenal by a big number

1st question:why would he bee decreasing our arsenal when other countries are building up
2nd question:how do you keep a budget and project that size under wraps
3rd question:what would it be

Well, just off-hand, it's worth mentioning that you, as an average citizen, wouldn't really be the first to be informed regarding the sales and purchase of property within or without the U.S. by any country.

Hence, your lack of intel is quite predictable.

Having said that, it can thus be inferred that you don't have the knowledge, connections, or overall data required to make an accurate assessment regarding this topic. I would add here that the same goes for all of us. If we had any information that was more than mildly contributory to this thread, the CIA or multiple other government organizations would kill us.

Curiosity is good, but wait until you have satisfied it before you start answering questions. And remember...it wasn't the asking that killed the cat.

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What If ??... What?
You want to know where your debt came from? Take a look into the Global Meltdown Forum, there are plenty of threads explaining what happened before and after 2007 and where the money went.

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Simple, you create fictitious programs and "bury" the loses into those.
Enron did the same thing. They'd bring in money but it wouldn't be enough to cover the loses. so they create ghost companies and REALLY drive those companies into the ground. This way the big project gets the funding it needs without drawing a bunch of questions.

I may have miss understood your questions though.

First take a look at Federal spending for 1 year.

2011

Next consider that only 1 president has ever paid off the National debt. That was Andrew Jackson, his presidency ended in 1837.

Finally learn how the Government borrows money from the FED and we have to pay them interest.

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1st question:why would he bee decreasing our arsenal when other countries are building up

Because we already have enough Nuclear weapons to destroy the entire World many times over.

en.wikipedia.org...

Currently, the United States nuclear arsenal is deployed in three areas:
Land-based intercontinental ballistic missiles, or ICBMs;
Sea-based, nuclear submarine-launched ballistic missiles, or SLBMs; and
Air-based nuclear weapons of the U.S. Air Force's heavy bomber group

The exact number of nuclear weapons possessed by the United States is difficult to determine. Different treaties and organizations have different criteria for reporting nuclear weapons, especially those held in reserve, and those being dismantled or rebuilt:

As of 1999, the U.S. was said to have 12,000 nuclear weapons of all types stockpiled.[4]
In its Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START) declaration for 2003, the U.S. listed 5968 deployed warheads as defined by START rules.[5]

For 2007, the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists listed the U.S. with about 5,400 total nuclear warheads: around 3,575 strategic and 500 nonstrategic warheads; and about 1,260 additional warheads held in the inactive stockpile. Other warheads are in some step of the disassembly process.[6]
The exact number as of Sept. 30, 2009, was 5,113 warheads, according to a U.S. fact sheet released May 3, 2010.[7]

In 2002, the United States and Russia agreed in the SORT treaty to reduce their deployed stockpiles to not more than 2,200 warheads each. In 2003, the US rejected Russian proposals to further reduce both nation's nuclear stockpiles to 1,500 each.[8] In 2007, for the first time in 15 years, the United States built some new warheads. These were to replace some older warheads as part of the Minuteman III upgrade program.[9] 2007 also saw the first Minuteman III missiles removed from service as part of the drawdown. Overall, stockpile numbers and deployment systems continued to decline as the U.S. approaches the levels prescribed in the SORT treaty which must be achieved by 2012.

In 2010, the Pentagon disclosed that the current size of its nuclear arsenal is a total of 5,113 warheads operationally deployed, kept in active reserve and held in inactive storage. The figure does not include the estimated 4,600 warheads that have been retired and scheduled for dismantlement. The number of operationally deployed strategic warheads stands at 1,968.[10]

2nd question:how do you keep a budget and project that size under wraps

Have you ever heard of the Manhatten Project ?

Compartmentalization

3rd question:what would it be

Your guess is as good as mine.

It's probably not spent on just one Black Project. But more than likely a few hand fulls of them.

here's 3 possibilities

1.Space based research & technology, UFO reverse engineering (NASA, Area 51)



2.Under ground bases (DUMBS, Denver Airport, Iron mountain)





3.Geoengineering the planet, Weather warfare (global warming, HAARP, chemtrails)

$25,000 toilet seats don't help...nor do projects taking in millions to study the sex life of crickets or showing monkeys chimp porn.....