Scientists create virus capable of killing millions

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It's a modern Frankenstein, miniaturized but potentially far more monstrous: a man-made virus capable of killing millions. Scientists promise safety, but the World Health Organization has for now halted publication of the controversial research, citing fears of bioterrorism

And for more about WHO's stance go to:
WHO: Deadly bird flu studies to stay secret for now

Two studies showing how scientists mutated the H5N1 bird flu virus into a form that could cause a deadly human pandemic will be published only after experts fully assess the risks, the World Health Organization (WHO) said on Friday.
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Speaking after a high-level meeting of flu experts and U.S. security officials in Geneva, a WHO official said an agreement had been reached in principle to keep details of the controversial work secret until deeper risk analyses have been carried out.

So now that these madmen have finished their deed, the WHO and obviously their cohorts have no urgent agenda to disclose their findings. Why?

To have time to assess the risks?

Is it not self evident?
The risk? Pandemic that would kill millions.

Like the 1918 flu that has now been fully sequenced, this is one more weapon in the arsenal of those who cull.

Why is this allowed? I would nuke the containment labs and exterminate this threat before the inevitable "accident" that releases this or one of the other plagues that have been ressurected or created under the guise of "research" with a tale of how this knowledge could save us should a mutant virus infect the world.

Yeah,,,hi fives around,
See you tomorrow. Don't forget to decontaminate on the way out....

What a great addition to the out of control downward spiral leading to our self-destruction.

Hello

The newest thing I saw was that they were going to let them publish their findings. They said that it was so easy to modify that it will probably occur in the environment naturally anyway.

take care

"Nuke there containment labs."

Well I can think of a couple of problems with that. I mean agree with you that they should perhaps be investigated further or even shut down but nuking a place filled with a deadly flu virus seems like a bad idea for many reasons really.

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Bury them under a million tonnes of reinforced concrete then

They probably had something like that since the 60's. Come o, guys don't you think the stuff found in germany in ww2 would be enough?

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I know! And we are worried about the vaccinations...
...it might be hysterical if it were not so true.


They decided to keep it a secret so it would not fall into the wrong hands.

This is a euphemism for "no one has met their asking price yet."

why are they allowed to make these viruses? whats the purpose?

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Our world is already chock full of man-made pathogens and disease-causing agents - all protected by Patent and Intellectual Property Rights laws for profit. The REAL issue with this research is that the scientists want to share their information openly and freely.

Public health authorities support Open Access to scientific information - the fight against Open Access is led by those with financial interests: Big Pharma and the "security" industry.

What's to figure out?



Check it out: UPDATE: Bird Flu Paper Publication Delayed

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We could create a virus, that would kill off the entire human species. Nothing new. You decomtaminate too much, all that is going to do is ruin your immune system. The people who use hand sanitizer on a daily, or hourly basis, have no idea what they're doing.

Originally posted by biggmoneyme
why are they allowed to make these viruses? whats the purpose?

The true purpose that we do it is to find the true way they work. If we can find triggers that make them mutate we can kill them faster. But with all research you can always discover a way to make it more lethal too.

Interesting.. but let's not forget the purpose of science:

Once in Hawaii I was taken to see a Buddhist temple. In the temple a man said, "I am going to tell you something that you will never forget." And then he said, "To every man is given the key to the gates of heaven. The same key opens the gates of hell." And so it is with science. In a way it is a key to the gates of heaven, and the same key opens the gates of hell, and we do not have any instructions as to which is which gate. Shall we throw away the key and never have a way to enter the gates of heaven? Or shall we struggle with the problem of which is the best way to use the key? That is, of course, a very serious question, but I think that we cannot deny the value of the key to the gates of heaven.

All the major problems of the relations between society and science lie in this same area. When the scientist is told that he must be more responsible for his effects on society, it is the applications of science that are referred to. If you work to develop nuclear energy you must realize also that it can be used harmfully. Therefore, you would expect that, in a discussion of this kind by a scientist, this would be the most important topic. But I will not talk about it further. I think that to say these are scientific problems is an exaggeration. They are far more humanitarian problems. The fact that how to work the power is clear, but how to control it is not, is something not so scientific and is not something that the scientist knows so much about.

This whole story has been totally blown out of proportion.

The word Case fatality rate is often used. H5N1 has a Case fatality rate of about 50% which is quite high. But what does case fatality mean.

People who actually get so sick they have to go to the hospital. From this people 50% Die. There is a large proportion of the population that got infected and didnt got sick. In many asian countries People are tested positive for antibodies against H5N1 without ever becoming sick from it.

Also the Ferret experiment that was actually done is pretty simple. The whole censorship bollocks is pretty pointless since its pretty easy to reproduce. And honestly there are far better bioweapons available.

You take H5N1, infect the ferret intranasally wait a bit, grind up the loung, get the virus out. and repeat the process until you get a virus that is "airborne" and can infect a healthy ferret in a neighbour cage. Thats essentially it.

The researcher actually said on the last Biodefense meeting that its actually not very deadly and that he had very few test animals.

So H5N1 transmits very poorly and Its deadlyness is far overrated.

However this research is importend, if the virus does make it at one point and becomes transmissable between humans and we know nothing about it then we got a problem. If we are prepared then...well we are prepared. Being prepared is always good.

David Rockefeller's Sloan Kettering Cancer fund has been calling up households left and right for "the gift of life" donations etc

Surprise surprise, guess where the donations are going?



(then again, Rockefeller's name should be synonymous with DEPOP by now, to most if not all ATsers)