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USA citizens irreversible brainwashed??

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posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 08:49 AM
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Yesterday in a chat room, i spoke with some Americans about, the current election on america and Iran issue.
Most of them really believe that their election are not fake...
And they called me coward, because i told them than i wouldn't fight and kill people just because the corporations and politicians want...
They were crazy, called me terrorist... i banned me from the chat.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 08:50 AM
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brainwashing is in the eye of the beholder



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 08:57 AM
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It depends on who you are talking to really. My friends are not brainwashed...because I only have 1



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 09:00 AM
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tv desinformation like this...



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posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 09:01 AM
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They weren't friends, i live in Portugal, just want to see Americans opinions.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 09:08 AM
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Originally posted by syrinx high priest
brainwashing is in the eye of the beholder


To get to the realization that all you believed in, held close to your heart , is based on lies and deceptions is hard for a lot of people to grasp.
It is easier to tow the line, be told who to be mad at, when to be happy, then it is to go against the grain.
Sometimes Sheep, want to be Sheep, not all people are capable of rational thought.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 09:11 AM
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No they aren't!


Read my Signature! No truer statement I could tell you.


"Bombs, Guns, Fire, cannot kill ideas. The only way to truly kill an idea, is with Another Idea."

True Statement.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by Tw0Sides

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
brainwashing is in the eye of the beholder


To get to the realization that all you believed in, held close to your heart , is based on lies and deceptions is hard for a lot of people to grasp.
It is easier to tow the line, be told who to be mad at, when to be happy, then it is to go against the grain.
Sometimes Sheep, want to be Sheep, not all people are capable of rational thought.


the point is that a true critical thinker examines all claims, regardless of the source. a true critical thinker doesn't see conspiracy in everything, but is open to any possibility. the sheep argument goes both ways. someone who accepts anything paul says, or jones, or rense without questioning it is a sheep as well



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 09:17 AM
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Read through these pdf files and see how deep the brainwashing really is.
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by Dannijca
Yesterday in a chat room, i spoke with some Americans about, the current election on america and Iran issue.
Most of them really believe that their election are not fake...
And they called me coward, because i told them than i wouldn't fight and kill people just because the corporations and politicians want...
They were crazy, called me terrorist... i banned me from the chat.


I can not believe people would not just take the word of a random person in a chat room who gets his news from web sites that feature aliens and bigfoot. Shocking I tell you.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by Dannijca

And they called me coward, because i told them than i wouldn't fight and kill people just because the corporations and politicians want...
They were crazy, called me terrorist... i banned me from the chat.


The world is in a sad state, when the person who does NOT want to fight and kill, is called the terrorist :shk:



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 10:06 AM
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OP you have to remember....TPTB have spent a great deal of time, money and
energy indoctinating the American people. They do it through the media, the military,
school, drugs (both legal and illegal), lousy nutrition, and god knows what else they've
learned to do with technology. Is it any wonder most American's don't know
which end is up? "The individual is handicapped but coming face to face with a
conspiracy so monstrous they cannot believe it exists". - J Edgar Hoover


Don't give up on us Americans. More and more are waking up everyday. For
me it came almost all at once and I walked around for 3 weeks absolutely
stunned. Mostly stunned by my own capacity for denial and the fact that
the truth was right there in front of me but I had been so brainwashed I
simply could not see it. Remember, people being mind controlled usually don't
know it or they wouldn't allow it.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 10:35 AM
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That's like this... Say a little boy is raised by his father and his father teaches him throughout his whole life that there is no such thing as the color blue. After a while he will believe that what his father taught him about the color blue. Now if some other person came into his life and told him my favorite color is blue. The kid that was brainwashed would never EVER believe this new person, because it is inbeded into his head that there is no such thing.

Same thing goes for politics, the news, schools, anything you can think of. Society has made everyone believe a certain way and when anybody ever challenges their ways...well its met with hostility. It's pretty sad actually who wants to live the rest of their lives with rules and regulations and not believe that there is so much more out there you could never imagine.
edit on 19-2-2012 by Evanzsayz because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by Tw0Sides

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
brainwashing is in the eye of the beholder


To get to the realization that all you believed in, held close to your heart , is based on lies and deceptions is hard for a lot of people to grasp.
It is easier to tow the line, be told who to be mad at, when to be happy, then it is to go against the grain.
Sometimes Sheep, want to be Sheep, not all people are capable of rational thought.


Well said. Those that do not choose the light will not rise up to the new Earth; they will continue to live an even bleaker existence, where the jack boot of tyranny is forever upon the face of humanity. They will continue transmigration for eons...upon a great wheel. But alas it is thier choice and that must be honored.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 10:53 PM
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that should answer any ? about that.. yes we're brain washed and foolish, mislead and pressured, arrogant, caddy, and devided. we (not me) have to be that way or we would have to accept how wrong we are and not many people are willing to do so



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 11:23 PM
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The only functional brain the Americans have is situated within the software of the B2 bomber and the F-22 raptor. These brains hardly make a mistake.

In the US their machinery have to do all the thinking for them. Its called taking safety precautions.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 11:29 PM
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What's wrong with being brainwashed. Keeping a clean brain is a desired trait for living in this society. Remember to clean you're ears so you can hear everything and act like you fit in.
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posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 11:29 PM
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Nope intellect can overcome such a basic premise.It's usually what the believer WANTS to believe.Some haven't got the strength to cope with a world of conspiracies.Others are waiting to destroy them.Most are some where in the middle.I guess universally ,that would be the "Yin Yang" of the situation.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 11:41 PM
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There is a way to deprogram. I've done it and the perspective you gain is profound.

1) Turn off the television for two years.
2) Keep abreast of "news" consciously. You'll get more than what you need from others idle comments. Most of it is not news and will never affect you directly.
3) Learn to quiet the chatter mind.
4) Strip your mind of all labeling and judgments. Start to look at the world with a completely open mind.
5) Learn to see life through others eyes and realize we are all the same.
6) Eliminate all forms of dogma in your life.
7) Tame the ego and use feelings/emotions as indicators & mirrors to self discovery.
8) Tune into nature.
9) Acceptance of what is. Eliminate drama. Learn to be present to the moment.

Life becomes real and you start to see the circus drama for what it is. You recognize the fear-driven ego in most all of politics, you see television as a distraction (program) that takes you from a physical life to a mental reality show that attaches to your emotions--making it a very powerful addiction. Unfortunately here in the US it usually means you will find many of your relationships just aren't that fulfilling due to others attachment to drama.

Sadly, most in the US will never realize the trap they are in.



posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 11:41 PM
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Brainwashed? Absolutely, yes. Irreversible? Time will tell.


Emphasis by me.

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Psychological warfare (PSYWAR), or the basic aspects of modern psychological operations (PSYOP), have been known by many other names or terms, including Psy Ops, Political Warfare, “Hearts and Minds,” and Propaganda.[1] Various techniques are used, by any set of groups, and aimed to influence a target audience's value systems, belief systems, emotions, motives, reasoning, or behavior. It is used to induce confessions or reinforce attitudes and behaviors favorable to the originator's objectives, and are sometimes combined with black operations or false flag tactics. Target audiences can be governments, organizations, groups, and individuals.

In Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes, Jacques Ellul discusses psychological warfare as a common peace policy practice between nations as a form of indirect aggression in place of military aggression. This type of propaganda drains the public opinion of an opposing regime by stripping away its power on public opinion. This form of aggression is hard to defend against because no international court of justice is capable of protecting against psychological aggression since it cannot be legally adjudicated. The only defense is using the same means of psychological warfare. It is the burden of every government to defend its state against propaganda aggression. "Here the propagandists is dealing with a foreign adversary whose morale he seeks to destroy by psychological means so that the opponent begins to doubt the validity of his beliefs and actions."
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