Secret Service Describes JFK as Reckless: (a sex machine! Would you as POTUS?)

During the Cuban Missile Crisis, decisions made by President John F. Kennedy and Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev could have plunged both countries into thermonuclear war. But the 45-year-old president was preoccupied with 19-year-old White House aide Mimi Beardsley Alford, according to her memoir “Once Upon a Secret.” Secret Service agents assigned to Kennedy’s detail say that his affair with Alford was just the tip of the iceberg.

Agents assigned to Kennedy’s detail soon learned that he led a double life. He was the charismatic leader of the free world. But in his other life, he was the cheating, reckless husband whose aides snuck women into the White House to appease his sexual appetite.

Besides one-night stands, Kennedy had several consorts within the White House. Besides Alford, whose book came out on Feb. 8, one was Pamela Turnure, who had been Kennedy’s secretary when he was a senator and then became Jacqueline Kennedy’s press secretary in the White House. “When Jackie was away, Pam Turnure would see JFK at night at the residence,” says former Secret Service agent Chuck Taylor.

Priscilla Wear and Jill Cowen, were secretaries who were known, respectively, as Fiddle and Faddle. Wear already had the nickname Fiddle when she joined the White House staff, so Kennedy aides applied the name Faddle to Cowen.Neither did much work,” says former agent Larry Newman, who was on the Kennedy detail.“Fiddle and Faddle were well-endowed and would swim with JFK in the pool. They wore only white t-shirts that came to their waists. You could see their nipples. We had radio contact with Jackie’s detail in case she came back.”

One afternoon, Kennedy was cavorting in the White House pool with young women when Secret Service agents on Jackie’s detail radioed that she was returning unexpectedly to the White House. “Jackie was expected back in 10 minutes, and JFK came charging out of the pool,” says agent Anthony Sherman, who was on his detail at the time. “He had a bathing suit on and a Bloody Mary in his hand.”

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And, of course. Marilyn Monroe:


Now. honestly. Did you think all of this about this man... before these recent revelations have come about? Sure not the image that is present by most outlets:

John F. Kennedy and Jacqueline Bouvier. The couple is seen on June 27, 1953, in Hyannis Port, Mass., sitting together in the sunshine at Kennedy's family home a few months before their wedding.

I wonder. Did he know he was going to be a total Pig in office when he sat for this photo in 1963. Or did he get overwhelmed with power and influence. Once he got into office, skirts just went flying up? How could so many people around him just stand by as the "Leader of the Free World" led a Playboy life with the COMMIES at our front door no less?

They must have not been able to sleep well at night. Of course, if you beleive the first womans account, apparently those ladies servered sexual favors to anyone JFK wanted them to. According to her, JFK tried to have here take pills of a narcotic nature- IN TEXAS, which he had her flown to a private party.

So, what do you do when you have beautiful women all around you, will do please you sexually anyway you wanted.... all the time. Would your moral character faulter? I would sure hope that someday a person will be there that isn't only try to screw America over (like Obama) but all the hired help also.

One of the main reasons I wanted Palin in. But I won't go there... unless you want me to.... )

PS: I have to admit that when I read the part about 3somes... I said "No way" etc. But after I see Fiddle and Faddle... and rethinking my younger fraternity days.... They look like Just the 2 you want to ask to participate. Fun loving types.... IMO.

Yea well... instead of checking who hes sleeping with they could instead have prevented his murder.

Who cares with whom jfk had sex with? What I know is when he died it was the day america died.

Grats SS for pointlessly keeping track of his love affairs tho, maybe it will make another nice movie or headlines in some magazine like TIME, and again, the zionist lobby can profit a bit more from his death.

RIP JFK.. and you did have a damn good taste for women! I would do the same. If they drop from the sky, I just have to catch them!

From a psychological perspective, men can quite easily "compartmentalize" their lives, so that their sex life, family life and professional life are all separate and don't have to overlap...in their minds, anyway.

JFK's father also had a string of mistresses. Back in the day, men of power and wealth ALWAYS had mistresses and cheap little playthings they used and tossed. I'm not saying that it is OK, I'm only stating a fact of the time. A man of his stature was almost expected to play around. They were expected to marry beautiful, pure women to give them children, but the kinky stuff was sought outside of the marriage bed.

LBJ was also a cheater. I think the presidents who weren't known for cheating either weren't charming enough to hook the little girls, or they succeeded in keeping it super-secret. This applies to our presidents even today.

I believe that Kennedy still had morals when it came to America, her place in this world, and how peace can be fostered, rather than destroyed. He saw the destructive forces within the government very clearly, and did his best to stop them. The proof is in his record. Seeking the peaceful path is not for the weak. Using war as the first resort, rather than the last, is the path chosen by weaklings.

Pointless much?

The only person he would owe an apology to would be his wife and children. Since the government has no business in the bedrooms of its people, we have no right to dictate what happens in his bed, president or not. The man has been dead for decades. Does it matter a lick who he slept with and when? Let him rest in peace.

I saw a documentary about a year or so ago, that talked about his infidelity.

If that documentary was truthful, he had slept with spies from Russia, Germany, China, etc.
He didn't know they were spies at first, but he was way too easy for women to get at. If a woman came on to him, he slept with her.

Apparently, there was people afraid that he was going to accidentally (or unknowingly) release sensitive information, and put the US at risk.

reply to post by nightbringr



I think you missed the point of my thread. What type of person/man do you think you would be under those circumstances then.

Able to take at least one 19 year olds virginity in your wifes bed, have that girl orally sastify friends, ply illegal substances upon her etc etc... you really should read the first ones story. Big breasted party girls ON STAFF that willing join into a 3some after swiming in wet T-shirts in the White House pool with the POTUS-on your whim? Crazy Beautiful movie stars throwing themselves at your feet-willing to have an affair...?

I guess it really is Good to be the KING!!!

Originally posted by anon72
I think you missed the point of my thread. What type of person/man do you think you would be under those circumstances then.

A human man. I do not want a unfeeling, senseless automaton as president. I fear them more.

Originally posted by anon72
Able to take at least one 19 year olds virginity in your wifes bed, have that girl orally sastify friends, ply illegal substances upon her etc etc...

The only problem i have there is the illegal substance part, the cheating is between him and his family. I suppose you any kind of sex that isnt missionary position and between a married couple is immoral, i do not. As long as all people are willing (if you dont think there are millions of girls who wouldnt give a fortune to sleep with the most powerful man in the world your deluded), to me it is not immoral. Again, as i said earlier the only people deserving of an apology are his wife and children.

Originally posted by anon72
you really should read the first ones story. Big breasted party girls ON STAFF that willing join into a 3some after swiming in wet T-shirts in the White House pool with the POTUS-on your whim? Crazy Beautiful movie stars throwing themselves at your feet-willing to have an affair...?

Ok, and?

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I think the article you're using is a little bit misleading to be honest. It makes it sound like Kennedy was the equivalent of the modern day Berlusconi, someone only concerned about his own life and saw his political career as something of a burden - That's incorrect. Yeah, JFK wasn't exactly the best husband (to say the least) and he had many affairs, no one can defend that type of behavior. But he still had a job to do and he worked hard at what he did. The affairs, as sickening as they are for a husband to continually do, were, if anything, a much needed distraction from an incredibly stressful job.

They were still very wrong of course but he wasn't solely focused on "getting some" whenever possible - He knew he had a job to do still.

For example the article your'e using says this:

Ronald Kessler reporting from Washington, D.C. — During the Cuban Missile Crisis, decisions made by President John F. Kennedy and Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev could have plunged both countries into thermonuclear war.

But the 45-year-old president was preoccupied with 19-year-old White House aide Mimi Beardsley Alford, according to her memoir “Once Upon a Secret.”

It's making a very drastic statement trying to suggest that the world is on the brink of Nuclear war, which of course it was, and then it talks about JFK and Mimi as if she was all he cared about at that time and he took a lackadaisical approach to the Cold war issues. Please don't be swayed by that nonsense.. because it is nonsense and an obviously biased write up.

The article here is accurate in that JFK was a bad husband, which he admittedly was, but it's still a rather biased article, one from someone with an obvious dislike for the murdered president in my opinion. We know this because of some of the words used, take this part of the article for example:

JFK’s recklessness eventually contributed to his death. Despite warnings of violence in Dallas, he refused to let Secret Service agents ride on the rear running board of his limousine in the motorcade on Nov. 22, 1963.

First off, it has to be noted that JFK was forced to call off a previous trip to Chicago the same month of his death (which they neglect to mention) as shown here:

ABC Website: 44 Years After JFK's Death, New Assassination Plot Revealed

On Nov. 2, the president was about to leave the White House for Chicago and Bolden says a Cuban murder squad here was unaccounted for.

"The morning of the game, the special agent in charge of the Chicago office called the White House and recommended the president cancel his trip to Chicago," Bolden said.

News reports stated that Kennedy didn't show because he was ill or because of a diplomatic crisis. Official investigations of JFK never determined why the president canceled Chicago Nov. 2. But in his first interview in 44 years, Bolden said JFK stayed away because of an imminent threat.

Bolden said the president didn't come to Chicago because he was basically waved off by the Secret Service, and it wasn't because he had a cold.

(Source)

And since he was already in the middle of a campaign he couldn't exactly call off another very important trip, especially in the very place where he was hated more than any other place in America, which of course was Texas. Abandoning the trip there would've been incredibly damaging to him, potentially career ending so he had no choice but to go through it it despite the security concerns.

Secondly, the agents weren't doing anything that day they didn't normally do. It was standard protocol for the time for them to be exactly where they was. In fact here's a picture of them all together to show it, notice how most of them are on the follow-up car:

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*It's worth pointing out that in the above image you can see some agents right on the back of the JFK limousine.. Well, on the day of November 22nd, the day of the assassination, they did the same thing. It was only as the limousine was entering Dealey Plaza that they backed off to the follow-up car as the crowds had massively dispersed and the limousine was seconds away from heading onto the free-way and they obviously aren't to be expected to hold onto the back of the limousine travelling at great speeds.

JFK wanted the people to see him - as I said before, he was in the middle of a campaign. He was even known to just go up to people, shake their hands and start talking to them. He was a people person. The writer of the article is just trying to paint him in a bad light there from the looks of it, even blaming him for his own death. Rather harsh really..

I recommend people reading this thread take the time to watch a documentary called "The Kennedy Detail", you'll find a much more accurate representation, as opposed to an article wrote up from someone biased, of how the Secret Service saw JFK and the Kennedy family.

reply to post by Rising Against


Excellent response and info. Thank you.

Yes, he did many a great things politically. I dare say in todays world... he wouldn't be called a true Democrat... IMO.

But, my post was meant more to say "What would you do in that postition of power?". Could you withstand the temtations or desires.... of a beautiful woman... women... etc etc. Like I posted down from the OP. The pic of he and JKO. Prior to all that stuff-I am guessing.

As far as the people who come out with this stuff.... I don't know why they do. It amazes me how these women of affairs comes out'... basically saying "I was a S..T or W...E with the President... give me money to hear about it.....

I far more admire the "ladies" that kept their mouths shut. When they don't... they are just being what they were then... but for money this time.... not sex. But... thats just me.

reply to post by anon72


Ah well sorry if I misunderstood then, I just read the article you posted and had to throw my opinion out there. It bugged me after all, lol.

On-topic though - Personally I'd like to think I could resist the temptations that came with such a position, although of course there's only one way to truly find out such a thing and that's being in that position in the first place. Something I doubt I'll achieve to be honest, lol.

JFK on the other hand was a playboy. He spent his entire life pretty much getting what he wanted due to his families wealth and women were always attracted to him. Being President however meant not much changed. Life, to him, was still "normal." Women, if anything, were attracted to him even more as well - He was after all the most powerful man in all of America. Few women would/could resist him.

He had that confidence as well. Take Mimi Alford for example.. If you believe her story then almost no words were exchanged between them. He just started the affair almost at the flip of a switch and when he wanted it to happen. Why? Because he knew what power he had, he knew how he was seen (all the power, the wealth, a married man etc.) and he knew he was almost irresistible in a sense. So yeah, all in all not much really changed for him I guess. He was still a powerful person with lots of wealth as he was in his younger days - The only thing that may have changed was thing's maybe got that little bit easier for him in regards to starting affairs with women. And that's not something that would exactly slow him down. If anything it would make it happen a lot more.

But on a personal level I really don't think we can know for sure until we're in that position, or a similar position. After all, plenty of people out there like to say they'll do this, they'll do that but when it really comes to it.. It's a different ball game, you know what I mean? Anyway, nice idea for a thread. It's an interesting question to ask in my opinion. Power does corrupt though and it can change people so answering with utmost accuracy can maybe be a little bit tricky I think.

Anyway, on a final note I just want to quickly mention an affair that you didn't mention in your opening post - Her name was Mary Meyers, wife of CIA agent Cord Meyers. Her affair with JFK, IMO, got her killed so you might find looking for info on her to be pretty interesting. She died in a fashion not too dissimilar, in regards to circumstances, to Dorothy Kilgallen and even Karen SIlkwood. Maybe a connection.. I dunno. Something to think about though. That is all...

reply to post by Rising Against

Anyway, on a final note I just want to quickly mention an affair that you didn't mention in your opening post - Her name was Mary Meyers, wife of CIA agent Cord Meyers. Her affair with JFK, IMO, got her killed so you might find looking for info on her to be pretty interesting. She died in a fashion not too dissimilar, in regards to circumstances, to Dorothy Kilgallen and even Karen SIlkwood. Maybe a connection.. I dunno. Something to think about though. That is a

Dam glad I checked back on this. Will do. Thank you. never heard of this stuff. Makes me wonder how he got any work done...

Typical Irish man.....

reply to post by truthinfact



Please elaborate. You have history with such a type? lol

I would think most women would say Typical Male...

Really old news for the most part. I remember reading about Fiddle and Faddle and the White House pool over thirty years ago. So now we have yet another tell-all book to make a few bucks and this gets spread out all over again. Many presidents have had many affairs. In the last century the ones we know about are Harding, Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, and Clinton. The 19th century had just as many. There are probably some we don't know about, just like with everyone else.

The only surprising thing here is that people are surprised about it.

reply to post by schuyler


Point taken however.

It amazes me the the "media" and "history" still portray him as some Icon-above reproach.

When it all comes down to it-to the stuff the really matters-family.

It was a vile pig.

Originally posted by anon72
reply to post by schuyler

 

Point taken however.

It amazes me the the "media" and "history" still portray him as some Icon-above reproach.

When it all comes down to it-to the stuff the really matters-family.

It was a vile pig.

The "media" does no such thing. The "media" tells us all about his escapades, including this last one promulgated by guess who? The media. In terms of "history," what's more important? How he handled the Bay of Pigs, the missile crisis, and Vietnam, or the fact he swam with Fiddle and Faddle? A lot of people whould say the latter is irrelevant and the former affected vastly more people, more lioves, more families.

You are being very judgmental here. Family may be the thing that matters to you, but there are some other issues to consider. Is Eisenhower a "vile pig" because he had an affair with his driver? How about FDR cheating on his frigid wife? Or is winning WW II and shutting down the Nazi death machine perhaps a wee bit more important?