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Whats buried in the Iraqi sand box?

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posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 01:22 AM
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Before you get too far into the 'everyone's intel was saying so'; routine. -Sminkey Pinkey

ok, who brought this dick here?

Apparently you think I have some type of "routine" to follow, but I can assure you I have no routine to follow at all... I only bring up the fact that the worlds intelligence agencies agreed with us so many times is BECAUSE THEY DID! Hell, even Kerry agreed there was WMDs in Iraq. (Theres even a new thread about him agreeing, a few topics up.)

In all reality, I think your explanation (Saddam made us -think- he had WMD's) is just as valid as my assumption that they were either moved from Iraq, or buried in Iraq. I wasn't there, nor were you. We can only look at the facts, and come to a conclusion based on them... no need to assume I've got a song, and dance for you... because I DO NOT.



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 01:34 AM
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Originally posted by Oddfellow
Is is possible to fly in such a fly-machine after it's been buried? Does all that sand get into the works and knacker the bearings and things?

Yeah I think they'd be pretty buggered after being in the dirt, even with their plastic wrap. It'd be a hefty mission to get them airworthy again, easier than building one from scratch though still.



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 01:52 AM
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Originally posted by oui


Evidence supporting the belief that Saddam Hussein may have buried his stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons has been uncovered, quite literally. The Department of Defense revealed earlier this month that U.S. search teams had discovered a squadron of fighter aircraft buried in the deserts of Iraq.



This is an excerpt from an article from August, 2003. I sorta found it on accident while looking for some pictures of migs. This may be old news to some, but I was totally oblivious to the finding of these jets last year... Anyhow Heres a few links, along with some pics to go along with it.

PS- for me, this makes the idea of Saddam having hidden stockpiles of weapons (Chem, Bio, Nuke, etc) not so "out of this world anymore". Iraq is a HUGE sandy place... who knows what can be sitting beneath the sands.

American forces unearth hidden aircraft in Iraq -Air Force
U.S. Search Teams Uncover Buried Iraqi Jets - JINSA
Iraqi 'Mach 3' MiG Buried in Sand -News Max
American Forces Pull Hidden MiG fighters out of Iraqi Desert - Defense link





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[edit on 16-9-2004 by oui]



*Sorry new to this thread*

put thats still speculation, whoopty doo if he has some aircrafts buried.. it doesn't mean he has nukes buried.. or anything else for that matter... it simply implies he may have more aircrafts buried.. to speculate further involves first finding something of that nature, otherwise it is a vivid guess



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 01:56 AM
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Originally posted by oui
Actually most of the evidence of Iraq moving its WMD's to another country leads away from Iran (leads to Syria). Besides; Iraq, and Iran have not had the best of relationships in the past.

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WHatever, instead of looking at things for face value ask different bloody questions.. like why ?... and really investigate instead of looking at crooked owned news stations.... Go there and talk to the people, find out whose really behind the scenes.. its not a matter of who has what, its what they have it for.... Those terrorists, are fighting for our freedom essentially, freedom from this corporate hell.. money, we are all so sheepish



posted on Sep, 19 2004 @ 09:10 AM
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Originally posted by oui
ok, who brought this dick here?


- Hmm, personal insults, nice start. Nice attitude to a free message board there, not.


Apparently you think I have some type of "routine" to follow, but I can assure you I have no routine to follow at all... I only bring up the fact that the worlds intelligence agencies agreed with us so many times is BECAUSE THEY DID! Hell, even Kerry agreed there was WMDs in Iraq. (Theres even a new thread about him agreeing, a few topics up.)


- ....and I can call it a sham because (certainly in the case of my own country in 2002/3) the so-called most damning 'intelligence' turned out to be mainly US sourced and with little credibility.

('We' had several Parliamentary investigations of this, Blair was led by the nose and 'we' know it)

I think you'll also find that in the case with the majority of Euroope's intelligence services they did not all know.... about Iraqi WMD's existing in 2002/3.

I agree there has been a handy confusing of what the situation was post gulf war mk1 when they did exist and just pre gulf war mk2 when every inspector that went there said catagorically that they did not exist. As I said, even Bush's hand-picked squad.

Hence my comment 'everybody said so' is an empty routine mostly for those that just want to believe and who will keep repeating it no matter what - especially no matter that nothing has been found that remotely resembles a WMD of the type Bush was trying to convince everyone existed pre this latest Iraqi war.


In all reality, I think your explanation (Saddam made us -think- he had WMD's) is just as valid as my assumption that they were either moved from Iraq, or buried in Iraq.


- Considering actual dummy facilities have been found and examined I'd say my comment is one of fact and not a theory or idea of explaination or in any way an assumption at all. I'd say that made it more valid, wouldn't you?


I wasn't there, nor were you. We can only look at the facts, and come to a conclusion based on them... no need to assume I've got a song, and dance for you... because I DO NOT.


- True, I wasn't there but I'd be careful about what you think are the facts. Certainly in terms of the whole facts.

If you look there is much more (completely credible and accurate) information out there than the mainstream media is currently carrying.....and certainly compared to the US's mainstream media!

You aren't doing any routine for me (like as if I was asking you to) but it sounds like you might be in step and time with what your Gov wants you quick-stepping to.

PS - Try calming down a little, you wouldn't want to be showing up here and making a fool of yourself would you? You might even end up looking a bit of a .....'dick'? Hmmmm?




[edit on 19-9-2004 by sminkeypinkey]



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