Iran Says US Attack Would Be ‘Akin To Suicide’

To the thread readers of this thread I say WHO CARES who won what and who has this and that kind of Military.

WAR is not PEACE and will NEVER bring peace to the people.

We the People of the United States of America are HUMAN beings and some of us REALLY DO want peace. We have men in leadership who do not care about the people just like the leaders of ALL the other Countries.

They care about their pocket and making it bigger. That is it!

No one wins when there is a war. Lives are lost. LIVES! People who are loved and may have families!

The best thing I see for people of all countries is to over power their Government in numbers and begin a new Era how WE CHOOSE! I am so sick and tired of paying them my hard earned money to go to another country or our own and slaughter innocent human beings....Big and Small.

Where does it end?

Originally posted by TDawgRex

Originally posted by theubermensch
Ok,without the link,I was saying that China is already involved in economic warfare with the US. They are working against you.

And that is news? We've known that for years. But the US is a consumer nation.

I'm sensing a little jealousy here as most US citizens, even in the poorest of circumstances still live better than their counterparts the world over.

Actually that's not true. The poorer US citizens are worse off than the poorer Western European citizens.

Originally posted by nightbringr

Originally posted by KeliOnyx
No he is right in every conventional means the U.S. had Vietnam won.

Im sorry, when did the USA push to, and take over Hanoi? Without the defeat and capitulation of the enemy, you did not "win".

When Nixon started strategic bombing of the North, including Hanoi, the North capitulated and sued for peace, but started an interminable "peace process".

reply to post by MamaJ


i'm ok with you sincerly but...In this narcissistic human race, I see only weakness, cowardice, betrayal, neurosis safe, sentimentality on one side and cruel insensitivity to animal suffering , passion for the futile amusements frenzy for mechanical and functional activities, beliefs in gods below, submission to authority, servility, magical practices egotistical, spineless prayers, seeking self-interest, passivity, substance abuse, pornography, ideological dreams, internationalism (regression in the mound), narrow judgment, injustice, false tolerance, humanitarianism atheist, camouflaged by resentment of big words like "unconditional love", fear, religion, superstition, lust for power, masochism, cruelty, self-indulgence, materialism, passive mediumship, evil, destructive analytical life, pedophilia, prostitution, cult of celebrity, ideals planetary bounded, money, greed, attachment to the land of exile, longing for immortality in the matter, alcoholism, psychologism, theology, amazement, narcosis, lying, scientism, noodle-ageism, fascination, divination, control, and mathematics ... leave it at that.
How do you want to belong to this species...so making another war is a simple game we will watch it on tv as any others tv show...

now i will tell you this, the third war will start with usa/israel/iran something small will occure and then the third war will start Usa vs russia because the cold war was never end and this time they will fight, russia will protect iran, then the Arab world will be ablaze, china will finance war by helping Russian, Europe will be divided into two and nobody will be safe.

just remember that and you will see I'm right

financial position and all that it can cause became too unstable, it is time to start up the machine of chaos...

Is it too hard to specify a distinction between 'America' and its 'American regime'? Im not greedy, nor do I wish death upon innocence. I also agree with the person who pointed out the FACT that Iran is not, in any way, shape or form, the innocent lamb here.

31b

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Is it too hard to specify a distinction between 'America' and its 'American regime'? Im not greedy, nor do I wish death upon innocence. I also agree with the person who pointed out the FACT that Iran is not, in any way, shape or form, the innocent lamb here.

maybe iran is not the lamb but i think this is the 'American regime' who put in place Khomeiny, this is the 'American regime' who give money and weapon to Saddam saddam hussein to make the war against iran...and this is the same regime who are going to make a war with iran because as everyone knows that nuclear is a property of the American regime... maybe there are not the lamb but actual iran had not invade many country and put the chaos where they put there foot...some of you say iran give money to terrorist but cia had made the same, you have short memories but it is in an American military hospital that bin Laden received treatment ? and this is a fact that he had relationship with the bush family ...iran is not the a lamb but i know where is the wolf...we must stop this fool's game this world is rotten to the bone and all regimes are butchers.

Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to post by theubermensch

 

When pinting fingers, remember that three are pointing back at you.

Iran is quite the bully as well.

They have admitted to State sponsered terrorism. Even boasted about it.

edit on 9-2-2012 by TDawgRex because: (no reason given)

america does this under the table but if iran does it openly its different ???

reply to post by theubermensch


I wouldn't say America is a coward or delusional I'd say the people running it are. You can't blame the American people for the ignorance they have because we're fed a bunch of media driven garbage. Maybe if we had some real news agencies everyone would be more informed and up to par on what's REALLY going on in the world.

reply to post by mbkennel


Yea Because instead of taking care of us. We waste money feeding and treating other peoples poor.

Originally posted by KwisatzHaderach
reply to post by theubermensch

 

No offense sir but you have no clue what Americans are like. We fight with a volunteer army guess what would happen if someone actually attacked us..

The average southerner is better armed and better trained, (deer have better hearing and smell than humans) than most of the army's around the world. Americans aren't as stupid as were made out to be we're violent. If someone actually caused massive harm on U.S. Soil we would unify and slaughter every man, woman, and child. We could literally cover the entire country of Iran, with just the napalm we have. A little something you should remember when Americans get angry we forget about morals and ethics.

Which is exactly why as such you should not be trusted into any position of power. Your nation is easily emotionally compromised under your statement's logic. You aren't able to maintain a moral, ethical standard when under duress going by your statement.

Let's hope this isn't actually the case in reality, right?

reply to post by theubermensch


You are not a very bright bulb.......I am very much against my Country's foreign policies...but to be factual....Russia and China are not going to commit suicide over Iran. We, the U.S. of A could, if we so inclined, wipe Iran off the planet without any boots on the ground. Nobody with an ounce of intelligence would doubt that....Hate us if you want but don't make ignorant statements that we are either weak or cowards. We may be bullies...but you can't have it both ways.

reply to post by theubermensch


I think you're more upset because you live in some #-hole, third world country. America=Coward?!! Hardly. Read your history books and look up Pearl Harbor, Beirut etc. Whose the first country other nations look to when # goes down hill or they need our aid (money) or get rid of their opressive dictator. America. Name one country that comes to the aid of America when we have traumatic events that cause significant human loss or materials to rebuild. Noone. America is strong for a reason and you assholes that think you know, don't know. Crawl back to your mother's basement and do some research instead of speculating.

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Agreed.

Originally posted by Tw0Sides

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
After seeing these Military Drills....he made several statements that China was Multiple Decades behind the U.S. in all Military Branches.

Check this out! Split Infinity

Of course they are decades behind, the US defense budget could stop world hunger.

But war is better.

The United States produces more food than the entire world combined...We also donate more food than the entire world combined. Do you know what I want to do to the people that I occasionaly see selling donated food topoor starving people without guns? Do you know that these Religious Thugs want to extort money or even better...Young Boys for indoctrination into Suicidal Actions and these supposed Religious Scumbags have no problem Sexualy Abusing a Young Boy or treating him in a highly Sadomasochistic way as to shame him to rather seek death than be Gang raped by his religious teaches for another day...as they see no problem with Sodomy with a Young Boy but NOT SEX WITH AN UNMARRIED WOMAN! That would go to far in their eyes!

All the while huge piles of U.S. AID bags of grain are being sold tothe poor and starving and paid for with anything that these SCUM OF THE EARTH DEEM OF VALUE. I wish I could put a round in every single one of these Lower that Dirt...COWARDS who hide behind a religion as that is what they all are COWARDS!

When Cowards are confronted with Highly Trained Pro's who are trained not to get emotional but S#!% like this get's to anyone no matter how many times you have seen it...they do what ALL COWARDS DO! They see us...and they start to shake at the surprize and adrenaline...then I STINK fills the air as these COWARDS actually S#!@ their pants! Or urinate right there are we point our weapons at them..

One of the prodest moments of my life back in 1990...was having a Village Elder not be able to stop shaking my arm...as to their custom...they are much more on hands than Americans and feeings are brought right out in the open as long as the COWARDS have been delt with. I saw one of these cowards have his body torn piece by piece apart by Old Men, Women, Children and his eyes burned out with the tip of a smoldering campfire stick. I guess justice DOES evenually come. Split Infinity

Eh...I wouldn't say suicide..

None of us know the technology that the US acutally possess. Anti-gravity, x-ray vision, hearing through walls, unmaned robots and drones, super soliders, satelites, weather machines, are really just the start considering the major hub of science that comes out of the US and its allies.

Originally posted by theubermenschSince America is no longer feared I cant see any way forward for America. America is a coward but it is also deluded. I think they will continue to push Iran,Syria,Russia and China. I think the bully will be humiliated for all to see very soon.

You have to be on tilt to believe that America is not feared at this very moment. Even some Americans are in fear of the govt. It's definitely not a coward it's balls in your face. Of course they will continue to push because these people put themselves in the way. We are humiliated every day look at the Republican party candidates minus Ron Paul.

Regarding the rather murky understanding some seem to have regarding the circumstance of the U.S. withdrawal from Indochina, please allow me the indulgence of quoting myself from a previous thread where the subject was previously broached.

Although it is indisputable that the the Socialist Republic of Vietnam defeated the Republic of Vietnam in 1975, the situation surrounding the U.S. withdrawal under the Paris Peace Accords in 1973 was under favorable terms to the U.S.

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Vietnam is referenced ad nauseum as the textbook application of a successful asymmetric guerilla warfare campaign by the history channel crowd that as usual, couldn't be any more incorrect.

Very briefly, U.S. military involvement in Indochina was an example of what happens when a military power with essentially infinite resources loses the context of the purpose of war and the military as a political tool.

U.S. military involvement in S.E. Asia ended January 27, 1973 with the signing of the Paris Peace Accords, of which the North Vietnamese were more than eager signatories.

In Dec of 1972 the United States grew weary of stalled peace negotiations and issued an ultimatum that they unfortunately (for the Democratic Republic of Vietnam) chose to ignore.

What followed was the largest conventional bombing raids the world had seen since the 2nd world war and absolute devastation for the North.

"The Christmas bombings" as they were dubbed by the press saw the large scale strategic employment of the B-52's , in short Richard Nixon tasked the Strategic Air Command to do their job for the first time since the beginning of open hostilities in 1965.

The B-52's laid waste to the entire Northern infrastructure, they bombed the power-plants and factories, they mined Haiphong harbor essentially ending Soviet resupply. After the 5th day the North Vietnamese Air Force and Surface to Air defenses had ceased to exist defaulting total air superiority to the U.S.

In short,12 days of unrestricted strategic bombing brought the DRV to their knees and brought favorable peace terms for Indochina to the Nixon White House with the promise that unrestricted bombing would resume if the North pursued any further aggressions against the South.

Two and a half years later, all U.S. forces have been drawn down and sent home leaving only a token diplomatic contingent of Marines, the leadership in Hanoi (correctly) judged American resolve for any escalation of hostilities to be unacceptable. Taking advantage of domestic political turmoil, the NVA launched a conventional assault into Southern Vietnam.

President Gerald Ford in a televised speech on April 23rd 1975 declared an end to all U.S. aid to South Vietnam.

On April 29th Saigon fell and an estimated half million men,woman and children were butchered by the rampaging NVA

....and the rest is history.

The point being, when U.S. military doctrine was finally correctly applied by the strategists pulling the strings from dark cubby holes in the Pentagon, North Vietnam was asymmetrically bombed into the stone-age over a very brief and brutal 12 days.

Yeah it would be suicide. For Iran. After their nuclear power is wiped out and the troops land, they might as well surrender.

I'm always surprised at these threads. It was started in "Breaking News", and the OP started it as such, but then quickly trolled people here with the thread, derailing it from the actual news topic, to a off topic flame war....

.....for 8 pages now.

Have not any of you heard the old saying "Don't Feed The Trolls." ? (and their are several here).

Any thread that pretty much has the OP saying "I hate such-n-such country!" and then proceeds to call them names, should be a very OBVIOUS attempt at starting a flame war.

As busy as the mods on here are, this thing has been going on for almost 12 hours now, and while I don't think the thread should be locked, I do believe it should have been moved by now to the "Rant" section, unless the mods think they can get it back on topic (which is the actual news article, and not "Why I Love To Call Americans Names and Hate Them.").