Obama Supporters...Remember This List When You Vote This Year.

reply to post by biggmoneyme


There are 2 political parties in the US; the Republocrats and the Dempublicans.

Originally posted by 3dman7
I'm working on my list for GeeDubya......please be patient, it's gonna take a while....I'm on "147. Let 9/11 happen" now.

edit on 31-1-2012 by 3dman7 because: (no reason given)

Is this the default argument to Obama?

Why not bring up the policies of Ulysses Grant or Lincoln, sine we're in the past? I can easily make a list about Bush too. I opposed Bush as much if not MORE than Obama, but Bush is retired to a ranch somewhere and giving 'advice' to people for a fee....how the hell is he relevant to this topic?

Originally posted by Swills
reply to post by PaxVeritas

 

Operation Cast Lead I just learned about recently. Talk about a massacre!

Also Google:

Lavon Affair, 2006 Lebanon War, USS Liberty, The Irgun, King David Hotel Bombing...for starters.

You guys can spend all day writing your little lists to compete on who the worst president was but it won't matter. It is just more pissing into the wind. Stop arguing about who is better or worse and start working to make changes. It is very easy to be armchair political analysts.
The truth is they are ALL worth nothing. The President of the United States of America is merely a show piece. He/she/it has no real power. The office does what it is told by the corporate/industrial/military complex. We are more the United Military of Ameri(insertfavoritecorporatename)ica than the USA now.. Once you realize that you will cease this silly arguing over who has done the most harm.
It doesn't matter who you vote for. It hasn't mattered for 100 years. Wars will be fought and soldiers will die because that is what the Corporate elite want. Violence sells. It also keeps costs down overseas so we can get our worthless junk from walmart cheaper. Keep this in mind the next time you just have to have that new dvd, or ass scratcher, or whatever it is you people seem to need all the time, YOU are funding the bloodshed of innocents. YOU are funding the furthering of oppression. YOU, by dint of your apathy, are allowing the destruction of this country.

reply to post by Hawkmoon1972


Wise words brother, we can make peaceful change, we just got to get involved!
I hope you are getting involved at some level to make change if so, star for you, if not slap yourself on the back of the hand!
brice

reply to post by brice


I am involved in a few campaigns and grass roots political organizations but mostly I vote with my dollar. I refuse to shop and any big box store. I don't have for cable. The only things I directly pay for that aren't local is my fuel and and internet service. I do not fund companies like nike, walmart, and best buy. I try very hard to avoid all of the other huge corporate entities. I always shop for my food at locally owned stores, I almost always eat at locally owned restaurants.
The best way to defeat them is not with guns or bombs. It is with money. If we all refused to drive for one week and refused to shop anywhere but in our own locally owned stores and stopped buying into the American drive to own and consume everything in sight we would crush them in short order.

Originally posted by PaxVeritas

Originally posted by 3dman7
I'm working on my list for GeeDubya......please be patient, it's gonna take a while....I'm on "147. Let 9/11 happen" now.

edit on 31-1-2012 by 3dman7 because: (no reason given)

Is this the default argument to Obama?

Why not bring up the policies of Ulysses Grant or Lincoln, sine we're in the past? I can easily make a list about Bush too. I opposed Bush as much if not MORE than Obama, but Bush is retired to a ranch somewhere and giving 'advice' to people for a fee....how the hell is he relevant to this topic?

He's relevant because, when he first went into office he saw that we, the U.S., had money in the bank. He says, "this is the people's money!" and writes everybody a check......As he was leaving office, he was on teevee with that scared-#less look on his face saying "we've gotta give the banks eight hundered billion dollars or were done for!".....and everything in between including two unnecessary wars and the costs incurred with them..... He practically destroyed us and,lots of folks here seem to want that style of "leadership" back.

Does it really matter who we put in there anymore?

Originally posted by Ghost375

Originally posted by satoriku
reply to post by Ghost375

 

Um, NDAA? yes it does.

No it doesn't...

Also, Bush - 8 years in office = 575 troop deaths in Afghanistan
Obama - not quite 4 years in office = 1275 deaths
... and you are saying troops are safer under Obama. Okaaaaaaay.

That wasn't what I was saying...but aren't most of them home now?

The troops are out of Iraq (except for embassy guards and staff, possibly some trainers and contractors).

In Afgahnistan there are about 100,000 troops. On Average during the Bush years there was usually less then 20,000 troops. While as many as 30,000 US troops may come home in the coming months, right now troops are slated to be in Afgahnisatan till 2014.

I am not trying to spite you or anything..........but that's classic of an Obama supporter (I don't know if you are) and the majority of American's knowledge about what's going on in the world. "Aren't most of them home by now???" REALLY!!!!

afghanistan.blogs.cnn.com...

Voting either for the ass or the giant elephant in the room wont matter. You still got a house full of corrputed fools linked to the same olive branch carried by the eagle. But whos the eagle? When sean combs started that vote or die campaign it gave me a twisted idea for a slogan. Vote and die. It seems better than vote or die. That sounds more threatening.

reply to post by PaxVeritas
Your right on with everyone and more like you say but thats just Obama, the Obama's of the world come and go and we are about to put a white Obama in his place, soooo my point being is that its not the Obamas of the world that you should concern yourself with but the people that put them in charge...........of what ever, this time the PEOPLE put this flaming socialist idiot in as the President of the United States.

To quote a Czech Republic paper in Prague, and this is just part of the full quote: Blaming the prince of fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him there prince. The republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of Idiots such as those who made him there president.

So how do you change the minds of the 50% that look to the Obama's of this country for there handouts ?

While we were a sleep in our American dream homes the country became something else.You might want to enlighten your self on what the U.S. has become rather then blaming a symptom llike Obama or Bush or soon Romney.It may scare the hell out of you.............it does me.

Just a thought.

you can substitute romney's or newts name for obama's and the exact same list applies.

Originally posted by randomname
you can substitute romney's or newts name for obama's and the exact same list applies.

Pretty close.

And if you go and watch the 2008 debates between Obama and McCain, they were practically IDENTICAL on all their stances.

What most people will think of when they vote for Obama will be how many promises he kept from the time he ran for office.

From Politifact

reply to post by Wookiep


At least is was money that put a lot of people back to work, saved our automotive industry and saved the free world from going into a depression.
Bush on the other hand made trillions of dollars disappear from the pentagon that can no longer be traced. That single act alone nearly killed our economy.
But whatever happens next election we will get the government we deserve!
brice

reply to post by PaxVeritas


That's not to say that I don't "believe" in him or anything like that.

I think Ron is capable of being an excellent president but, it's up to the voters to put him there now and the MSM absolutely refuses to give him a fair shake when it comes to coverage.

Originally posted by brice
reply to post by Wookiep

 

At least is was money that put a lot of people back to work, saved our automotive industry and saved the free world from going into a depression.
Bush on the other hand made trillions of dollars disappear from the pentagon that can no longer be traced. That single act alone nearly killed our economy.
But whatever happens next election we will get the government we deserve!
brice

Not to sound rude, but do you mean the "2 million" jobs he tried bragging about at the SOTU address which represents less than 1% of the population? He took money (non-existent) from the federal reserve (like all other establishment candidates) and really ran with it in a completely out of control fashion. He didn't save anyone from this depression lol, we are now 15 trillion in debt and now he wants to raise the debt ceiling another 1.2 trillion more. (and he'll get it.) If you or anyone else thinks we won't end up paying dearly for these actions, then this nation is in for a rude awakening in the not so distant future.

You are right however, that whatever happens next, we do deserve it. It's just too bad most people don't understand why.

reply to post by Wookiep


Thank you for reading my post and responding Wookie. If you had the 1.2 trillion dollars to run the United States what would you do? The only stipulation is you can't do what G.W. did and make it disappear, you actually have to try to make things better. Give it a go.
brice

reply to post by PaxVeritas


So I'm supposed to keep a list of crazy conspiracy theories, rumors, and misinformation in mind while I vote for Obama???

Will do...I'll remember that I live in reality and appreciate facts instead of conspiracy theories and misinformation.


Unbelievable people still think the wallstreet bailout was under Obama.

Originally posted by buster2010
What most people will think of when they vote for Obama will be how many promises he kept from the time he ran for office.

From Politifact

How dare you show facts.

You are supposed to believe that Obama broke every single promise he ever made...you know...deny ignorance and stuff.