Anonymous downs government, music industry sites in largest attack ever

reply to post by Swills


Sorry bout that, didn't bother to search since it said Sunday Jan 29 2012 on the source link. Must haven been an error in the article.

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I will not give you break. You can assume all you want it doesn't make it fact. Just so you know, the military has their own hackers as well.

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It happens. Your articles source is an older RT article

Originally posted by Swills
reply to post by Manhater

 

I will not give you break. You can assume all you want it doesn't make it fact. Just so you know, the military has their own hackers as well.

Okay. And not one hacker can possibly be better than the other hacker? Whatever. Doesn't matter who employed them, it's a matter of, who is better at it.

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You're not listening to me. It's not about who the better hacker is, it's about access & civilians don't have access to any high side (aka Classified intranet) therefore they will never hack it. For that to happen they literally have to sneak onto a US military base & then somehow sneak their way onto a classified PC. It won't happen.

Originally posted by Manhater
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These so called annoyances can hack a government computer. Let's take it a step further to nuclear weapons, drones and etc... Do you not think they can hack into that? That makes them more dangerous. Right now, it's just simple petty stuff. But what if, they take it a step further. They can knock a whole internet power grid if they wanted too.

I see others have addressed this part, so i'll just leave that alone.

They didn't annoy people? They broke into hard working people's banking accounts.

And did they steal anything? What they actually did was break into the bank database and has access to account numbers and the like, nothing harmful was done, its just an annoyance that some script kiddies had access to some semi-personal information.

Originally posted by Swills
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You're not listening to me. It's not about who the better hacker is, it's about access & civilians don't have access to any high side (aka Classified intranet) therefore they will never hack it. For that to happen they literally have to sneak onto a US military base & then somehow sneak their way onto a classified PC. It won't happen.

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You are not getting it.

Simple and plain.

What if a worker is government and releases information claiming to be Anonymous?
Information has already been released. They had the access.

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Gee, let's let them steal money from your account, and let me know if it's acceptable. This wasn't the business that they stole from. It was people, who worked their ass off, that they stole from. But, you think, it's okay.

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In the past situations have happened where military intel ppl have sold information and they were caught & major changes were made to prevent future leaks. Those who have access to sensitive info have clearances ranging from confidential to TopSecret & beyond, & these clearances arent given out without a thorough background search. Also the penalty for leaking/selling info is life in military prison. So no one in such a position will leak anythih to Anon.

I know this because I had a T'S clearance while working in military intel from 2001-2006 as an USN CTO. Stop worrying about Anon or any other civilian hacker. I'm done arguing with you.

Originally posted by Manhater
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Gee, let's let them steal money from your account, and let me know if it's acceptable. This wasn't the business that they stole from. It was people, who worked their ass off, that they stole from. But, you think, it's okay.

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Nothing was stolen. Period. You are operating on the assumption of what could happen, or might happen.
But hasnt happened. Of coourse stealing money from an acct is wrong, and a crime. But so is accessing the info without permission, and violating the secure banking system. Members of Anon are criminals.

But many other groups of criminals could do this or it might happen by other means.
And for the record, I never said it was ok. Its wrong, they are criminals and should be prosecuted.

Please don't put words in my mouth because you disagree with the fact that I think Anon are a bunch annoying pests.

Originally posted by Swills
I'm done arguing with you.

Best thing I've heard all day, I second that.

Originally posted by Swills
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In the past situations have happened where military intel ppl have sold information and they were caught & major changes were made to prevent future leaks. Those who have access to sensitive info have clearances ranging from confidential to TopSecret & beyond, & these clearances arent given out without a thorough background search. Also the penalty for leaking/selling info is life in military prison. So no one in such a position will leak anythih to Anon.

I know this because I had a T'S clearance while working in military intel from 2001-2006 as an USN CTO. Stop worrying about Anon or any other civilian hacker. I'm done arguing with you.

ANON is anybody. Can be military, politician, civilian, LE. Blah blah blah...

Anon- is someone, you can not define, definitely.

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now you're grasping for straws

Think what you want and continue to live in you pananoid delusions.

Originally posted by Swills
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now you're grasping for straws

Think what you want and continue to live in you pananoid delusions.

Underestimate their power. Doesn't bother me a bit. Their a lot smarter then you. And have more patience to take it a lot further than you think.

Done arguing with you. If you can't see what I'm trying to say, than it's not my problem. Just giving you my 2 cents about the ANON situation.

Originally posted by Manhater

Originally posted by Swills
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In the past situations have happened where military intel ppl have sold information and they were caught & major changes were made to prevent future leaks. Those who have access to sensitive info have clearances ranging from confidential to TopSecret & beyond, & these clearances arent given out without a thorough background search. Also the penalty for leaking/selling info is life in military prison. So no one in such a position will leak anythih to Anon.

I know this because I had a T'S clearance while working in military intel from 2001-2006 as an USN CTO. Stop worrying about Anon or any other civilian hacker. I'm done arguing with you.

ANON is anybody. Can be military, politician, civilian, LE. Blah blah blah...

Anon- is someone, you can not define, definitely.

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Considering they spend about a week on any given crusade and then jump to something else I am pretty sure ANON is nothing more than bored teenagers who really do not care enough to commit to any particular cause and instead jump on whatever seems to new to have some fun. I can think of no other reason on why they would fail to ever follow up on anything.

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They're smarter than me? Are they smarter than you? Are they smarter than a KG-84A (google it)? They're are not smarter than a KG-84A & they will not "get" to anyone who has a clearance & everything to lose. Anon is great a shutting down a website on the Internet for a few hours & hacking servers for unclassified info (at best it's confidential, aka personal info), that's it. I know how the military intel side works & I've explained it to you over & over again. Accept the fact you are not a hacker & know nothing about anything you've posted. You know about Anon from their videos and what you read in the news.

Bottom line, you nothing. Good day!

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Keep living in your fantasy world. Have a good one. When they break into your bank account I don't want to hear you crying or sobbing.

Originally posted by Manhater
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Keep living in your fantasy world. Have a good one. When they break into your bank account I don't want to hear you crying or sobbing.

Why would he cry or sob the bank will correct the error and pay him back. Of course if they were waste time doing that then it really would prove that they are nothing more than bored teenagers.

Originally posted by MrSpad
These are guy sure have gotten boring. I mean at first when you though they would do something they were kind of interesting. Now you know they take down a web page for a few hours and then declare victory it makes them seem kind of lame.

I kinda agree But however i disagree with your opinion.

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else I am pretty sure ANON is nothing more than bored teenagers who really do not care enough to commit to any particular cause and instead jump on whatever seems to new to have some fun.


Really? So you want SOPA,PIPA to pass? or ACTA to pass?

Originally posted by purplemer
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If you're gonna break something to make a point, make sure they have to work to fix it.

No that is the difference between wanton destruction and protest... The online protests for the most part remain peaceful...

So long as I only key the car instead of flipping it over and torching it, im ok then?

Quit making excuses for these children. Wanton destruction is the person deciding to actually cause damage to something. Protest is non violent assembly of people with similar problems demanding a redress of grievances from the government.

Maybe, while they are bringing down government websites, they can head on over to the online dictionary and actually learn what protesting is, along with wanton destruction.

The online protests that are bringing down websites are not peaceful. Contrary to the insular and blinded views by some, there are people who must use those websites. So while they bring down a government website, they are denying its use to people who are not employed by the government and are regular citizens needing to use its services.

When the children grow up they will realize their actions hurt the very people they claim to be representing. If they had real jobs and didnt have their lives subsidized by their parents they might understand what the real world is like.

When they are done throwing their temper tantrum because they have to pay for music / software that someone else made, let us know. If they truly believe in communal property, regardless of who created it, I hear Venezuela is a great country to live in. Just recently Chavez threatened private banks with nationalization if they didnt support his communal farm jobs plan.

Sounds like the perfect place for the children throwing the temper tantrum a great place to learn a lesson.