A little poll for registered US voters.

Now that it's pretty clear to everyone here on ATS that Ron Paul won't get the nod, what's your plan?

a) Vote Republican (Newt or Mitt)
b) Vote Obama
c) Don't Vote
d) Something else (please explain)

Can we just try and have a little poll, without too much arguing (for a few hours at least :lol?

FTR: I'm voting "b".

I prolly shouldn't post this at 430AM in the US. One day I'll learn.

A) republican.
Only because I know what 4 more years of Obama will be like. I can only hope that the GOP will be better.

C because A & B are all the same vote

A [color=dodgerblue]DEMOCRAT... because I SAW what the last REPUBLICAN did to the country during his 8 years in office..

...and what his Daddy did to it during his term...

...and what one would do NOW to it with an economy that is finally turning around due to being under a [color=dodgerblue]Democrat's watch thankfully.

Funny how its always a [color=dodgerblue]Democrat President who comes in and turns things around, eh?

Funny how its always the republican in the office of President who make a huge MESS for the country.

Therefore why I vote [color=dodgerblue]Democrat.

Because I am SICK OF republican MESSES. Messing up our economy, messing up our country, messing up our jobs, and messing up and shrinking our middle-class, and on and on...

SICK of it.

Originally posted by beezzer
A) republican.
Only because I know what 4 more years of Obama will be like. I can only hope that the GOP will be better.

edit on 29-1-2012 by beezzer because: (no reason given)

Just a quick insertion: we saw what the GOP did for 8 YEARS!!

Not to mention the 4 DREADFUL years during the previous republican's term... his daddy.

DId you somehow MISS all that? Skipped your mind?

We have seen the GOP in action. Any more action from them will ruin the country for good.

reply to post by captainnotsoobvious


May I ask what makes it "pretty clear"?

There have been what? 3 or 4 Primaries? Out of 50!!! Thats not even 10% so how is it "pretty clear"? Delegates for Iowa have not even voted yet and it is no secret that Ron Paul may very well win Iowa. Many publications put out articles about it. Just google, "Ron Paul may have secretly won Iowa" (which was the title of the articles which discussed it) to get an idea of what happened there with the delegates.

Originally posted by HangTheTraitors

Originally posted by beezzer
A) republican.
Only because I know what 4 more years of Obama will be like. I can only hope that the GOP will be better.

edit on 29-1-2012 by beezzer because: (no reason given)

Just a quick insertion: we saw what the GOP did for 8 YEARS!!

DId you somehow MISS that? Skipped your mind?

edit on 29-1-2012 by HangTheTraitors because: (no reason given)

Nope. I'm aware. I've also seen what Obama has done in 3+ years. And no-one could be worse than another 4 of Obama.

reply to post by MrWendal


I... I could be rude here, but will try not to be...

The reality is that Paul has no chance... he doesn't poll well in any of the major states (he's not even trying in Florida for instance). He's even said he doesn't expect to win.

So, if that's not obvious to you, then... you're gonna be in for a series of pretty depressing events.

Sorry, man, it's ain't happening.

reply to post by beezzer


Well that's obviously not true.

reply to post by HangTheTraitors


Your so funny!!!

Maybe you are not aware of this, but allow me to point out that economic policy that is put into place usually shows no effects until after the sitting President leaves Office.

The things Obama has done, if he were to not get a second term, will actually be felt during the first term of the new President. I can not stand Obama, but not everything is his fault. A lot of what is happening are due to Bush Policies. The problem here however is that Obama literally continued those same Policies.

I may be wrong, I am sure there are members here MUCH more educated than me on economics, but that is the way it was explained to me many many years ago.

Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
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Well that's obviously not true.

You asked the question.
I provided an answer and an explanation.

So you refute my opinion on a thread where you asked for it?

reply to post by beezzer


If you read the OP closely you'll note I never asked for your opinion on Obama. And yeah, blanket statements are pretty easy to refute.

Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
reply to post by beezzer

 

If you read the OP closely you'll note I never asked for your opinion on Obama. And yeah, blanket statements are pretty easy to refute.

Apologies. I only provided an explanation for my vote.


Didn't realize there was an underlying issue involved with this thread.

Good day.

reply to post by beezzer


No underlying issue. Just correcting you on your mischaracterization of my OP. Express other opinions if you must, but don't expect me to agree with them.

Ron Paul has to be on the voting ballet. To not be on the ballet at any cost, would be a statement that the he had never possessed a true intention of fighting for the cause he claims to fight for.


If he has any true intention to fix his government and the sole way of making that happen is by being elected president of his government, then he will have to be on the election ballet at any cost.

He cannot say he has a desire to fix his countries broken government, but only if he can represent a political party. If that is his statement, then he has no true desire to represent the people of his country and his government. Which would make him no better than any other worthless corrupt politician. For some it is sad to say I suppose, never the less it is the truth.

To give so many so much hope only to turn his back on them in such a manner will be another spirit breaker for the american people. But breaking the spirit of the people is truly what they do best.


Now with that said, I would personally be voting for whichever candidate shows the most promise of igniting the new great war, or World War III as so many like to call it.

reply to post by captainnotsoobvious


I have never been affiliated with any political party; voting instead for the person. Over my voting life I have voted for Democrats, Republicans, even Green party...

Given the current, obvious philosophy of the GOP - to protect and further enrich the rich at any cost - there is no freaking way I will vote for one of the current GOP "candidates".

I'm not interested in repeating the policies of the Bush administration, which are largely responsible for the current mess (some reasons reach back to before W). To the current crop of GOP, "debt reduction" is to be done on the backs of the middle class, and no thanks, I've paid my share and then some.

"Strong national defense" means they plan on starting more wars, and I never hear any of the so-called "serious" GOP types talk about cutting spending on military adventurism. So no thanks there, either.

"Promoting jobs" is code for removing all restrictions on big business, so air, water and food quality will decline even further. No thanks.

And every ecomonic plan they come up with is clearly designed to further enrich themselves, at the cost of everybody else. No thanks.

Further, since Obama took, office, the GOP has conducted an obvious campaign of opposition to anything he does, without regard to whether what he wanted to do was in the interest for the country or not. That is obstructionism in its purest, most vile form, and that behavior has done nothing to improve the smell of the GOP.

Obama has not been as effective as I would have liked him to be, largely due to his attempts to actually work with the GOP, which was doomed to failure from the start.

Obama is a centrist, and all the frenzy raised by the GOP and its minions, 99.9% of which is pure BS has not helped the GOP either in my book.

So. Given that the policies of the GOP are directly traceable to our current economic mess, and given that said policies tend to start more wars and further drive up the debt and further degrade US position in the world, and given that the representatives of the GOP lie in practically everything they say, and given the current crowd of clowns posing as GOP presidential candidates, my vote will be going to Obama.

It is possible someone else will come along for whom I'll change my vote, but given the state of the country in general and the GOP in particular, I doubt it.

This country is headed for a crash, and it is due to the policies of Democrats and Republicans both.

Sad thing is, still stuck in the trap of voting for the least bad. There are plenty of things about Obama I do not like. But he is orders of magnitude better than anything else in sight at the moment.

reply to post by emberscott


Umm... RP is a little bit too old for ballet.

reply to post by captainnotsoobvious


Yes, and a frilly pink tutu isn't really his style.

But to answer your OP, I would be voting D, other. Write-in.

I agree with everything in your post except this sentence.

Originally posted by Open_Minded Skeptic
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This country is headed for a crash, and it is due to the policies of Democrats and Republicans both.