The trumpets of God

If these are supposed to be the almighty world trembling sounds of revelation they would seem to be a disappointment.

Is god on a budget? He needs to talk to Michael Bay, he creates horrifying spectacles at least once a year.

The real argument to be had is not the sound of the noise but whether we are to BELIEVE that actual trumpets are the source and not flugelhorns, cornets, tubas and other brass instruments. I know tubas are much heavier and less convenient to carry while flying but as we all know, angels can do most anything.

And since it's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the bible is the literal words of god and not a collection of books and writings written and compiled by man, I guess we have to take trumpets to mean trumpets in the end.

It's too bad since the flugelhorn has such a beautiful sound. Flutes would be just silly though.

Here's the deal OP.

When a child is born, it comes into the world with pure awareness & a mind ready to start cataloging experience. Parents & society then begin to add "knowledge" to the child's mind, filtered through their own bias, fear, experience, feelings, beliefs. It happens today just as it's been happening for ages. The child grows and adapts and if they get the chance to question things without being shutdown emotionally or physically, they then have the chance to learn the truth about their world. The dogma, belief and tradition start to crumble under the weight of reality and the mind begins to come back to a point of awareness rather than a state of belief.

You and your aunt can argue all day about trumpets, parting of seas, and other greater or lesser biblical events. But start to understand the human psychology and learn by understanding and exploring self and ego--using life as a mirror, then your Revelation questions become nearly irrelevant to your present moment. Your eyes become opened to a real peace that surpasses all understanding and your begin to realize that the program is like using DOS in a Linux world. Break down your paradigms and don't be afraid of nonconforming to current belief.

I was lucky to get the equivalent of a PhD in theology and religion starting from day one. I prayed for three things my whole life: wisdom, understanding & discernment. That single prayer took me on a forty-plus year journey and ultimately the god I was praying to was destroyed in the process. The symbol for god should be a question mark. I don't doubt in mystery and beings, creators and powers beyond us. I do, however understand human wiring enough to know that much like the b.s. we sift through today via politics & news is the same regardless of the era. Learn to quiet the chatter mind and operate from a point of consciousness and the illusions start to fade fast.

Peace & love (not angels and trumpets)

Originally posted by Evanzsayz
reply to post by rbnhd76

 

don't you know you can't post your Bible stuff on here

Is that why there is a religion forum on this site?

Guess you missed the part of his post where he turns the sarcasm off after saying that.

If the trumpets are real, everyone will hear them physically.

Originally posted by daaskapital
Why are you and your aunt arguing about the trumpets? How do you know that God announces things physically? In my opinion, he can do whatever he wants, he doesn't have to follow your thoughts. It sounds like you are believing what you want to believe on this one. Sorry.

edit on 28-1-2012 by daaskapital because: eta

The bolded part sounds like religion.

2nd due to ATS requirements

Predictions & Prophecies: This forum is for the discussion of published clairvoyant predictions from contemporary psychics and "prophets" as well as ancient prophecies and prognostications. This forum is not intended as a venue to post your personal predictions.

I believe this falls under "ancient prophecies"

It's interesting to see how todays christians accept "The revelation" as "fact" and the inspired word of God, when even many EARLY CHURCH FATHERS rejected it and it was not accepted as inspired until a much later time.

It is in fact a writ by an anonymous author who based his writings on those of Daniel, and changed them slightly to incorporate Jesus in them.

As for 7 trumpets:

Well, there is actually only ONE trumpet - and that is the destruction of the universe - then another one, when everybody is resurrected. - But that is another topic.

Regarding the sounds: I do not think these qualify neither as the 7 trumpets nor as the one.

If the sounds are real, they would qualify more as another prophecy. But that one is not from the Bible.

I don't think it has anything to do with any religion or bible mumbo jumbo. I've heard the sky quakes too. I'm on the west coast and there's a lot of talk about it. It isn't the second coming of christ or anything to do with the bible. It's to do with the atmosphere and global warming. Why is it when anything to do with the weather all the religious freaks come out?

I'm not sure about the history of the word trumpet.
I'm not sure how it was meant in the Bible way back then.
Trumpet could just be a loud noise that introduces something.

If I were in 2000bc and I heard a UFO, and trumpet was the closest thing I knew to that sound, I might call it a trumpet. KWIM?

But really, I don't think it's the end of the world Revelations. That doesn't mean though that ancient people living in earthquake zones might not have learned that these loud sounds came before mass destruction.

reply to post by hadriana

What matters for Revelation interpretation is not the sound itself, but the significance of the sound.
For the ancient world, the main purpose of the trumpet was to give a signal.
What John sees in his vision is a symbolic event which tells him that a signal has been given.
But I agree with you that there's no reason to connect the reported "strange sounds" to the Revelation visions, where the trumpets have a different context.

Originally posted by sHuRuLuNi
It's interesting to see how todays christians accept "The revelation" as "fact" and the inspired word of God, when even many EARLY CHURCH FATHERS rejected it and it was not accepted as inspired until a much later time.

It is in fact a writ by an anonymous author who based his writings on those of Daniel, and changed them slightly to incorporate Jesus in them.

As for 7 trumpets:

Well, there is actually only ONE trumpet - and that is the destruction of the universe - then another one, when everybody is resurrected. - But that is another topic.

Regarding the sounds: I do not think these qualify neither as the 7 trumpets nor as the one.

If the sounds are real, they would qualify more as another prophecy. But that one is not from the Bible.

WHere is your proof.

Originally posted by shell310
It isn't the second coming of christ or anything to do with the bible. It's to do with the atmosphere and global warming. Why is it when anything to do with the weather all the religious freaks come out?

Because God controls the weather.

Proof From the Bible

We forget this because we've been sold the lie that we are the master of our planet and its atmosphere.
We are not all that powerful, we are merely human.
Nobody wants to admit that, however. They would rather blame HAARP and chemtrails.

We would rather live in a world that think we control, because if there's somebody else at the switch, then maybe we might have to listen to him.

Originally posted by osirys

Originally posted by shell310
It isn't the second coming of christ or anything to do with the bible. It's to do with the atmosphere and global warming. Why is it when anything to do with the weather all the religious freaks come out?

Because God controls the weather.

Proof From the Bible

We forget this because we've been sold the lie that we are the master of our planet and its atmosphere.
We are not all that powerful, we are merely human.
Nobody wants to admit that, however. They would rather blame HAARP and chemtrails.

We would rather live in a world that think we control, because if there's somebody else at the switch, then maybe we might have to listen to him.

edit on 30/1/2012 by osirys because: (no reason given)

God is master of the sky.
HAARP, chemtrails and weather mod. are def. real though.
These people think they can control nature but God will soon show us all that HE is in control.

Originally posted by curious7

Originally posted by Evanzsayz
reply to post by rbnhd76

 

don't you know you can't post your Bible stuff on here

Is that why there is a religion forum on this site?

Guess you missed the part of his post where he turns the sarcasm off after saying that.

If the trumpets are real, everyone will hear them physically.

Guess you missed the part where I was just giving him a hard time, internet police. No nobody will hear the trumpets but the people who are supposed to hear them.

Seven times in the Greek Scriptures, and only from the lips of Jesus, there occurs the expression "If any man have ears to hear, let him hear!"

Originally posted by CaptainNemo

Originally posted by osirys

Originally posted by shell310
It isn't the second coming of christ or anything to do with the bible. It's to do with the atmosphere and global warming. Why is it when anything to do with the weather all the religious freaks come out?

Because God controls the weather.

Proof From the Bible

We forget this because we've been sold the lie that we are the master of our planet and its atmosphere.
We are not all that powerful, we are merely human.
Nobody wants to admit that, however. They would rather blame HAARP and chemtrails.

We would rather live in a world that think we control, because if there's somebody else at the switch, then maybe we might have to listen to him.

edit on 30/1/2012 by osirys because: (no reason given)

God is master of the sky.
HAARP, chemtrails and weather mod. are def. real though.
These people think they can control nature but God will soon show us all that HE is in control.

why is god a he.. if "he" is in control, then that means we have no free will??

As for the trumpets... like all things in the bible, its just outdated.. if it was a real prophecy they should have said sub-woofer amplifiers