Moon: inexplicable phenomena. Luna Cognita video.

Really people have some common sense. Who of you have checked those pictures with original ones on Nasa website. All the photos displayed in this youtube movie, were doctored. It is obvious that pictures made with hasselblad camera will have some image defects like white lines or dots. And this youtuber just enhanced them to give everyone who watch his movie, an impression that these are of alien origin.
If anyone want i can compare his photos with the original ones.

How would determine what is extraterestrial when this junk is floating around our planet?


It's like a tourism brochure for a lot of countries. You only see the clean and beautified places because they crop out the reality? That's probably why they photoshop the crap out of the images. Imagine the damage that's been done up there? Could be half the reason for global warming if that's what your into...

Who's to say? If there were aliens or white puffs of oddity getting around up there, and our government doesn't want us to know about it, what's stopping them puffs from coming down here and making an introduction already?

Originally posted by never2late
I don't reply very often but this post needed a, Thank You, for sharing. Very interesting post, I'm kind of a sucker for anything like this about the moon.

Yep,..'they' got you...hook, line and sinker. LOL

Just kiddin'.

When I was about 16 years old in 1980 there was an interview with this dutch old farmer on national dutch television and he was asked what he did think of the moonlandings. I can still hear his teethless mouth jabbing and laughing about how this can not be and is impossible.

As much as he laughed at the idea, I laughed at him for being so ignorant.

Last month I had three teeth pulled from my jaw and on my way to become teethless.....And as we speak I become more convinced that there is something 'they' are not telling us about these moonlandings. I am about to jump on the 'fake Apollo 11 moonlanding' bandwagon.

I am still not sure if all moonlandings were fake and that elements in the US government have the nerve to commit such huge lies on such a hugh organised scale

Anyways...maybe wisdom and insight come when all the teeth are gone...

reply to post by Arken

"Something" is up there for a very long long time and "someone" is hiding this.

I think it is important that you say this. There are certain factions that operate within the agencies that like to keep secrets. NASA has developed KeepOut Zones on the moon. There are certain factions within NASA who don't want us to know. These factions could even operate outside their mandate and they probably do things like :
have the CIA censor all lunar and Apollo imagery
hide 700+ boxes of Apollo telemetry tapes from Accession #69A4099
create fake lunar mission transcripts with the help of Hollywood or Walt Disney

That's why it is important to say "someone" ie, certain factions, are hiding the facts about the moon. Maybe this is why the current NASA administrator is an ex-military general (and an ex-astronaut) who as experience in no-fly zones?

Originally posted by judus


We know how massive and vast the universe is and too think that we are alone is mathematically impossible.

It's not mathematically impossible. Improbable..yes. Impossible...no.

reply to post by TrixXxtaR


Your assessment does not surprise me in the slightest.
If "Luna Cognita" puts his name to anything, in my experience it is genuine and undoctored footage.
His You-tube channel is full of little gems like this and everyone who is a fan of this forum should know his name.


PEACE,
RK

reply to post by Arken


You have to realise that ther's all sorts of rubbish and junk floating out there..

Most gets caught in the Earths gravity and pulled into decaying orbit.. Some I would imagine gets loose though and a lot of bits and peices from moon exploration missions also. The moon havse low gravity and no atmosephere to make things burn up, so object caught in it's gravity will just gently make their way to the surface with momentum created by the pull, they might just float across the surface for centuries..

Not everything is an alien or a spaceship...lol

Originally posted by piotrburz
It is obvious that pictures made with hasselblad camera will have some image defects like white lines or dots.

As far as I am aware, Hasselblad TLR cameras were the very top of the line, please explain in photographic terminology how it is "obvious" that pictures made with these will have the "artefacts" you describe.

And this youtuber just enhanced them to give everyone who watch his movie, an impression that these are of alien origin.

Another ATS member wrote......

Originally posted by TrixXxtaR
Well, from an experienced animator, producer and videographer's point of view these clips are 100% genuine.

I could not begin to explain what the objects in question are. I would not jump to the conclusion it's little green men. I also wouldnt jump to the conclusion it's a natural phenomena.

Whatever it is, it's got me thinking!

S+F!

So TrixXxtaR says she has looked at the clips and in her "learned" opinion, they are genuine.....

If anyone want i can compare his photos with the original ones.

edit on 27-1-2012 by piotrburz because: (no reason given)

If you have the time, I would like to see that comparison
cheers,

PEACE,
RK

reply to post by W3RLIED2

IMO the reason you can't see stars in so many NASA photos is because they religiously edit them out.

Hm, if this is the case would it not be logical to conclude that they either edited those ufos in or the ufos are there and NASA want us to see them ?

Thanks for the link by the way

Well another thread of luna incognita drivel for the masses on here that cant seen to spot the mistakes in his claims and also have it seems no understanding of photography or digital imaging and science in general.

There are a few things on that video were luna incognita seems to shot himself in the foot with, now as I am out and about, I will post my reasons later when I download his guff and capture some stills!

Like this quote here

Originally posted by Illustronic
reply to post by jaws1975

 

A high school education in physics says so. At least that kind of education the way it was back in the mid 70's, can't really comment on what its like today, I do wonder however reading these pages.

I went through my high school education at this time and from what I have seen pass marks have got lower kids are not allowed to fail thats a total joke and judging by comments made by people oh here the above quote is backed up by real evidence not just on this type of thread but many others

AS13-61-8795 in the movie is same as in nasa site, but the object that is supposedly "ufo" it's nothing more than a piece of dirt caught during the photo developing[or an artifact made by reversing negative photos, the really white spots, turn into very black ones]
AS13-61-8728 there were similar object on the right of the main object. And they hadn't cast a shadow. You can also clearly see it was taken inside a lunar module, so it could be also a piece of dirt, and the shadow is there due to the reflection from the window's glass.
The next pictures-same story, either developing artifacts or some dirt.
AS11-43-6370 look up on the darkened area. Lot of white spots and lines, and he deliberately show only one. As stated above-artifact in developing.
LO3-84M -can't find a photo of such quality as seen in movie, but i can assure that so-called "tower/spire" is nothing more than processing artifact, you can't zoom indefinitely!
as10-35-5249 -again white dots, could be a cosmic ray passing through emulsion.
Surprisingly this picture[history.nasa.gov...] shows nothing, curious maybe NASA has cleaned the noise, but UFO believers will take it as a coverup.
AS13-61-8786, cosmic ray can produce blue or white dots[en.wikipedia.org...]
as08-16-2593- no Such object on any NASA photo, so this one is a blatant scam

I analyze rest of them later, when i will have some time.

reply to post by draknoir2

The moon landings were faked. We never went there. And when we did we found aliens, which is why we never went back. And when we returned on Apollo 18, 19, and 20 we found a crashed alien ship, which is visible in NASA photos because they are covering it up by erasing it from the photos.


Does that clear things up

By a remarkable coincidence, I found this in my in-box this morning:

Believing the impossible and conspiracy theories.

I'm thinking about turning it into a thread. What do you think?

reply to post by DJW001



Nice find.

Sums things up perfectly.

"chuckle chuckle" so many people desperate for aliens on the moon, yes there are aliens out there ... no they do not originate from or dwell on the moon, nevertheless there have been structures built on the moon so by whom you ask. If you do not know the answer to this then you are not ready to know im afraid but im sure all the conspiracy theorists and final agenda stooges will continue with the disinformation and "rabble" usually unknowingly but ultimately hastening the time when you will all be fooled into a new era by nothing more than man.

Understand your own world and people first before you try to understand another.....wakey wakey !

reply to post by Arken


hi Arken good post I was intriuged by the movie especially at about 2:51 with the object hovering but looking around at the terrain there looks like a massive hanger at the top right of the video and all around at the bottom left and middle left of the video are all these dome shaped humps on the ground alien base prehaps??

A very well put together entertainment. I particularly like the way bits of dialog were taken out of context and played over the images to give the impression that the astronauts were talking about the image, rather than something else. I would have thoroughly enjoyed this film back when I was fourteen years old. Unfortunately, even then I had been working with film for years and understood its limitations. Here is a quick guide to the schmutz of Apollo 15:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/e1d6e7b12b1a.jpg[/atsimg]

reply to post by DJW001


My appologies, what am I looking at here?

Originally posted by Arbitrageur

Originally posted by Arken

Here only two images cropped from the Luna Cognita video: two objects that hover above lunar surface, and cast shadows...

Probably just foreign objects in the camera as Phage demonstrated here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

That thread also discusses illusions of shadows. Too bad they had that much crud in the cameras, but it's obvious they had some foreign objects get in the camera system. The contrast and other appearance of the dark objects suggests they are in the camera and not on the moon.

I think NASA has since adopted a more meticulous cleanroom approach, but modern cameras are better sealed than the old film cameras anyway.

Ummmmm............Precisely...Which is why the astronauts comment that they have "visitors again" and that it "is'nt worth mentioning".........What precisely do they mean by "visitors"........and why should'nt they mention it?

Things that make ya go...................hmmmmmmmm...

YouSir

Great video,

I especially like the second UFO the OP posted. It appears to be an object above the lunar surface, and appears to be casting a shadow, but there is not enough data to determine what the object is - if it exists at all.

*I am the discoverer of this particular object and shall refer you to Zorgon and Jim Oberg for further explanation as to what it may or may not be, if it does or did at one point exist.

Originally posted by Sartori
reply to post by DJW001

 

My apologies, what am I looking at here?

Those are film flaws.

Sometimes, us debunkers like to use such things to provide explanations for what we are seeing in images like these. Knowing full well that almost any explanation is more plausible than 'alien ufo over the moon", we are quite often successful and win lots of online arguments. Sometimes debunkers like to say that an anomaly is both a film flaw and a piece of debris in lunar orbit - this is called doublethink and it doubles one's chances of success in an internet fight ,you just switch back and forth depending on what feels right.

(I joke, I'm not a debunker, just a skeptic but yeah, that one member was posting films flaws. .)