Just found out a family friend was Abducted by aliens and had her baby taken!?!

reply to post by ElohimJD


I think your points are well taken about the fallen angels/ET critters capacities to transmit to folks brains images, feelings etc. probably through a variety of means.

However, I do NOT believe as some that the craft are demonic bodies--bodies of demons. Some may be.

Not ALL are. Some are manufactured. Evidently we are manufacturing a fair number ourselves now.

Some even say that 50% of the abductions are carried out by human military ops folks now.

I'm utterly convinced that it is all managed by the fallen angels in league with the globalist elites.

To what specific ends remains to be seen. I have not come across a convincing tidy explanation on that, yet.

And certainly not a convincing one that was not "channeled" from the fallen angel forces.

Though i have never had hypnotherapy myself for simply because of lack of money, but i can understand how it could work.
you know the memory is there, you get tiny little glmps's at times, but never in the right order or never the full moment. it reminds me of the saying it's on the tip of my tongue.

love and harmony
Whateva

Originally posted by dilly1]

Umm,, particles come from the quantum level. You do understand that ,, right? The micro can't play with the macro. Accept it

How am I clueless again.

Your propulsion and lifting off statement is based on nothing more than "hope".

The "not known" and "not discovered" part is nothing more than wishful thinking.

There is no known technology at present that could propel a manned or even unmanned vehicle at anything near a small fraction of the speed of light. The fastest vehicles ever created by mankind, the Voyager probes, used a gravitational slingshot off of the planet Jupiter to attain a velocity of 100K mph

— that's STILL the fastest speed ever attained by a man made vehicle, and it's about 5 times faster than the FASTEST man made propulsion system.

The Voyager probes have been in space for over 33 years, and they haven't even escaped our solar system yet. When the Voyagers FINALLY clears the Heliopause (where the solar wind terminates) in about 6 years, they will have traveled roughly ONE freakin LIGHT DAY!!! okay?

One Light Day is the diameter of our Solar System. It is 4 LIGHT YEARS to the next nearest star system, okay!

So far, our FASTEST vehicles EVER require about 40 years to travel ONE LIGHT DAY


You my friend are clueless,not I

Accept it

Insulting everyone... Lawl troll.

FYI I've studied Astronomy, I've been good at physics back when I studied, I've memorized lots of Messier objects, and any objects in the night sky, I've never seen any objects that I couldn't explain in my case were starts, planets. planes, shooting stars, satellites. But what exists as clues given by people all over the world, including pilots and all,. shows there is some unknown technology. You exclude aliens, do you call all people idiots? Like look at the mirror? Ok so not aliens, so what re there

But there are enough clues to continue research because whether there is human technology involved, some does not seem to be. Sure this is where science stops, however how is science made? It is made by researching until you reach the whole truth and see of this theory is true or not.

Did I tell you, I who have also not believed in visitations by aliens until I did a deep research saw lots of witnesses comments, movies, videos, shut an astronomer's mouth when he said 'aliens havent been here' - I said in public when I visited our observatory - don't be so sure about it, there are lots of data about it- he quickly agreeded that there COULD BE (as I do so). I said it in front of public. It is NOT SCIENTIFIC, but I corrected them that they shouldn't make FAST conclusions about things they dont know... afterall I've studied AND CONTINUE to study in this area, I know what they're talking about damn it.

Also did I say that our technology the one known in public is not pathetic? Of course it sucks, but you say no aliens, no humans have such technology, Im talking about UFO technology you twat, then what is it? No dont post me BS it is Natural Phenomenon, again calling all people idiots? Some are, not all, look at the mirror before you hurry to call others idiots.

Such like you I'd put in some underground lab and experiment on with deadly bio weapons. Arrogant A**hole.

Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by ElohimJD

 

I think your points are well taken about the fallen angels/ET critters capacities to transmit to folks brains images, feelings etc. probably through a variety of means.

However, I do NOT believe as some that the craft are demonic bodies--bodies of demons. Some may be.

Not ALL are. Some are manufactured. Evidently we are manufacturing a fair number ourselves now.

Some even say that 50% of the abductions are carried out by human military ops folks now.

I'm utterly convinced that it is all managed by the fallen angels in league with the globalist elites.

To what specific ends remains to be seen. I have not come across a convincing tidy explanation on that, yet.

And certainly not a convincing one that was not "channeled" from the fallen angel forces.

You and I are in agreement for the most part on these aspects. We are speaking the same language but using a different font. Cooperation between leaders of the world and fallen angels seems to be needed for the Satanic agenda.

I enjoy reading your comments BO XAIN, thanks,

reply to post by ElohimJD


Thanks for your kind reply.

I agree. Certainly the collaboration between the fallen angels and the elites has been going on a long time.

I don't know what role the hybrid babies plays but it must be a key one . . . to have more than 3 million abductions in the USA alone . . . it's not an idle hobby.

If we postlate that . . . Ronald Reagan was cluing folks in with his 5 different speeches about how the world would quickly unite

IF

we were attacked by an ET force . . .

Seems to me such attacking conquest forces--even if there were "merely" playing a good-cop/bad-cop role to help set up and manage the global government tyranny--would likely NEED a hybrid race to interface

between

the critters and humans . . . between the critters and the slaves and serfs . . . or . . . between the critters and their cattle.

Just hypothesizing.

reply to post by Imtor


I agree with you, sometimes people think, that if they can't conceive how something would work, or why, then it must not exist in their eyes, which is completely ridiculous btw, but what do ya do?

Originally posted by mileysubet
Often people make up stories to help them deal with the emotional pain when this sort of thing happens.

Often people miscarriage babies, no trace. no blood, and when confronted with the memories, the same pattern of alien abductions arises.

BTW, this is not news OP; grey aliens are REAL entities, and yes, they abduct people and they're carrying on a hybridisation program.

Getting the fetus after 2-3 months is a classic in some of these cases.

reply to post by JackHill


Thats a pretty bold statement, I wouldn't make it unless I had some sort of direct experience with it, Have you? Not trying to challenge, just interested.

reply to post by JackHill


Thats a pretty bold statement, I wouldn't make it unless I had some sort of direct experience with it, Have you? Not trying to challenge, just interested.

Originally posted by andersensrm
reply to post by JackHill

 

Thats a pretty bold statement, I wouldn't make it unless I had some sort of direct experience with it, Have you? Not trying to challenge, just interested.

Please read the bibliography related to these encounters and you will find the same pattern over and over again.

After you study and read a lot about the subject, and after trying to find out alternative explanations, NO ONE will fit and explain it all, not even close.

Yes, it's hard to believe, but it's not a matter of believing or not, it's a matter of studying the subject, extensively, and drawing conclusions based on those.

My own? There are extraterrestrial entities abducting people at least since some decades now, and one of the primary objectives seems to be the make up of an hybrid race.

Sounds crazy right? Well, I don't give a f... about how it sounds, honestly, all I care is about finding the truth. And even when it could be ridiculous to some of us, it doesn't mean it coulnd't be the truth.

reply to post by JackHill


No I understand, and I've come to the same conclusion, in fact most of my ideas i would consider to be "too out there" for most people, so I've run into the same thing, I have a very open mind. However I cannot nail it down anything for sure. To me nothing is 100%. I can't even say 100% that I am on a computer talking to you now, through a website called ATS, Im only at about 99.9999999% that I am doing that. My point is, is that you can't be 100% sure about anything, so I guess im just cautioning that you keep an open mind, and don't think you've already figured it all out, because thats how you lose touch with reality.

Originally posted by andersensrm
reply to post by JackHill

 

No I understand, and I've come to the same conclusion, in fact most of my ideas i would consider to be "too out there" for most people, so I've run into the same thing, I have a very open mind. However I cannot nail it down anything for sure. To me nothing is 100%. I can't even say 100% that I am on a computer talking to you now, through a website called ATS, Im only at about 99.9999999% that I am doing that. My point is, is that you can't be 100% sure about anything, so I guess im just cautioning that you keep an open mind, and don't think you've already figured it all out, because thats how you lose touch with reality.

I'm far away of figuring it out all, I never would say such a thing!

But some things are clear after analyzing the facts, that being, there are alien entities interacting with human beings, some of them are being abducted against their will and memories 'erased', and one of the primary objectives seems to be the creation of a hybrid race. With what purpose, is a matter of pure speculation.

Of course there are a lot of charlatans and people making up stuff based on real cases. We know there are people who will do anything to get some fame or money.

Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
reply to post by SweetSomnia

 

Sue's case, in a completely non-offensive way, sounds quite mundane in its characteristics - a run-of-the-mill abduction for the Hyprid Breeding Project.

Finally, some one who has done some real research into this topic. That's exactly what I thought as soon as I read this thread. For me, this thread pretty much confirms what Jacobs wrote about. And there are several other threads like this on ATS. Do a search for abductions and look through some of the old threads. It's amazing.

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Unfortunately you just spawned a passion project in me. I am so fascinated by the opinions and theories of others. How is it that no one thinks this stuff goes on? The research this ONE MAN ALONE provided was almost enough for me but then to later read almost the same carbon copy scenarios that completely unaware and uneducated (in this field) people have experienced....Pick up a book people, and get informed. Knowledge is power and it never hurts to expand your horizons.

Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
reply to post by BO XIAN

 

Thats actually not a bad idea, since mum told me Ive wanted to ask Sue some more details.

Im going to ask Mum if she can mention get in touch with her to say that she told me and Im curious to know more, I might stretch the truth to Mum and say I know someone who has had a similar experience and they would like some info.

Ill give Mum a call tomorrow and let you know how it goes.

That is a fantastic idea. Keep up the good investigative work. Like any case - any detail no matter how small can make or break it. You seem like most of us, genuinely fascinated and striving for answers but you realize these are real people with real feelings. Heed with caution. Your "lie" will be a white one at best, there ARE thousands of people who have gone through this and now that you have a chock full of information, because you can maybe fill in some details for her with your "friends" case, it may lead her to open up and maybe not feel so alone in her situation. I'd go through the typical scenario, the typical reaction, and let her do the rest of the talking. I wish you the best of luck! Keep us posted.

reply to post by JackHill

After you study and read a lot about the subject, and after trying to find out alternative explanations, NO ONE will fit and explain it all, not even close.

Yes, it's hard to believe, but it's not a matter of believing or not, it's a matter of studying the subject, extensively, and drawing conclusions based on those.

INDEED.

IIRC, with Stan Romanek, there have been gifts exchanged . . . flowers . . . from at least one of his hybrid daughters.

www.stanromanek.com...

His narrative is the most widely corroborated of any that I know.

Groups of friends have been at his house and several to all of them seeing the entities along with photos of the same event.

reply to post by dilly1

Which scientific facts? Because, General and Special Relativity, those are INCOMPLETE THEORIES. The Unified Field Theory is INCOMPLETE. So, as you see, the OLD physics are wrong, and the NEW physics won't work until we find several missing bits first. And bits meaning massive amounts of data.

You sir are simply digging a massive hole for yourself. In this sentence you clearly state that our understanding of physics is still very "incomplete" and missing "massive amounts of data". Then in the same breath you claim with ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY that it's impossible to travel vast distances in space. You talk about the laws of physics as if you know it all. And you still haven't read my post in page 6 have you? You don't no bugger all about quantum mechanics, string theory, or how wormholes work. You're just acting like you know some physics, acting like the rational guy who has all the 'down to Earth' answers... the truth is your answers are naive and ill informed.

Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by JackHill

 

IIRC, with Stan Romanek, there have been gifts exchanged . . . flowers . . . from at least one of his hybrid daughters.

www.stanromanek.com...

His narrative is the most widely corroborated of any that I know.

Groups of friends have been at his house and several to all of them seeing the entities along with photos of the same event.

So I have NEVER heard of Stans story until now and how it got by me - apparently Im not as good as I thought. I mean hoax or not, it is amazing the AMOUNT of information he has and shares. Now the part im confused about is where it says anything about contact with hybrid children. Was that Stan you were referring to and if so where is it talked about or is it another case and I just misread?

I often wonder if the Grays (or whoever controls the Grays) are creating a hybrid race or monumental army of human clones to assist mankind against a potential future planned ET invasion of this planet.

Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes

Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by dilly1

 

1. My close relative worked with a high level German physicist adjacent to the UFO craft area at area 51.

2. I have had personal extensive contact with some of the top researchers around the world on UFO phenomena and technologies.

3. My B.A. program physics prof also asserted some such . . . factors.

4. I read a WIDE variety of material from a WIDE variety of sources.

5. Your ASSUMPTIONS about my sources of information seem to be as poorly informed and poorly thought-out as your assumptions about UFO technologies and the new physics that has been hidden from most of the public for more than 50 years.

Very interested in more details on these points! Care to open a thread to share some? #5 is especially interesting.

Did.

Here's the thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Thanks for your kind reply.

Much appreciate your thoughtful contributions to this thread. I rather agree with them wholesale.

in terms of #5 here . . .

--There's lots of discussion about mercury based rapidly moving circular toroid stuff around the crew etc. compartment of the craft. Some recent assertions are that that only removes 8X% 86? 87%? I forget--of the weight of the object.

And purportedly the triangle craft we build with such a technology also has a small nuclear engine for power.

--The capacity to blink in and blink out of this time/space dimension into another seems to have been mastered by the bona fide UFO critters. I have not read whether ours can do so or not. However, the declaration by the retiring head of Lockeed Skunk Works would indicate that ours can, too.

--His assertion would also indicate that we have 'star gates' and 'time machines' of some sort, too--though on the latter score, some insist we can only send recon objects one direction in terms of time.

--Some scientists actually insist that they now "KNOW WHERE God--as in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob came from." And they aren't kidding.

--The traveling to places that are distant in our time/space dimension by taking a short-cut through another dimension sounds convincing. I just haven't read much about the mechanics of doing so.

--Ditto the business about bending our time/space dimension somehow to bring two distant points functionally together.

--My relative was insistant that we could send bomb carrying UFO's to any spot on the planet INSTANTANEOUSLY.

I think that's about all I have on the top of my head about those issues. There's a LOT on the net about propulsion and a much smaller amount about postulations on the physics of traveling large distances faster than light in some functional respects.

There are a few reports of our scientists or officials asking the ET's about Einstein's purported speed of light limitation . . . THEY ARE REPORTED TO HAVE LAUGHED IN OUR FACES at the absurdity of our backwards understanding of such issues.

reply to post by DanielET


I'm sure there are some who would claim that.

Trouble is . . . ALL the NEW AGE 'channeled' scenarios cannot be right as they liberally contradict each other rather extensively.

In fact, many government officials characterize all the ET critters as

chronically LYING ALL THE TIME.

Why they believe them about mankind destroying himself and the planet is beyond me.