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In the latest turn in our Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit for records related to the government’s use of social networking websites, the Department of Justice finally agreed to release almost 100 pages of new records. These include draft search warrants and affidavits for Facebook and MySpace and several PowerPoint presentations and articles on how to use social networking sites for investigations.
Originally posted by webpirate
It's reasons like this why I don't use FB or any of the other social networking sites. ATS is it for me as far as online interaction with others..... or WoW!
Originally posted by EyesWideShut
This is nothing new, It requires a subpoena or warrant just like cell phone records. The cops don't just call and have access to everything. It better be pretty damn important for the court to order a subpoena. Subpoena's aren't handed out all willy nilly...lol
I'm sure if your wife or daughter came up missing and you thought someone one Facebook might have had last contact with them, I'm sure you'd be all about it.
With technology advancing at a rapid rate , it would only make sense that the gathering of information for investigations would utilize that technology. ]
Originally posted by trollz
What bothers me the most about that isn't that they're looking up all this information... I already knew they could/were... But that they have a specific interest in the kind of music you listen to. Why is the music a person listening to included in this? What scares me about this is I grew up listening to all kinds of music, including metal and industrial... And I would always hear about how certain music is evil or is going to make me violent. People tried to make me out to be a bad person solely based on some of the music I listened to. Is this what's happening here? You're charged with a crime, and then the police say "Oh no! Look! So-and-so listens to rap music or metal! They're obviously probably the ones who did this!"
I can't see any other reason for musical interests being included than to provide a hugely unfounded psychological profile.
Before the patriot act that may have been true.
Originally posted by EyesWideShut
This is nothing new, It requires a subpoena or warrant just like cell phone records. The cops don't just call and have access to everything. It better be pretty damn important for the court to order a subpoena. Subpoena's aren't handed out all willy nilly...lol
Perhaps one of the biggest controversies involved the use of NSLs by the FBI. Because they allow the FBI to search telephone, email, and financial records without a court order, they were criticized by many parties.[217][218][219][220] In November 2005, BusinessWeek reported that the FBI had issued tens of thousands of NSLs and had obtained one million financial, credit, employment, and in some cases, health records from the customers of targeted Las Vegas businesses. Selected businesses included casinos, storage warehouses and car rental agencies. An anonymous Justice official claimed that such requests were permitted under section 505 of the USA PATRIOT Act and despite the volume of requests insisted "We are not inclined to ask courts to endorse fishing expeditions".[221] Before this was revealed, however, the ACLU challenged the constitutionality of NSLs in court. In April 2004, they filed suit against the government on behalf of an unknown Internet Service Provider who had been issued an NSL, for reasons unknown. In ACLU v. DoJ, the ACLU argued that the NSL violated the First and Fourth Amendments of the U.S. Constitution because the USA PATRIOT Act failed to spell out any legal process whereby a telephone or Internet company could try to oppose an NSL subpoena in court. The court agreed, and found that because the recipient of the subpoena could not challenge it in court it was unconstitutional.[123] Congress later tried to remedy this in a reauthorization Act, but because they did not remove the non-disclosure provision a Federal court again found NSLs to be unconstitutional because they prevented courts from engaging in meaningful judicial review.
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
Before the patriot act that may have been true.
Originally posted by EyesWideShut
This is nothing new, It requires a subpoena or warrant just like cell phone records. The cops don't just call and have access to everything. It better be pretty damn important for the court to order a subpoena. Subpoena's aren't handed out all willy nilly...lol
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Perhaps one of the biggest controversies involved the use of NSLs by the FBI. Because they allow the FBI to search telephone, email, and financial records without a court order, they were criticized by many parties.[217][218][219][220] In November 2005, BusinessWeek reported that the FBI had issued tens of thousands of NSLs and had obtained one million financial, credit, employment, and in some cases, health records from the customers of targeted Las Vegas businesses. Selected businesses included casinos, storage warehouses and car rental agencies. An anonymous Justice official claimed that such requests were permitted under section 505 of the USA PATRIOT Act and despite the volume of requests insisted "We are not inclined to ask courts to endorse fishing expeditions".[221] Before this was revealed, however, the ACLU challenged the constitutionality of NSLs in court. In April 2004, they filed suit against the government on behalf of an unknown Internet Service Provider who had been issued an NSL, for reasons unknown. In ACLU v. DoJ, the ACLU argued that the NSL violated the First and Fourth Amendments of the U.S. Constitution because the USA PATRIOT Act failed to spell out any legal process whereby a telephone or Internet company could try to oppose an NSL subpoena in court. The court agreed, and found that because the recipient of the subpoena could not challenge it in court it was unconstitutional.[123] Congress later tried to remedy this in a reauthorization Act, but because they did not remove the non-disclosure provision a Federal court again found NSLs to be unconstitutional because they prevented courts from engaging in meaningful judicial review.
"the FBI had issued tens of thousands of NSLs and had obtained one million financial, credit, employment, and in some cases, health records from the customers of targeted Las Vegas businesses"?? All without any court order or warrant.
Originally posted by mother1138
So I guess if your using TOR to access something like FB, they'll gather that if your ip points to various places all over the globe from day to day ... which they would figure must mean you're CLEARLY guilty and hiding something, eh?