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Originally posted by THEDUDE86
and the Saudis have the money!
Originally posted by truthinfact
If that man knew what he was talking about, He'd be dead.
Who ever did 9/11 murdered thousands of people, you think they'd leave this guy behind?
Originally posted by Tw0Sides
reply to post by ModernAcademia
He has been saying this for YEARS .
I believe it was 13 out of 15 passports were through him , and he was TOLD to give them passports by the CIA.
The 911 detractors have been saying there have been no whistleblowers, there have been lots.
Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
You think that Michael Springman issued 13 passports to the 9/11 hijackers?
I'd like to see you prove that one.
Originally posted by Tw0Sides
Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
You think that Michael Springman issued 13 passports to the 9/11 hijackers?
I'd like to see you prove that one.
Thanks for correcting me, its important we stay on the facts, in my haste to respond I actually made 2 errors.
It was 15 out of 19 hijackers.
And it was visa's not passports.
Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
So you're claiming that Michael Springman issued 15 of the 19 hijackers with visas?
That would have been quite difficult, I imagine. But let's hear your proof for it.
Originally posted by Tw0Sides
As I said , in another thread, I will be making a few threads regarding events before sept 11.
We will talk, but I know your mind is not open to change, so , I will make a thread to inform other ATS members.
You are invited to join the discussion.
Springmann: That's right. And as you recall, they believe that this fellow Sheikh Abdel Rahman over in New York that was tied to the first Trade Center bombing, had gotten his visa from a CIA case officer in the Sudan. And that 15 or so of the people who came from Saudi Arabia to participate in the attacks on the WTC and the Pentagon had gotten their visas through the American consular general at Jeddah.
There's some conflicting info there, so I won't claim to know what happened, only that it's worth looking into further. If you have evidence to support your claim that he's talking about a different phase, I'd be interested to see that. In everything I can find so far, Springmann definitely seems to be suggesting that the visa program he saw in the 80s was connected to the hijackers.
According to Springmann, the Jeddah consulate was run by the CIA and staffed almost entirely by intelligence agents. This visa system may have continued at least through 9/11, and 11 of the 19 9/11 hijackers received their visas through Jeddah