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posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 11:59 AM
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Iran threatens Israel, U.S. over scientist killing


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Israel and the United States are "supporters of state terrorism" and will suffer a "punitive response" at an "opportune time," Iran's Press TV cited a top Iranian general as saying Sunday, days after an Iranian nuclear scientist was killed.

Iran will hold "the U.S., Britain and the Zionist regime accountable for their actions," said the deputy chairman of Iran's Joint Chiefs of Staff, Brig. Gen. Massoud Jazayeri.
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posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 11:59 AM
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Who is wanting a war here ?
and whos is showing enormous amount of restrain

He was very wise and gave a warning to the USA and Israel
They will be punished at a opportunated time
What does he mean ...when the attack on their nuclear facilities comes ?

Lets analyse this last sentence a bit ..
why not now ? before many other scientist are killed
they say they have the proof
and Israel already indirectly told the world that it was them

Iran is waiting for the opportunate time
when Russia will help Syria and Iran in any aerial attack attempt .. all the S300 are probably in place all over Syria and Iran .. they will not be the attacker .. but they will defend themself with everything they got if attacked

Lets pray for humanity sake that Israel will not be mad enought
to attack Iran and draw the USA into another bloody war
that they cannot win


Jazayeri said the assassination would not hinder Iran's progress towards strategic technologies, the government-run Press TV reported Sunday, following an interview with him on Saturday.

Nuclear scientist Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan was killed Wednesday by what Iran described as a magnetic bomb attached to his car.

He was the third Iranian nuclear scientist to be killed in the past two years. A fourth survived a similar assassination attempt.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton "categorically" denied any role in the attacks, but urged Iran to halt its quest for a nuclear bomb.

U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta Thursday told troops in Texas: "We were not involved in any way -- in any way -- with regards to the assassination that took place there.... that's not what the United States does."


Hillary Obama, Panetta and all other in the government .. are terrible liars
always in denial to the last breath

www.cnn.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
edit on 1/15/2012 by Ben81 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 12:13 PM
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Almost sounds like u.s/israel wanted to get caught .

But will deny it hoping iran will strike first . I'm still waiting on this evidence they have to confirm.

"at an "opportune time,""


this means , were not going to strike first because we know how stupid that would be , We will wait untill you make the first more , then we are justified to attack back with all our means .


Iran ain't no fool , they know little tricks like this are the bait to attack first , maybe hitting one of the navy ships .

But nope its not the opportune time yet , i'm sure israel u.s will tickle the lion more and more

espically with these sanctions

remember pearl harbor and how many sanctions japan ate before having enough !

everyones got a breaking point



:Hillary Obama, Panetta and all other in the government .. are terrible liars
always in denial to the last breath :"


My friend liars are a gross understatement for these psychopaths

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posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 12:15 PM
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Iran certainly seems to be taking THIS specific assassination awfully hard. Either this guy was more important than the last 6-8 Nuke eggheads to die or disappear...or it's just reaching a breaking point for being on the receiving side of covert warfare in their own cities. After the hell they've dished out through their proxies to other regional locations over 3 decades, I imagine turn about isn't what they're calling fair play.


In all seriousness though, lets not make Iran sound like a truly peaceful regime looking for days that John Lennon would call perfect. I'd say they've gotten more than a few licks in by road side weapons and penetrator type shaped charges they've supplied as party favors to Iraq if NOTHING else. Only time will tell how this all plays out....but I'd be just as happy if the game weren't played further at all, myself.

Tehran or Washington...either player can leave the field and just refuse to continue this warped game.



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Tehran or Washington...either player can leave the field and just refuse to continue this warped game.


Iran is already on their field ..since they live there
the USA should pick up their bags go back home
and Israel should Claim Their INDEPENDANCE
so the US economy can have a chance to get better

but no .. they will again take the worst decision and go with the attack on Iran

edit on 1/15/2012 by Ben81 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 12:25 PM
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This caught my eye and I instantaneously thought of this analogy with regards to this region.


Originally posted by yourboycal2

But nope its not the opportune time yet , i'm sure israel u.s will tickle the lion more and more



A cat plays with a mouse before the cat kills it.

But the mouse doesn't take kindly to it being tortured, it ruffles up its fur to try to make it look bigger and defends itself to the best of it ability. The cat is amused by all of this, until the mouse bites the cat and the cat kills it finally.

Unbeknown to the cat, the mouse had rabies, which will eventually kill the cat.

Economically, another conflict in the region will be our rabies if we draw it out like the others.



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by TDawgRex
This caught my eye and I instantaneously thought of this analogy with regards to this region.


Originally posted by yourboycal2

But nope its not the opportune time yet , i'm sure israel u.s will tickle the lion more and more



A cat plays with a mouse before the cat kills it.

But the mouse doesn't take kindly to it being tortured, it ruffles up its fur to try to make it look bigger and defends itself to the best of it ability. The cat is amused by all of this, until the mouse bites the cat and the cat kills it finally.

Unbeknown to the cat, the mouse had rabies, which will eventually kill the cat.

Economically, another conflict in the region will be our rabies if we draw it out like the others.


Yes i know .. Iran is strong and they needed to be weakened before any attack
and elevate the chances of winning the war

This strategy is often employed and is usualy the most painfull to the population
its like trying to destroy the country soul to avoid to many people joining the war against the intruder



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by Ben81


Hillary Obama, Panetta and all other in the government .. are terrible liars
always in denial to the last breath



That is a very slanderous and unfounded remark. Also disrespectful to the quotes that have been given by each of those people (quoted above.)

Perhaps you are using your wicked accusations as an attempt to sway the opinions of readers. Perhaps you are just trolling. Either way, your words are manipulative and have no basis in fact.

If you have proof that "they are lying"...then present it. Otherwise, you are the liar.

It appears to me from the above quotes and the actions, that these two people are trying to keep the peace.

Your words and accusations are designed to instigate turmoil and evil will. No wonder some people hope to shut down the internet.



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by Ben81

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Tehran or Washington...either player can leave the field and just refuse to continue this warped game.


Iran is already on their field ..since they live there
the USA should pick up their bags go back home


That is true to a point, but then Bahrain, the UAE, Kuwait and Saudi live there too and they are inviting us in with major combat commands like the 5th Fleet HQ in Bahrain or various regional command centers up and down the West shore of the Gulf.

Apparently they (The rest of the Neighborhood in the Gulf) believe the only thing worse than being caught in the middle of the United States and Iran finally having their fight is facing a regional super-power in Iran, alone.


Now the fight between Israel and it's immediate neighbors on all sides has been in the making since the 40's...but this fight with Iran has been in the making since the Embassy was breached in 1979. It's been coming and BOTH sides have known it, for 30 years now.

I think that perspective is important to recall in how this is far more complex and shady for who is right or wrong than the opportunistic way Libya was stomped, almost as an afterthought.


None of that makes either side right in my view..and either side can turn this off before the shooting and dying starts. It just seems neither side as even the slightest interest.



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by Alethea

Originally posted by Ben81


Hillary Obama, Panetta and all other in the government .. are terrible liars
always in denial to the last breath



That is a very slanderous and unfounded remark. Also disrespectful to the quotes that have been given by each of those people (quoted above.)

Perhaps you are using your wicked accusations as an attempt to sway the opinions of readers. Perhaps you are just trolling. Either way, your words are manipulative and have no basis in fact.

If you have proof that "they are lying"...then present it. Otherwise, you are the liar.

It appears to me from the above quotes and the actions, that these two people are trying to keep the peace.

Your words and accusations are designed to instigate turmoil and evil will. No wonder some people hope to shut down the internet.


How can i be disrespectfull while so many people
were killed in a false flag op to make wars in the ME
Bin laden didnt do 9/11 by himself blowing up 2 tower to the ground in a mather of second
with 2 planes hitting 2 identical building in 2 different place
and having the same result TWICE with a perfect vertical fall in a mather of seconds
it look like a bad hollywood script an impossible script with just a lot of explosion and destruction

You need to read this thousand comments thread:

Japan Skyscrapers Sway With 8.9 Earthquake but the WTC collapsed !! still beleive the 9/11 version?

Wonder why there is so many debate on the subject
because the official version is ridiculous .. another lie

Since 9/11 the government has been in a lying patern to have total control of the ME
to isolate Russia maybe ?
or to protect somone who has made so many enemies in such a fast time since 1967

I have made many research to arrive at certain conclusion
now i can notice any exagerated lie .
these lie have commited so many war crimes .. how can you still have confidence in the gov ??
they really think we are that dump
and because they say something on the news... it must be the real ultimate truth


Guess what .. they are not finishing lying and denying until the zionist that control 3/4 of the us congress
gets what they want

9/11 started the war on terror .. who is the terror today in the world ?
that keeps invading countries in the name of terror .. how ironic
who nuked civilian cities before ? and they wants to avoid other doing what they did ?? not logic
spreading the idea in the news that someone is going to use nuke someday on anyone in the world
spread fear in the human mind and can cloud your judgment

can you know see the reality ?
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posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 03:04 PM
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Radical Shiite leaders including the Ayatollah believe they can bring about the return of the "Mahdi" known to them as " Twelfth Imam, Muhammad al-Mahdi" who upon return will rule for a period of time and rid the world of wrongdoing injustice and tyranny... He is the redeemer of Islam.


en.wikipedia.org...

The Twelfth Imam will return as the Mahdi with "a company of his chosen ones," and his enemies will be led by the one-eyed Antichrist and the Sufyani. The two armies will fight "one final apocalyptic battle" where the Mahdi and his forces will prevail over evil. After the Mahdi has ruled Earth for a number of years, Isa will return.


Isa (Jesus)

How will they know when the Mahdi will come?....

www.inter-islam.org...


Signs that will Precede Imam Mahdi

1) A General Sign

There are many signs that will precede him, a general and very important sign is that he will come at a time when there is great confutation, intense disputes and violent deaths. When people are afflicted by disturbance and experiencing great fear. Calamities will fall upon the people, so much so that a man shall not find a shelter to shelter him self from oppression. There will be battles and fitnaas before his appearance. Every time a fitnaa has come to end, another will start, spread and intensify. The people will be troubled to such an extent that they will long for death. It is then that Imam Mahdi will be sent.

Abu Saeed Al-Khudri has repoted that the Messenger of Allah said "He will be sent at a time of intense disputes and differences among people and earthquakes..." (Ahmed)


WAR!

Crazy ain't it?

They believe this "Twelfth Imam, Mahdi" will intervene in their war with the west, and the Zionist Jew oppressors and will rule the WORLD under Islamic law and the evil "great Satan" will be defeated and destroyed.

This is why they are fearless, this is why they provoke, this is why they threaten, and this is why they are absolutely the most dangerous regime on the planet....

You want them to have nukes?

Go for it.


Careful what you wish for!





posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 03:08 PM
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U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta Thursday told troops in Texas: "We were not involved in any way -- in any way -- with regards to the assassination that took place there.... that's not what the United States does."


You've got to love the above statement...NOT!

Guess no one told him about all the US DRONE assassinations, including on US citizens?



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by yourboycal2
Almost sounds like u.s/israel wanted to get caught .

OR ... it almost sounds like Iran 'off'd' the guy themselves when they were through with him and then used his death as a tool to be able to bluster and threaten the USA and Israel. Could go either way ... They do kill their own, and they'd make great propaganda use out of the death ....



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 03:14 PM
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it's more of a public declaration that the US and Israel are into state sponsered terrorism.

every nation on the planet will have that message ring through their foreign affairs department, and they will be forced to discuss it with their intelligence apparatuses.

this is Irans way of trying to show itself as a defendant, and it will work with a lot of nations sitting on the fence if they have the evidence to prove it.

America and Israel are like Nazi Germany, circa 1933-1938, we have healthy relationships with those around us, for the time being, even though many are aware of what the potential is, the 2 nations in the past decade have waged 6-8 wars. how much longer until a counter alliance begins to fight back and 1939 commences?



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
. it almost sounds like Iran 'off'd' the guy themselves when they were through with him and then used his death as a tool to be able to bluster and threaten the USA and Israel.

Most of the time , I don't agree with you on anything you say. I understand your reasons, Fox is a highly rated network for a reason. But even for you , and your supporters, this is just silly.



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posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 05:31 PM
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It goes back before then to at least Charlemagne in the 800s.
He murdered all the pagan Saxons during a peaceful meeting.
Before him it was the Romans.
The elites don't give a funk about the common man or woman...
They eliminate, or try to eliminate those who are switched on to their bs too...



posted on Jan, 16 2012 @ 06:08 AM
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Originally posted by Tw0Sides
I understand your reasons, Fox is a highly rated network for a reason.

... obviously you DON'T understand if you make a statement like that.
Have you ever even taken a look at what goes on inside Iran?
Do you understand how many people 'disappear' in that country after being carted away?
Do you understand how Iran trumps up charges on people and then uses the political capital?
No .. obviously not. Or you wouldn't have revealed your ignorance of how Iran works.

But even for you , and your supporters, this is just silly.

I have no 'supporters'. THAT comment is silly.
Go educate yourself on how Iran works and then come back and try again.

edit on 1/16/2012 by FlyersFan because: fixed word



posted on Jan, 16 2012 @ 06:37 AM
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Anyone here old enough to remember how WW II got started for the US? Anyone? What we are seeing here is a modern day version of that playing out minus the existing conflict atm.

The US put so many sanctions on Japan, they had no alternative but to attack as economically their way of life (even so they were slaughtering Chinese at the time) was floundering due to what amounted to present day sanctions in termanology.

Now, the US was soely responsible for Hitlers rise to begin with after the US stoped doing business with Germany after WW I. At that time it was also the equivelant of sanctions as Germany's economy was tanking due to the business fall out and being black balled by major banks and investment.

My point? Same set up, scarier times to do it in. Its all about money folks plain and simple. You make Irans money worthless...and all your doing is giving Iran the excuse they need to retaliate in any form necessary.

History repeats does it not? The US was also responsible for Saddam, Osama, the current Iranian gov, Veitnam (by French Proxy), you name it.

The bankers were responsible for the revolutionary way, War of 1812, Civil War, WW I .....are you seeing a pattern here? America is not a country but a corporation since its inception. All to be controled by Money.



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