Fox "News" is report that Romney has won NH with only 17% of the vote in?

Sorry hit enter and it posted.

Fox result tracker

CBS news

Call me crazy but, calling an election with less than a 1/4 of the vote counted seems a little premature to me. I don't know why this gets on my nerves anymore but it still is.

Ummm - hmmm.

Did you mean to have some text in your OP?

Yeah - I'm going to guess they did. I was watching CBS about 20 mins ago and they predicted Romney as the winner with a little less than that in.

So - its not just a Fox news thing - sorry.

..ah - you added more.

Yup. Most of the media outlets do it and occasionally the get burned by it. Probably they do it because people want to know everything "now". Being the first to give a winner likely equals ratings.

Thanks i will edit the OP to reflect as MSM.

I don't know how to edit the title.

reply to post by watchitburn
They DO tend to do that. Usually a substantial reporting of early polls is telling of the final outcome.

No offense intended, it's just not a new thing...and we were all pretty much expecting Romney to win. Now, if Huntsman pulls out a surprise second, I'll DEFINITELY get a little riled up. And he is moving a bit...honestly, there's really only so far you can push the "Paul-supporting-precincts-reported-early" thing.

....I'm watching him make his...yay, I won......speech on CNN right now

nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com...

heres another on msn.com......

If Romney gets shoved down our throats......oh i don't trust him, i don't like his policies, I sure don't like his healthcare plan...sounds like Obama on a diet if you ask me....I've almost lost my faith in humanity lol

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Yeah I got an alert from AP on my phone saying the same thing, then when I read the article title, "Romeny leads in early returns". De de deee

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While I am a supporter of Ron Paul, I purposely didn't mention him.

I was just trying to point out that the MSM is declaring a winner in a race that is separated by 4,000 votes when less than 1/4 of the State has voted.

Originally posted by watchitburn
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I was just trying to point out that the MSM is declaring a winner in a race that is separated by 4,000 votes when less than 1/4 of the State has voted.

That's really all that is needed. A good scientific poll can predict a national election on polling 1,000 people. The percentages may change a wee bit, but this is a done deal.

And I don't care for Romney either...

CNN just predicted Ron Paul as second place winner in NH.

Let's see...third in Iowa. Second in NH...maybe first in SC...

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All MSM makes the call at the same time. Welcome to America!!


Go Ron Go!

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...Well he is leading by 10%. That would be pretty hard to close the gap, so I'd say projecting him as the winner wouldn't be inaccurate. Stating it as a fact prematurely, saying "Mitt Romney has won!" would be wrong, but saying something like "It appears that Mitt Romney will win in New Hampshire as he is leading by 10%" wouldn't really upset me that much.

Second place for Paul is good enough for me, that's better than he did in Iowa! If he keeps this trend up, he'll get first next time

Yeah I really do not understand the 'projected winner' thing. There are still 80-something% of New Hampshire's counties to consider. You would think since they want more viewers, they would only monitor the numbers coming in and leave out the projected winner BS.

Oh and another thing. Who else watched Romney's speech when he said "We'll show them all who has the world's strongest military."?

Good bye cruel world.

Who cares? If you really thought Paul was going to come in first you're getting you hopes too high. Romney was basically predestined to come in first in NH; & I'm actually very glad Paul is still in a good second place at 24%.

Originally posted by watchitburn
Sorry hit enter and it posted.

Fox result tracker

CBS news

Call me crazy but, calling an election with less than a 1/4 of the vote counted seems a little premature to me. I don't know why this gets on my nerves anymore but it still is.

edit on 10-1-2012 by watchitburn because: Stupid buttons

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Its called exit polling and statistics. Not all that accurate and only have to redact and admit they reported to early. Still an effective (yet nefarious) tactic to utilize by any news agency (Fox News isn't the only one that does this; if you believe that then I have a bridge to sell for you).

It is a subtle attempt to either keep people at home that would have otherwise voted in one way or another or to grab those on-the-fence voters that might vote for X but Y is "ahead and winning" in the polls; so they go out and vote for Y.

We scream and kick about corporate (and to a far lessor extent union) contributions as a form of "electioneering" but this is far more dangerous than any amount of dollars pumped into a campaign could ever accomplish.

Maybe I spoke too soon, Ron Paul is trailing by 8% now instead of 10% based on this website. Still, I would see it as unlikely that he actually closes that gap and takes first place. It's not impossible though.

Originally posted by iamhobo
Yeah I really do not understand the 'projected winner' thing. There are still 80-something% of New Hampshire's counties to consider. You would think since they want more viewers, they would only monitor the numbers coming in and leave out the projected winner BS.

The thing is, it's not BS. We're up to 37% counted now. Romney is a couple of percentage points up, Paul one or two down, Huntsman with 17? WTF is that all about? Gingrich and Santorum down to 10. If the race were closer you wouldn't be able to project so easily and you'd be right. How could they project with 80% of the vote left to be counted? Well, they couldn't because the difference would be within the "margin for error" that statistics always must consider. But compared to when this thread started, we're a long ways beyond it, and Romney is not just ten points ahead, but 12. Unless they saved all the college votes for last, where RP would do better, the trend we are seeing now will continue. This isn't really MSM's "fault." In this case, they've nailed it.

Update. OK I get it. The strong Huntsman vote is made up of cross-over Democrats.

Wow Perry ( "Gorge Bush II" ) is getting annihilated.
Still, I am not much in favor of Romney. He is just a cookie cutter politician ever down to his hair. lol

~Morpheus

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Yeah it's refreshing that Americans can see a politicians utter stupidity and ignorance when confronted with it. I just wish they had a similiar level of detection when it comes to corruption.