'US deploys troops in Israel for Iran war'

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civilian populous.

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Wow...

Sometimes I wonder what it would be like to live in a country where your government gives a # about you enough to do that.

what I still do not get ... how is it possible that a government wants to start a war, because another country might maybe assemble a nuclear device ... even more strange, the country starting that war, is the only country that used nuclear bombs in a war against another country, just to make a point and test their new toy! it seems like they think every country would be that mean and irresponsible as they are ...
Why is the USA still allowed to have these nuclear devices? They are a threat to this planet (I do not mean the american people, only their government) and not Iran, Irak, or a sandy Afghanistan. As it seems nobody wants to take away Americas toys, because it is very possible that the US government is freaking out because of that and will press the red button, just because they can.

Originally posted by Observor
Exactly what purpose do US forces in Israel serve in a war with Iran? It is not as if Israel has any kind of a border with Iran. Even if Iran were to lob some missiles, the presence of US forces can only mean US casualities.

Perhaps it's because more than Iran will get involved. It seems whenever there's confilict in the middle east, whether Israel is part of it or not, someone lobs missiles at Israel.

Originally posted by apodictic
reply to post by Rapha

 

Alright, much better.

Politicians will be politicians, but talk is cheap. All Iran has to do is not close the strait or attack our ships just because they feel threatened. If they do, they'd have a lot more to worry about than just the United States.

Especially if they close the strait. Damn near close the entire world will be angry with Iran then.

So Iran should just let America just do as it pleases? Even if our navy was invited there is no reason for our presence in the straits and seeing how the inbound lane goes into Iran's waters they can tell our military to stay out if they want.

This is the largest exercise EVER involving missiles...

Anyone with a 2+ neurons can understand that its not going to be a simple exercise.We got thousands of US soldiers, Aegis cruisers, THAAD and Patriot systems beeing part of the ''exercise''.Add to this Arrow and Iron Dome systems...and Israel will have ALL AVAILABLE anti-missile systems in place and in full combat capacity sometimes this spring.

Everyone in their right mind knows that an attack on Iran can lead to a massive missile strike on Israel..and not from Iran only, but also from Syria, Hezbollaz and Hamas.Long range-high altitude missiles from Iran (THADD is counter for those), medium-range missiles from Syria and Hezbollah (Arrow and Patriot are counter for those) and short-range missiles and projectiles from Hamas (Iron Dome is the counter for those).

My logic might be wrong...but missiles exercises in Israel with US Patriot involved required couple hundreds US specialists and soldires up until now.They are going to DEPLOY thousands this spring.

It is easily understandable that any counter-attack from Iran and their proxies MUST be contained as much as posible.Maybe Arrow and Iron Dome can cope with it...but the highest missile defense that Israel will have would be when Patriot and THAAD will also be in place.

You can't just move those systems and thousands of soldier every 2 weeks...its either you deploy them in Israel for good...or deploy them because you KNOW Iran will be attacked and will hit back.

I make no mistake thinking that this is just muscle-flexing...US doesn't need to do it, everyone knows that US military can kick as.s...

I hate this expresion...but "BUCKLE UP GUYS, ITS ON".

Originally posted by Riip9110
what I still do not get ... how is it possible that a government wants to start a war, because another country might maybe assemble a nuclear device ...

If arab nations go nuclear we're all screwed. If the U.S or any other country with nukes launches ICBM's on any other country with nukes they know they'll be causing the deaths of millions of their own people. If an arab country with nukes launched ICBM's on any other country with nukes they'll be martyring their own people. The state of alot of middle eastern countries are too controlled by religion to be allowed to have nukes.

even more strange, the country starting that war, is the only country that used nuclear bombs in a war against another country, just to make a point and test their new toy! it seems like they think every country would be that mean and irresponsible as they are ...

No. Japan wouldn't have surrenderd and the only other choice would have been an invasion which would have cost too many allied lives. The A boms were the only answer. Or would it have been better that hundreds of thousands of allied lives were lost?

Why is the USA still allowed to have these nuclear devices? They are a threat to this planet (I do not mean the american people, only their government) and not Iran, Irak, or a sandy Afghanistan. As it seems nobody wants to take away Americas toys, because it is very possible that the US government is freaking out because of that and will press the red button, just because they can.

If any one of those countries you mention other than the U.S had nukes they would have launched them years ago and you wouldn't be on here posting.

Why do those Zionists keep calling it a War?

It's not a war. A war is both sides having a grievance and fighting it out. This is one sided.

It's an invasion. An invasion by the Zionist Elite to steal another country's resources and to murder it's population. Just like Iraq and just like Libya. Genocidal murder for resource control. Iran is not the problem. It has never been the problem. Iran has not invaded another country in over 300 years. Last invasion on Iran was by UK supported Iraq. Iran are not the aggressors. The UK, US, EU Zionist Elite are the aggressors. They are the war mongers and murderers. They are the INVADERS!!!

If arab nations go nuclear we're all screwed. If the U.S or any other country with nukes launches ICBM's on any other country with nukes they know they'll be causing the deaths of millions of their own people. If an arab country with nukes launched ICBM's on any other country with nukes they'll be martyring their own people. The state of alot of middle eastern countries are too controlled by religion to be allowed to have nukes.

Well if the US didn't go invading and bombing the cr*p out of some 50+ countries over the past half century, i very much doubt an Arab country would use nukes if they had them. The US is the ROOT cause of the majority of the hate towards the west and it will continue to put the whole world in danger with its foreign policies

No. Japan wouldn't have surrenderd and the only other choice would have been an invasion which would have cost too many allied lives. The A boms were the only answer. Or would it have been better that hundreds of thousands of allied lives were lost?

A Bombs were the only answer. Are you for real? Diplomacy was the answer and still is today. You ask, would it have been better that thousands of allied lives were lost...what about the thousands of innocents, including children that were murdered when..."you had no choice"

If any one of those countries you mention other than the U.S had nukes they would have launched them years ago and you wouldn't be on here posting.

You mean just like the US did? Do you really think if this was the case they wouldn't launch them just now? This last comment is just plain ridiculous. This is precisely why we are in this mess, people like you are in power and they also think like this.

Wouldn't it be better served if the US apologised for its behaviour over the past 50 or so years and withdrew every soldier from foreign lands and concentrated on protecting its borders instead of invading others? Is it really any wonder most countries hate the US.

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Unless they feel like getting pounded. That's just a reality. I don't run the show, but they've already backed themselves into a corner.

Iran's waters? What? They're international waters, and like I've already stated the 5th fleet has a base in Bahrain.

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Yeah, cause we made out like a bandit with the BILLIONS spent attempting to rebuild Iraq. Oh, wait. My bad. We didn't make a damn cent!

Originally posted by Jerisa

'US deploys troops in Israel for Iran war'

www.presstv.com

The US military is preparing a massive military campaign against Iran, sending thousands of American troops, warships and weaponry to Israel.


An unnamed source said the military deployment of US anti-missile ships and accompanying support personnel will occur in January and later this spring, Global Research reported.

Commander of the US Third Air Force based in Germany Lt.-Gen Frank Gorenc said it is not just an "exercise," but a "deployment," The Jerusalem Post said.

Washington and Tel Aviv have planned to hold what they call the largest-ever joint military exercise this sprin

(visit the link for the full news article)

What a great start to 2012 eh, a new war about to start! I feel sorry for my 7 year old daughter growing up in this world, I can’t believe how out of hand things are getting in the Middle East!

Rgds Jay

Why does israel even like the u.s. ? The u.s. is doing more to cause a scene then prevent one. So no wonder isral will need american military support. And how does israel feel about the u.s. giving 7 times the military aid to arab countries. And now american troops are basically invading israel to keep them safe. Have fun supporting your aipac candidates just because they wear a yalmake and claim they are jewish.

Originally posted by DerbyCityLights
reply to post by jude11

 

Yeah, cause we made out like a bandit with the BILLIONS spent attempting to rebuild Iraq. Oh, wait. My bad. We didn't make a damn cent!

no but haliburton did. And dont forget the largest embassy in the world was built in iraq. And the never ending war possibilities from a destabilized country.

Originally posted by jrmcleod

If arab nations go nuclear we're all screwed. If the U.S or any other country with nukes launches ICBM's on any other country with nukes they know they'll be causing the deaths of millions of their own people. If an arab country with nukes launched ICBM's on any other country with nukes they'll be martyring their own people. The state of alot of middle eastern countries are too controlled by religion to be allowed to have nukes.

Well if the US didn't go invading and bombing the cr*p out of some 50+ countries over the past half century, i very much doubt an Arab country would use nukes if they had them. The US is the ROOT cause of the majority of the hate towards the west and it will continue to put the whole world in danger with its foreign policies

No. Japan wouldn't have surrenderd and the only other choice would have been an invasion which would have cost too many allied lives. The A boms were the only answer. Or would it have been better that hundreds of thousands of allied lives were lost?

A Bombs were the only answer. Are you for real? Diplomacy was the answer and still is today. You ask, would it have been better that thousands of allied lives were lost...what about the thousands of innocents, including children that were murdered when..."you had no choice"

If any one of those countries you mention other than the U.S had nukes they would have launched them years ago and you wouldn't be on here posting.

You mean just like the US did? Do you really think if this was the case they wouldn't launch them just now? This last comment is just plain ridiculous. This is precisely why we are in this mess, people like you are in power and they also think like this.

Wouldn't it be better served if the US apologised for its behaviour over the past 50 or so years and withdrew every soldier from foreign lands and concentrated on protecting its borders instead of invading others? Is it really any wonder most countries hate the US.

And if the west was run by people like you we'd all be screwed simply because you're ignorant to the reality of things. Unrealistic band wagon riding doesn't change facts. The A bomb saved thousands of allied lives and if you feel like saying sorry for that being dropped than you're fool because there's a very real chance that you wouldn't be here because your ancester would have most likely died on some Japanese beach.

Ignorant.

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You say Halliburton did. Don't you mean KBR?

KBR parted from Halliburton a year or 2 ago. Do I guess you mean KBR?

Originally posted by filosophia

Originally posted by DerbyCityLights
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Yeah, cause we made out like a bandit with the BILLIONS spent attempting to rebuild Iraq. Oh, wait. My bad. We didn't make a damn cent!

no but haliburton did. And dont forget the largest embassy in the world was built in iraq. And the never ending war possibilities from a destabilized country.

Haliburton is NOT the USA. In fact, many stock owners are from other countries so...

And what does the big shiny new building have to do with the persons post from page 1 that I was referring to?

Originally posted by Riip9110
Why is the USA still allowed to have these nuclear devices?

Because nobody can take them away?

The international arena is not a civilised place. It is simply an arena where the might rules. Some societies are civilised in their behaviour towards others and some are not. The US is in the latter category. They also happen to be the strongest, so no one can make them behave.

They are a threat to this planet (I do not mean the american people, only their government) and not Iran, Irak, or a sandy Afghanistan.

You are right about the US, but I don't find any justification to dissociate the American public from the actions of their government. It is neither an autocracy nor an occupied state.

As it seems nobody wants to take away Americas toys, because it is very possible that the US government is freaking out because of that and will press the red button, just because they can.

It is not a question of whether anyone wants to, but anyone is capable of it. Yes, they do what they do because they can.

Eventually they will be stopped, but not before they have wreaked some more havoc.

Originally posted by steveknows

Originally posted by Observor
Exactly what purpose do US forces in Israel serve in a war with Iran? It is not as if Israel has any kind of a border with Iran. Even if Iran were to lob some missiles, the presence of US forces can only mean US casualities.

Perhaps it's because more than Iran will get involved. It seems whenever there's confilict in the middle east, whether Israel is part of it or not, someone lobs missiles at Israel.

I believe I covered that in the latter part of my post that you quoted. Even if "someone" lobs missiles at Israel, presence of US troops there won't help Israel any. Missile defence systems? Yes. US Troops? No.

Originally posted by DerbyCityLights
reply to post by jude11

 

Yeah, cause we made out like a bandit with the BILLIONS spent attempting to rebuild Iraq. Oh, wait. My bad. We didn't make a damn cent!

untold billions were made from the war(s). get your head out of the sand. and if this thing is gonna go the way it looks like it will, I think I'm not gonna miss the boat this time around. time to invest in all war based stocks.