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Incorrect; Sitchin’s translations have been shown to be incorrect – which is why they are rejected. We can compare what he says they say with the geological, archaeological and other scientists to show he was wrong. We did that and guess what he is wrong
Sure we can – please present all evidence of ancient gold mining in the manner Sitchin claims, please present the facts that support his claim that man cannot move 200 ton stones even today, please present evidence that a planet can have a 3600 year orbit and not be detected, please present evidence of an atomic war and advance technology on earth, etc. .....again lets see the three top claims by this man you think haven’t been placed in the dumpster of fringe
Argument from emotion – they don’t make sense in the light of evidence – and what evidence would you accept? Certainly not scientific evidence, which you belittle – please out line the manner of evidence you would accept, lol
That has already been done, now if you want to you can believe them. I don't the scientific community does, but you are free to do as you like. Your refusal to accept that is your own deeply emotional problem. If you think the debunking of his work is in error please show were the errors are. Jumping up and down shouting that this hasn’t been proven isn’t going to work.
DOE teaches science as does the western world – what you believe is belief. I see you also concede the point on your claim that scientists follow ‘the guy at the top of the line’, yep you were wrong (note: take a look at which countries don’t teach evolution as part of science). It is taught as theory as all good science is.
Ah, so you back down again on another silly claim, okay we are making progress
Got another one wrong, eh? Yes once Gagarain (who was a human by the way, lol) went up they knew man could survive in space
Oh really? And who is in charge of that other "archeological" evidence? I am sure they are not friends with Sitchin and they have their own agenda. That is not valid evidence. I have no reason to trust or "believe" those others. If you wanna be their puppet, your decision. I stay impartial until clear evidence is provided.
This is what have been found so far about the ancient mines. If you donate the money, a group of people will gladly uncover everything and unearth the evidence once and for all. www.viewzone.com...
As far as moving not 200. But 1000 ton stones, I should just have replied "lol" however, it has been explained hundreds of times by engineers and machinery operators that we do not have the technology to move for example stones like the ones in baalbeck.
So...a planet with a 3,600 year orbit hasn't been found. Are you sure?
ok I know your emotions are running through the roof calling "conspiracy theory" and all those stupid cards. However, NO. NASA WILL NOT tell you the truth. Believe all you want like if Obama was your God, but NO. THEY WILL not tell you the truth. So you are basing your own emotional conclusions in what they tell you. That's your big problem. Oh and again, NO. THEY WILL NOT tell you the truth. Otherwise, prove it.
Common sense is based on logic, not emotion. I realized already you have the concepts wrong and never took critical thinking class. Why the ancient writing is not evidence? So the Declaration of Independence is not evidence of the Revolutionary War? or is only because it happened "yesterday" and since the other happened 8000 years ago that gives you the "right" to discredit their knowledge? Classic human opportunist behavior
Of course is not going to work because it cannot be proven wrong. Duh...In the case of the joke of evolution, there is no evidence that proves the transition into homosapiens. Only evidence of the previous creatures. That's why is a theory. A ridiculous one by the way.
Nope. Not belief. Again, this is out of your emotional daily life. Is based on logic and reason.
You are trying to change the topic. If you have evidence that American "scientistszzz" officialy took the Gagarin experience to update their assumptions, then publish it. Otherwise, the point is to put in evidence the ridicule conclusions "scientistszz" make based on nothing. But that's how easy is to manipulate average emotionals.
lol, well then not much point continuing the discussion is it as you just dismiss all evidence. But you never actually provide any evidence you just dismiss anything you don't like based on emotional bias. We’ll take that as an acceptance of the data which you cannot refute
lol, not evidence of massive gold workings – try again - but I can tell you as of yesterday no such evidence has been found
LOL, Eagleclaw making stuff up to support a guy who also made stuff up really doesn’t work. Are you actually stating that in the modern world we cannot move a 800 ton stone? The really big stone they didn’t move from the quarry. Confirm that claim for me please then I will show you evidence that yes we can move an eight hundred ton stone.......
Please look at how the Thunderstone was moved – then you can dismiss it
Yes, you might want to check on the effect on the orbits of other planets of such orbit
Ah, Eagleclaw using capitals means you are shouting – you seem to be the emotional one here, lol. Go back and read that rambling rant....you seem disturbed
It is but not the way Sitchin – who couldn’t read the language – tried to translate it as. He made stuff up based on what the ancients wrote
More unscientific nonsense – Eagleclaw I know you have difficulty with science but your dismissal of evidence doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist…so tell us of the theory you do believe that explains where humans came from.
Wrong again and do try to keep your emotions under control you appear to be having difficulty forming statements
More emotionally childish outbursts – Gagarin survived didn’t he?
Originally posted by Eaglecall
I am not the one who has to provide the evidence. The evidence was provided already by Sitchin. Now you prove he is wrong. If you emotionally prefer not to accpet the evidence because you don't "like" it, then that's your choice. The translations have been made, and the picture is almost completely clear.
I'll try again once you donate the money to keep going. It is expensive, and there is no tax payer money for these studies because they are "mythology"..... that's what the mainstream "scientistzzz" emotionally "believe"
That's how easy is to manipulate the masses....so only because humans succeed moving one megalithic stone, all of a sudden their emotions go out of wack and they are "Oh my God you see?? we can move it!! hence, ancient humans could move it too!" So do you imply that because we today can move one stone, means that the ancient could too? interesting. I didnt know Caterpillar was that old.
And where do you get that data from? Who says so?
No, disturbance is an emotion. This is based on reason. I understand you cannot tell the difference because you are an average human. The capitals only have the purpose of educating you.
What stuff he made up specifically?
I do not "believe". That is emotional. I understand your brain works entirely on emotion with zero logic. I "know" or "do not know". And on the case of the origins of Homo Sapiens, the only explanation is genetic intervention. Is the only theory that makes sense and put all the pieces together. "scientistszzz" decided to explain it inventing a clown in between the monkey and the human but it didn't work. They failed again.
Which statement for example?
That is the perfect line when somebody run out of arguments.
Originally posted by Rapha
Here are some facts/ideas.
Christians will classify the nephilim as angel/human hybrids.
I guess this stuff is making some eyes role. LOL
The reason why the nephilim of today are so p1ssed off with humans is because...Imagine this: Put a human child in a prison for life because their father deserted his/her mother when they were born. Torture them 24/7 in prison and let them die old.
Not justice is it?
Well this is what the nephilim are heading into right now, where the nephilim are going to the ultimate prison; hell, just because their fallen fathers raped human women and they are simply bastards. The Rephaim will be returning to Tartarus which is a dark, depressing and gloomy prison for them where they will reside with the fallen angels/watchers.
Now you can see why the nephilim hate humans.
Before I took thy mother Edna, I saw in a vision on my bed, and behold a bull came forth from the earth, and that bull was white; and after it came forth a heifer, and along with this (latter) came forth two bulls, one of them black and the other red. And that black bull gored the red one and pursued him over the earth, and thereupon I could no longer see that red bull. But that black bull grew and that heifer went with him, and I saw that many oxen proceeded from him which resembled and followed him. And that cow, that first one, went from the presence of that first bull in order to seek that red one, but found him not, and lamented with a great lamentation over him and sought him. And I looked till that first bull came to her and quieted her, and from that time onward she cried no more. And after that she bore another white bull, and after him she bore many bulls and black cows. And I saw in my sleep that white bull likewise grow and become a great white bull, and from Him proceeded many white bulls, and they resembled him. And they began to beget many white bulls, which resembled them, one following the other, (even) many.
Enoch 85:3-9
And again I saw in the vision, and looked towards the heaven, and behold I saw many stars descend and cast themselves down from heaven to that first star, and they became bulls amongst those cattle and pastured with them amongst them. And I looked at them and saw, and behold they all let out their privy members, like horses, and began to cover the cows of the oxen,and they all became pregnant and bare elephants, camels, and asses.
Enoch 86:3-5
And one of those four went to that white bull and instructed him in a secret, without his being terrified: he was born a bull and became a man, and built for himself a great vessel and dwelt thereon;
and three bulls dwelt with him in that vessel and they were covered in...
But that vessel floated on the water, while all the oxen and elephants and camels and asses sank to the bottom with all the animals, so that I could no longer see them, and they were not able to escape, (but) perished and sank into the depths.
But that white bull which had become a man came out of that vessel, and the three bulls with him, and one of those three was white like that bull, and one of them was red as blood, and one black: and that white bull departed from them.
And they began to bring forth beasts of the field and birds, so that there arose different genera: lions, tigers, wolves, dogs, hyenas, wild boars, foxes, squirrels, swine, falcons, vultures, kites, eagles, and ravens;
and among them was born a white bull. And they began to bite one another; but that white bull which was born amongst them begat a wild ass and a white bull with it, and the wild asses multiplied
Enoch 89
Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Matthew 13:24-30
Originally posted by sweetnlow
show me the giants, were the dinosaurs the giants????...lol
Originally posted by MrsBlonde
"the book Enoch one specifically states that the Nephilim are damned due to the sins of their fathers in breeding with women".
"God will not judge them for their sins nor do they have part of salvation".
Originally posted by coredrill
Just out of curiosity...
How did you come to the awareness that you are a rephaim/rapha?
What are the differences that are visible between a Human and a rephaim/rapha?
Do you have any powers that are manifested?
After a time, 3 my son Mathusala took a wife for his son Lamech. 2. She became pregnant by him, and brought forth a child, the flesh of which was as white as snow, and red as a rose; the hair of whose head was white like wool, and long; and whose eyes were beautiful. When he opened them, he illuminated all the house, like the sun; the whole house abounded with light. 3. And when he was taken from the hand of the midwife, opening also his mouth, he spoke to the p. 175 [paragraph continues] Lord of righteousness. Then Lamech his father was afraid of him; and flying away came to his own father Mathusala, and said, I have begotten a son, unlike to other children. 1 He is not human; but, resembling the offspring of the angels of heaven, is of a different nature from ours, being altogether unlike to us.
15. This child which is born to you shall survive on the earth, and his three sons shall be saved with him. When all mankind who are on earth shall die, he shall be safe. 16. And his posterity shall beget on the earth giants, not spiritual, but carnal. Upon the earth shall a great punishment be inflicted, and it shall be washed from all corruption. Now therefore inform thy son Lamech, that he who is born is his child in truth; and he shall call his name Noah, for he shall be to you a survivor. He and his children shall be saved from the corruption which shall take place in the world; from all the sin and from all the iniquity which shall be consummated on earth in his days. Afterwards shall greater impiety take place than that which had been before consummated on the earth; for I am acquainted with holy mysteries, which the Lord himself has discovered and explained to me; and which I have read in the tablets of heaven. 17. In them I saw it written, that generation after generation shall transgress, until a righteous race shall arise; until transgression and crime perish from off the earth; until all goodness come upon it.