Liberal Media is way more Powerful than Fox News:

Honestly, I think the liberals especially the die-hards have a mini heart attack whenever they hear the words FNC.

I mean they own Hollywood. They Own the News Media. NBC, CNBC, MSNBC (the worst), CNN, Bloomberg, CBS, They also own AOL, Huffington Post, New York Times, USA Today, Newsweek, The New Yorker, LA Times, Washington Post, many of the major tech companies, most of the newer energy companies etc...

Conservatives have: FOX News, FOX Business, WSJ, Washington Times, NY Post, and um...Newsbusters and non-mainstream sites like that.

So who is really the most powerful here huh liberals??

Liberals love to blow conservative power out of proportion. They think the tea party is some sort of evil underground satanic club that pulls strings so Mr. Obama cannot get anything done. No, he isn't getting anything done, because he's a poor leader!!! But liberals don't believe this because their news media is always telling them how great he is so they have to figure out some way to blame the evil Tea Party. As Joe Biden put it best, "The Tea Party are terrorists." What???

Why are conservatives constantly attacked and why to liberals think they have so much power for even having a voice in the mainstream news? Or even mainstream anything?

Talk about freedom of speech huh? If crazy religious nutjobs wanna turn on a channel to listen to that sort of stuff, why not let them?

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They dislike FOX because of its success…

As of January 2011, the Democratic Party-affiliated Public Policy Polling reports that Fox News Channel is the second-most trusted television news network in the country, with 42% of respondents reporting they trust the network, compared to other major news channels (behind PBS which stands at 50%, and ahead of NBC at 41%, CNN at 40%, CBS at 36%, and ABC at 35%).

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I am a recovering FOX fan. This year especially, I’ve seen FOX become just like the others. FOX has begun to use its influence to promote the Republican establishment’s agenda more and more. They’ve always done it but I see it getting worse now with all of the Romney BS they promote. The way they’ve completely dismissed candidates like Ron Paul and Rick Santorum is disgusting IMO. They need to drop the “fair and balanced” BS because they’re NOT! By openly carrying Romney’s water they can hardly be considered a “conservative” news source anymore; Romney is far from conservative.

Originally posted by jjf3rd77
...They think the tea party is some sort of evil underground satanic club that pulls strings so Mr. Obama cannot get anything done. ...

"The Tea Party are terrorists." What???

"Satanic"? Well...

...most, if not all Liberals do not go around thinking everything is satanic all the time. Thats the boogieman that is SO popular to the Conservatives in their fairy-tale worlds.

And the Tea Party CAN BE considered "terrorists"... terrorists to the economy if they were in charge...

Glad that the Tea Party is just a laughable joke now. A joke because it wasnt for the People, but for the wealthy and powerful. A movement hijacked by the wealthy to allow them MORE gain at the EXPENSE of the middle-class.

Honestly, [color=dodgerblue]I HATE both Conservatives and Liberals, but I REALLY HATE the Conservatives for how they like to SCREW the middle-class without any shame whatsoever.

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Yeah, I've noticed that Fox likes to play it safe, since they got rid of Glenn Beck. Mitt Romney has always been the moderate front runner. Can you just imagine if they "endorsed" someone like Rick Santorum, the liberal media would be screaming and hollering. He's anti-Gay blah, blah, blah. So it makes perfect sense for them to support Romney. And deny it all you want, but he's been the pretty consistent leader in this race no matter who becomes the front runner of the week Romney is always close behind.

I wonder why they are not favoring Michelle Bauchman, tho. I guess they don't want two sarah palin's. So that ship has sailed. They never really liked Newt and I guess they are even sick of guys like GWB (Rick Perry). Although his ads are everywhere on the channel.

It makes sense for FOX to promote the republican debates tho right? I mean, who else will? But I think there have been more useless debates this year.

But still FOX's power is nothing compared to what the liberals have. It's sickening that they don't want the conservatives to even have a say.

Originally posted by HangTheTraitors



And the Tea Party CAN BE considered "terrorists"... terrorists to the economy if they were in charge...


Honestly, [color=dodgerblue]I HATE both Conservatives and Liberals, but I REALLY HATE the Conservatives for how they like to SCREW the middle-class without any shame whatsoever.

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Really now??? Where is the proof of this. I would love to see what liberals have done for the middle class. Not the poor, the middle class! I actually always hear conservatives helping the middle class and the rich by creating jobs in the private sector and a suitable pro-business economy. When have liberals done anything but feed off the suffering of the poor?

So because the media isn't OPENLY partisan like Fox news, it's automatically "liberal?" (exception, MSNBC). IMO, Fox seeks to DIVIDE more than other news outlets (exception MSNBC) because it is openly partisan. THAT is the problem. While some might argue that Fox is a response to this "liberal" media, the fact that media are "liberal" is not so much a political leaning as a rational, 21st century method of explaining our current national disposition and changing socio-eco-political culture in a modern and more-or-less fair (balanced, unlike partisan Fox) way (and i am not going to bring the "can't trust the MSM" into this debate, because this is not about that).

I notice that you don't include radio, because the majority of talk radio across the country is conservative, and it's (IMO) dangerous, divisive partisan blathering because of the large number of people it reaches.

ETA: Hollywood? Mightn't there be a reason so much of the media, hollywood, universities, and everything else DOES have a liberal leaning? Perhaps because it's more tolerant, explains and accepts the changing world and our culture better, constitutes a largely rational, humanistic approach, and seeks to use rational thought and logical problem solving to understand our world better?

Maybe that's a reason so many things have a "liberal" leaning.

Originally posted by Liquesence
So because the media isn't OPENLY partisan like Fox news, it's automatically "liberal?" (exception, MSNBC). IMO, Fox seeks to DIVIDE more than other news outlets (exception MSNBC) because it is openly partisan. THAT is the problem. While some might argue that Fox is a response to this "liberal" media, the fact that media are "liberal" is not so much a political leaning as a rational, 21st century method of explaining our current national disposition and changing socio-eco-political culture in a modern and more-or-less fair (balanced, unlike partisan Fox) way (and i am not going to bring the "can't trust the MSM" into this debate, because this is not about that).

I notice that you don't include radio, because the majority of talk radio across the country is conservative, and it's (IMO) dangerous, divisive partisan blathering because of the large number of people its reaches.

Welll obviously only a liberal would say that most of hollywood and MSM isn't liberal because it's not conservative. Well WTH do you think a non-conservative thing is lolz? I've heard this stupid argument before and at least you are acknowledging MSNBC is liberal. Most don't.

Yeah, I didn't include Talk radio because not too many people even take it seriously where I am. maybe in the south and midwest they do. I'm not sure but I never hear about Talk Radio unless I'm watching FOX haha. Do you honestly think Talk Radio has that much power? Even less than FOX News. Probably people with no TVs in the backwoods listen to it.

Originally posted by jjf3rd77
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But still FOX's power is nothing compared to what the liberals have. It's sickening that they don't want the conservatives to even have a say.

The media (with the exception of MSNBC) does NOT openly support one side or the other UNLIKE Fox who OPENLY endorses conservatives and ONLY conservatives, no matter what. Granted, the owners of the media might push political agendas behind the scenes with stories and donations, and a media outlet might endorse a particular candidate, but they do NOT operate on an openly partisan basis, which Fox does.

Do you not see this?

I do not watch much television. I listen to a lot of AM radio. Now if you can tell me where to find the liberal media on AM radio I am all ears. Or does media just mean television? And do you consider a show like "Glee" liberal media and compare that to FOX news?

If the liberal media is the antithesis of Fox then what it is you are accusing Fox of being?

Originally posted by seabag
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They dislike FOX because of its success…

Is that why Republicans dislike Obama or is that just a really lame argument anywhere?

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How are you comparing Hollywood to FOX news?
How do you not know FOX is also part of Hollywood?

How exactly does it work?
Do you compare Sean Hannity to "Juno?"
How about Fox and Friends to "Transformers?"
O'Reilly to "Hostel III?"
How about the movies, ya know, from Hollywood, ya know, produced by Fox?

I am so very interested in how this all actually breaks down. I am certain it is not just myopic drivel.

Originally posted by Liquesence

Originally posted by jjf3rd77
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But still FOX's power is nothing compared to what the liberals have. It's sickening that they don't want the conservatives to even have a say.

The media (with the exception of MSNBC) does NOT openly support one side or the other UNLIKE Fox who OPENLY endorses conservatives and ONLY conservatives, no matter what. Granted, the owners of the media might push political agendas behind the scenes with stories and donations, and a media outlet might endorse a particular candidate, but they do NOT operate on an openly partisan basis, which Fox does.

Do you not see this?

Oh No???

How about GE Which Owned NBC and all of its counterparts in 2008. Jeff Immelt is right up there with Obama most of the time during his jobs speeches and whatnot or you see Obama hanging around GE with Immelt, plenty of times.

Better yet, how about Candidate Obama and how he went on all of the liberal outlets besides for FOX News until the bill o'reilly interview three years later!!!! Liberal outlets pretty much praised him as the savior of the world.

But saying that They are not endorsing a political agenda is silly if you only look back four years you will see that they did

Originally posted by jjf3rd77

Originally posted by Liquesence
So because the media isn't OPENLY partisan like Fox news, it's automatically "liberal?" (exception, MSNBC). IMO, Fox seeks to DIVIDE more than other news outlets (exception MSNBC) because it is openly partisan. THAT is the problem. While some might argue that Fox is a response to this "liberal" media, the fact that media are "liberal" is not so much a political leaning as a rational, 21st century method of explaining our current national disposition and changing socio-eco-political culture in a modern and more-or-less fair (balanced, unlike partisan Fox) way (and i am not going to bring the "can't trust the MSM" into this debate, because this is not about that).

I notice that you don't include radio, because the majority of talk radio across the country is conservative, and it's (IMO) dangerous, divisive partisan blathering because of the large number of people its reaches.

Welll obviously only a liberal would say that most of hollywood and MSM isn't liberal because it's not conservative. Well WTH do you think a non-conservative thing is lolz? I've heard this stupid argument before and at least you are acknowledging MSNBC is liberal. Most don't.

Yeah, I didn't include Talk radio because not too many people even take it seriously where I am. maybe in the south and midwest they do. I'm not sure but I never hear about Talk Radio unless I'm watching FOX haha. Do you honestly think Talk Radio has that much power? Even less than FOX News. Probably people with no TVs in the backwoods listen to it.

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I never said Hollywood wasn't liberal. That's your conservative liberal-persecution complex talking.

And in case you didn't comprehend what i said, when i speak of what you refer to as "liberal" media i am NOT speaking of partisanship. What do i think non-conservative is? Did you even pay attention or try to understand what i wrote? I am NOT talking about political leanings, even though political leanings incorporate these things. I am talking about a modernized method of understanding and education, which happens to be "liberal" and is a good thing for us. This is not the middle ages.

Media is "liberal" because it's modern. It seeks to use rational thought and logical problem solving to understand the world and report.

Radio, of course you don't mention it. It would dampen your argument and OP. Radio has a HUGE influence on people, a LOT of people listen to it a LOT of the time because a LOT of people spent time in their cars/trucks (where there is NO tv), so it is not confined to backwoods people with no tv.

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I'm not talking about Movies, but it's funny that liberals don't have a problem with FOX Movie studios or anything else owned by Murdoch on the Hollywood side of things. But you really took it out of context. I'm talking about News and those directly associated with news outlets. How liberals feel Fox has all this power when they really don't it's just a small fish in a big pond and they want to crush it to death because they want to maintain their monopoly over News Media as they did in Hollywood. I'm just not going to go into hollywood because I hate the people who pick apart movies to find conservative/liberal meanings in them.

FOX is like Carnival Barkers.

Those that fall for the propaganda spiel - - - belief FOX.

You don't converse intelligently with a FOX listener - - you exchange "talking points".

Real conversation requires independent thought.

Originally posted by Liquesence

That's your conservative liberal-persecution complex talking.

Only a Liberal would say this.

I am talking about a modernized method of understanding and education, which happens to be "liberal" and is a good thing for us. This is not the middle ages.

So all of conservatism is the middle ages, really? They don't have any good ideas?? Education needs to be liberal?? Really? I can't stand liberal classes, I would rather stick with my business courses and computer science course thank you very much. You know stuff that is actually profitable in the real world. Not trying to make the world something it can never be with so called rational thought. Point and laugh at the liberal bias in this post.

Media is "liberal" because it's modern. It seeks to use rational thought and logical problem solving to understand the world and report.

Again, FOX News is modern otherwise it wouldn't be on TV!!!!

Radio, of course you don't mention it. It would dampen your argument and OP. Radio has a HUGE influence on people, a LOT of people listen to it a LOT of the time because a LOT of people spent time in their cars/trucks (where there is NO tv), so it is not confined to backwoods people with no tv.

Nah, I think most people nowadays either listen to their Ipods, and crappy pop stations on the FM bands not AM religious nut Jobs.

Originally posted by Annee
FOX is like Carnival Barkers.

Those that fall for the propaganda spiel - - - belief FOX.

You don't converse intelligently with a FOX listener - - you exchange "talking points".

Real conversation requires independent thought.

If I didn't have independent thought I wouldn't be allowed to type this post by my FOX News overlords huh? But I see you didn't read my post anyway so I guess it doesn't matter what evidence I point out, you won't listen to anything with those three horrible words attached to it FOX

Originally posted by jjf3rd77

Originally posted by Annee
FOX is like Carnival Barkers.

Those that fall for the propaganda spiel - - - belief FOX.

You don't converse intelligently with a FOX listener - - you exchange "talking points".

Real conversation requires independent thought.

If I didn't have independent thought I wouldn't be allowed to type this post by my FOX News overlords huh? But I see you didn't read my post anyway so I guess it doesn't matter what evidence I point out, you won't listen to anything with those three horrible words attached to it FOX

FOX was MY station. Listened/watched it for many years.

I watched it become what it is today. And you are right - - I have zero desire to be brainwashed by FOX news.

I will never again listen to anything coming from those horrible words attached FOX.

Originally posted by Annee

FOX was MY station. Listened/watched it for many years.

I watched it become what it is today. And you are right - - I have zero desire to be brainwashed by FOX news.

I will never again listen to anything coming from those horrible words attached FOX.

Well I just hope you feel the same way as I do about the Liberal stations too and get your news from independent sources as I do. It's hard, but doable. At least social media is making it easier. But I still don't agree that just anybody on the internet can be a journalist.

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It makes sense for FOX to promote the republican debates tho right? I mean, who else will? But I think there have been more useless debates this year.

Absolutely! They should be all over the Republican debates. The problem I have is that they are doing what media do…they are trying to dictate which candidate we should vote for. If I hear so-and-so “can’t win” one more time I’m going to lose it!!!

But still FOX's power is nothing compared to what the liberals have. It's sickening that they don't want the conservatives to even have a say.

FOX is not as powerful as the combined liberal media machine but it is the most trusted news source as indicated by the ratings and polls. The problem is that there is little distinction between a moderate Democrat and a Republican these days. The Republican Party has abandoned conservatism. This is obvious by its nomination of people like John McCain and GWB…both of whom are far from conservative. And FOX was in full support of both men rather than getting behind more conservative candidates...same was true in the congessional races.

BUT….it’s all we’ve got!!! We sure won’t hear anything positive about conservatives from the rest of the MSM.