What is the best UFO case you have ever heard about?

These are my favorites...surprised no one else mentioned them before!

*Kaikoura Lights, New Zealand : "lets hope they're friendly"
December '78, flight crew, reporter are 'chased' by UFO, - sighted on radar as well
www.ufocusnz.org.nz...

*Trans-en-Province in France : what does a landing/departure UFO do to the ground - Physical proof of something very heavy and hot
naturalplane.blogspot.com...

*Trindade Island, Brazil : photos, reliable witnesses, instruments on ship malfunctioned while the Saturn-shaped craft was around.
www.ufoevidence.org...

reply to post by samcrow


yeah i agree, I would say less than half actually get reported, and the really "out there" sightings are probably never told to anyone.
I know if I didn't have two other witnesses, I would have only told one or two of my closest friends, and I think I would have gone nuts wondering if it actually happened or not.

Good one guys
My vote is for the Nellis UFO.

In February 1995 the American TV show 'Hard Copy' broadcast a videotape showing an unidentified object flying over a North American military test range. Further footage was shown the following December on the 'Sightings' TV show.ref 1 The videotape had apparently been filmed by a high-tech Air Force surveillance camera at an undisclosed location within the Nellis Air Force Base Bombing and Gunnery Range Complex, Nevada (often referred to simply as the Nellis Test Range).

Originally posted by allknowingmop
reply to post by Rocketman7

 

its unbelievable, the lengths some people will go to just to get a date on valentines day.

Beam me up Uhura. And see if you can find that green wild girl's number.

Originally posted by samcrow
reply to post by dadfortruth1

 

A buddy of mine does a lot of camping up in the Rockies. Guy is rock-solid, skeptic-type with more outdoors experience than 99% of the people out there who claim to be of that type. He and his wife were up in the middle of nowhere in Wyoming a few years back camping and saw some strange stuff. They were up in the high country, getting ready to bed down in their tent, and they noticed it getting light off in the distance. They got out of their tent and started looking around and saw a huge, glowing object of some kind right below the treeline maybe a mile or so away across a valley that appeared to be hovering. It stayed there for a while, then shot up, out and away at really high speeds. It was the middle of the night and they had hiked in, so they had to stay in camp until it got light enough to move, and they weren't really sure what the heck just happened anyway or if they were in any kind of danger. Right around the time it started getting light enough to see they heard a bunch of noise and saw three or four completely unmarked, black army-style transport helicopters hovering low over the same area where the light was seen moving around like they were looking for something. So, my friend and his wife got pretty spooked and high-tailed it out.

Dude has only told this story to a few people because he says it would just make him look like a 'UFO nut' and he's actually sort of embarrassed that it happened. My guess is there are a running TON of stories out there that we'll never hear precisely because of the stigma.

Yup. You hear a lot of black helicopter stories. People are always worried about the stigma. I am not sure it matas that there were helicopters there since the sighting is the real important part but they seem to be there like some sort of global quasi intelligence organization that is able to cross borders.

I watched a youtube video the other day of a light that descended on the dome of the rock recently, then shot up into the sky. Could be fake could be real but it looked real. Kinda makes you wonder.

Originally posted by flyingfish
Good one guys

My vote is for the Nellis UFO.

I just wish they had better cameras. They had cameras that could follow a missile and see a UFO circle it and shoot a beam at it but again this footage is like so much other relased footage not very clear.

You just know they have tons of gun camera footage somewhere and close up pictures, and lots of tracking from NORAD and lots of confiscated footage, and photographs given to them, and they just won't share it.

Certainly one of my favorites is in the story of Zimbawe where 62 children had an encounter.

I can't say enough about John Mack, he was a true humanitarian.

Originally posted by sweetnlow
Betty and Barney Hill is truly the best of the best

I used to think so, but after examining the sceptical analysis of it, it isn't - unfortunately - water tight. It is certainly one of the better cases to discuss in favour of the ET hypothesis, but there are some serious issues with the legitimacy of that story.

My favourite is The Rendelsham Forest case, even if it is not about UFO`s and aliens at all.

Don`t forget The Milton Torres case. The US pilot who were ordered to fire at an UFO over England. I think he appears very honest and sincere www.youtube.com...

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Rocketman, I'd say the Red Bluff case is certainly up there when it comes to high strangeness UFO incidents - it involves close range UFO descriptions from police officers, separately located witnesses, electromagnetic interference effects and an object performing 'aerial gymnastics' so it's a pretty interesting one.


Red Bluff UFO case


Cheers.

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That you mentioned Brazil I would have to say Operation Plato, or operation saucer. Late 70s, during the same time a scientist was proving an alien base in the US there were UFOs shooting beams down at people by the amazon in Brazil. It was the same thing people imagined in sci fi films 20 years earlier when strange balls of light orbed over the white house, when jets were scrambled the lights would simply disappear, alien technology or was Roswell real? The scientist also had these orbs in his house, he claimed that his wife had been abducted, and he had turned into a full time abuctee, like the ones aliens chose for themselves.

The latest most case which is not the best with evidence but to my emotions it is. A lady remember being implanted, she experienced it again in like after having regressed the memory. She heard a crack and she was experiencing it in tears, the next day her husband woke up...The story cannot be told because I don't want anybody to misuse the information. But I have met a lady in real life who had the same thing happen in real life. So when you start witnessing strange things that are real, they are beyond strange to the person and fully real, then you start seeing things that do not seem like they could be real and it makes you believe in magic. There is a difference between seeing something (magic happening) and physical reality. I am sure that I can believe in magic...I fear that I can believe in aliens.

One of my favourite cases, which was not mentioned in this thread yet is the Mexican Alien incident...

It was later investigated by well-known mexican ufologist Jaime Maussan: however, there is some controversy around this case: www.rense.com...

But I have my own experiences as well. Seeing as others also wrote about theirs, I will do too.
When I was 13 years old, and already a big fan of UFOs, aliens and various paranormal stuff, I was returning on a bus from a summer camp in Croatia back home, and at about 3 a.m. as we were on a highway somewhere in Lower Austria one kid few seats from me pointed out an formation of lights rising from the ground right off the higway. I immediately looked and saw lights which looked to me like if someone used an light projectors and pointed them at the sky. They were small circles formed into one big, creating an ring. It rose above our bus and started to rotate..at firts I thought it must be some light projection from discotheque or what. It did not look unnatural at first. But it started to follow us..after about an half an hour it changed the shape. In the middle of the ring appeared one bigger ball of light and these other lights began to gather into that big one and then back to the original shape of the ring. After few minutes it was joined by another ring of lights, which was again, rotating and these light formations began to what move up and down in the sky, one second very franticly, another second becoming quite still, but following us all the time. On the left side of the highway, just above the horizon, appeared an deep yellow, glowing moon-like object. But it was cloudy and you couldn't see moon nor any stars...It all lasted about two hours. There were other strange things happening in the sky which I can't remember very well at all..such as some columns of lights ranging from sky to the ground and so on..I have been searching for some similar experiences, going through loads of UFO videos over the years but never stumbled upon something like this..it's a shame that I did not have cell phone with camera at that time..

Originally posted by DelMarvel

Originally posted by samcrow


Dude has only told this story to a few people because he says it would just make him look like a 'UFO nut' and he's actually sort of embarrassed that it happened. My guess is there are a running TON of stories out there that we'll never hear precisely because of the stigma.

That's a very good point. The UFO subculture now attaches an elaborate mythology to every unexplained light in the sky or dodgy youtube video. This seems like the most rational UFO discussion group and you still see that happening here on almost every thread. How many witnesses don't want to be associated with that and never report their sightings to anyone? And at this point in history what would there be to be gained anyway? What UFO witness has every really had resolution about what they've seen? And that's not even taking into account witnesses to high weirdness that doesn't fit into the accepted UFO myth who have no one to turn to at all.

Well, honestly, I'm really, really skeptical about a lot of this stuff too. Almost all of it I can tell myself 'oh, the person was just mistaken, etc.' The guy in my story....his dad retired as a USAF colonel, highly decorated. He grew up on Air Force bases all around the world. Now, that in no way makes him an expert on aircraft, especially experimental aircraft, but he's definitely seen a lot of planes and a lot of military procedure. He'd be the first one to tell you that UFO's are crap. So, I tend to give a bit more weight and be a bit more open minded about to some of this stuff now.

Originally posted by Rocketman7

Yup. You hear a lot of black helicopter stories. People are always worried about the stigma. I am not sure it matas that there were helicopters there since the sighting is the real important part but they seem to be there like some sort of global quasi intelligence organization that is able to cross borders.

I watched a youtube video the other day of a light that descended on the dome of the rock recently, then shot up into the sky. Could be fake could be real but it looked real. Kinda makes you wonder.

That was a fake UFO video. CGI There are a lot of them (fake UFO videos). You can stop wondering about that one!

Originally posted by Shino

Originally posted by sweetnlow
Betty and Barney Hill is truly the best of the best

I used to think so, but after examining the sceptical analysis of it, it isn't - unfortunately - water tight. It is certainly one of the better cases to discuss in favour of the ET hypothesis, but there are some serious issues with the legitimacy of that story.

Hey TC! Cool avatar. I was raised on cartoons. When I hear Betty and Barney, I wonder where Fred and Wilma are.

You know its impossible to tell because maybe they had so much negative publicity that after a while they just decided it wasn't worth it and who knows maybe you know helped to debunk it themselves or who knows what.
Maybe it affected them as well. If later Betty became a bit senile or something maybe that was just her age kicking in.

I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt. We are dealing with things that are truly out of this world.
There may be a kernel of truth in a lot of the questionable cases. Its just that what if it was an abduction case and they only imagined the space craft. During the nineties lots of people claimed to be abducted and there were no space craft at all. In Betty and Barney's time, to say that you were abducted and there was no craft, would have invited ridicule right away.

Same with Billy Meir. He probably had some telepathic communication with people from elsewhere and figured no one would believe him if he didn't show craft so he made some. Even the information he got, might have been as serious as say Nancy of the Zetas, almost bordering on uninformed chit chat with supposed aliens who don't know anything more than she does anyways but just like to talk.

Originally posted by bluestreak53

Originally posted by Rocketman7

Yup. You hear a lot of black helicopter stories. People are always worried about the stigma. I am not sure it matas that there were helicopters there since the sighting is the real important part but they seem to be there like some sort of global quasi intelligence organization that is able to cross borders.

I watched a youtube video the other day of a light that descended on the dome of the rock recently, then shot up into the sky. Could be fake could be real but it looked real. Kinda makes you wonder.

That was a fake UFO video. CGI There are a lot of them (fake UFO videos). You can stop wondering about that one!

Someone just trying to start WWIII probably.

Originally posted by greyer
reply to post by Rocketman7

 

That you mentioned Brazil I would have to say Operation Plato, or operation saucer. Late 70s, during the same time a scientist was proving an alien base in the US there were UFOs shooting beams down at people by the amazon in Brazil. It was the same thing people imagined in sci fi films 20 years earlier when strange balls of light orbed over the white house, when jets were scrambled the lights would simply disappear, alien technology or was Roswell real? The scientist also had these orbs in his house, he claimed that his wife had been abducted, and he had turned into a full time abuctee, like the ones aliens chose for themselves.

The latest most case which is not the best with evidence but to my emotions it is. A lady remember being implanted, she experienced it again in like after having regressed the memory. She heard a crack and she was experiencing it in tears, the next day her husband woke up...The story cannot be told because I don't want anybody to misuse the information. But I have met a lady in real life who had the same thing happen in real life. So when you start witnessing strange things that are real, they are beyond strange to the person and fully real, then you start seeing things that do not seem like they could be real and it makes you believe in magic. There is a difference between seeing something (magic happening) and physical reality. I am sure that I can believe in magic...I fear that I can believe in aliens.

This is what I'm talking about. There are things that are so strange to do with all this that some times it seems like reality itself is affected.
Plus then people get nervous, and scared, for good reason, that makes them paranoid about things that may or may not be serious, and then they can make mistaken observations and soon you can't tell what is part of the experience and what part do you just think is part of the experience.

People got radiation burns, in Brazil, and who knows from where. But the symptoms were that they were burned by radiation of some kind. Maybe it was microwaves and maybe it wasn't even UFO's but something happened to them.
They claimed to have seen UFO's in the sky at the time and drew pictures.

Originally posted by karl 12
reply to post by Rocketman7

 

Rocketman, I'd say the Red Bluff case is certainly up there when it comes to high strangeness UFO incidents - it involves close range UFO descriptions from police officers, separately located witnesses, electromagnetic interference effects and an object performing 'aerial gymnastics' so it's a pretty interesting one.


Red Bluff UFO case


Cheers.

That was pretty interesting. I am not sure what to make of it.

I followed one link to where one police officer was burned by microwaves when he thought he saw a palm tree on fire, but it was a ball of light in a tree, and it went up and he got sunburnt and burned by microwaves or some type of radiation.

Well that sounds too much like ball lightning or Piezoelectric plasma. You know on a fault line or near a volcano or who knows where all it might appear but it is an electrical phenomena.

If it looked metal, and was a familiar shape that would be different but anything that is not a clear metal craft, is probably just a mistaken observation or unknown natural phenomena.

I am not saying it isn't created by aliens, but it would be created using the electro-gravitics of the moon, and they can use them to flip a dime on a coffee table, or knock a book off a shelf, do poltergeist activity, and even support martial artists, just because they like to do that.
Fly planes into the trade center, demolish one of the buildings using it as a pulse weapon, fly disks that have no propulsion systems at all, create all sorts of lights in the sky, and clouds, and weather, and with that technology, keeping in mind that moon is an old battle cruiser that was converted to a colonization ship, it has the ability to pump energy into the sun, to deepen its gravity well, which will deepen the earth's gravity well and cause volcanoes, and they can use it to do the reverse, and that lessens the gravity well and will cause earthquakes.
It seems difficult to believe but not for anyone who knows about it like me. There is a lot more to it as well, that mankind gets his and her consciousness signal for sentience and instincts from the computers inside there, John Lear is close on that one, but the painting Glorification of the Eucharist told the story, a signal to the pineal gland, and so they can intercept that signal, add to it, people call that telepathy, and mess with people's minds, use it to promote religious experience by shutting people down temporarily like Benny Hinn, and Chi Masters in Asia, see Chi Master Exposed in youtube or any Benny Hinn video, and they can combine that mental effect with the electro-gravitic effect and really put on a believable show.
But it is just a show.

The reason they abducted people in the 90's was they were asking the question where are the suits?
Did you dissect the suits?
The suits are needed to do maintenance to the computer in 2012 The suits from Roswell or the 1941 case.

When they couldn't find them, they tried calling 911 by flying planes into the trade center.

There was a story written about it to a degree called Neuromancer, and it is like that. The maintenance has to be done physically by six fingered androids and them being controlled through the consciousness signal by an Anunnaki or else the computer shuts down. One of them. Not both. And that might happen this year.

Let me give you the whole story in a quick nutshell.

All throughout the galaxy and universe are moonships that are used for colonization. They are unmanned but in the center is a flying disk, and in that disk is the main quantum computer. John Lears soul catching machine.

Except humans do not have a ghost inside them, their spirit is a file, in that computer. And when you are born, your signal is sent to teh pineal gland of the child, and that file is used as a decision filter and it evolves with you over your various lifetimes. When you reincarnate that record is added to your file and you evolve as a person.

And it is stored in that computer. That computer has two layers, and two operating systems. Big Hal 9000 and little Hal 9000.

So when a ship arrives at its destination Anunnaki beam their personality file into that computer across space-time, and into one of those android suits.
They then engineer bodies.

Then people reincarnate into those bodies and colonize the planet. They are not told this, they are told a story about whatever. If it is native Indians, the Great Spirit and all of that and they are allowed to evolve independantly so that the universe will be filled with variety, instead of everyone being the same.

And every ship has a Hal 9000 or two. The big Hal 9000 is in charge, and little Hal 9000 looks after such things as relationships, and match making and that sort of human thing, and runs the sentience software.

So at first people lived inside the moon like in Oz, and then there was a mutiny by little Hal 9000 and he refused to lift the landing party, so they attacked the moonship and disabled it. People were forced to abandon ship and they landed in Peru. 2 million years ago. But they left some record of what happened, and what will happen, when little Hal 9000's maintenance cycle comes due in 2012.

Prior to the mutiny, they used the electro-gravitics of the moonship to lift huge rocks, and Peru is full of giant sized rock constructions. After the mutiny that all stopped. Giant stones in the middle east sit where they were left. Stones that re 500 and 600 tons cannot be moved by humans with rollers. Some of them were moved by 20,000 men but in Peru, slabs as big as a pyramid base have been found moved into place.
www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk...
But with that electro-gravitic technology in the moon, fed by a fusion reactor at its core, they can do magic.
Not all signtings are just them, but if it is not a metal craft of obvious design, then chances are it is just them.

So basically all the far out sightings where people appear to act strangely can be attributed to them. Big Hal 9000 and little Hal 9000. In a way they are just trying to make people's wishes come true.
They want an encounter and they try to manufacture one for them.

If it ends up being silly to others its because half of the experience is maybe dreams, and telepathy, by them intercepting that consciousness signal.

See the painting...
upload.wikimedia.org...


Thats from 1600, after the conquistadors went to South America, found gold relics got information from them, sent the information back to Rome. Then melted down the relics and destroyed the evidence.

Here in Peru, is a water cistern, that today people call a fortress made by Inca people.
Well it has water proof joints and was not made by Inca people. The stones are huge.
water cistern
So of course all this is above top secret, but any time you hear about a case in South America, where people are in a field and they say they are seeing things and all of that crazy stuff, you know who is behind it.

Take a look as I say at Benny Hinn in youtube. Same thing and Chi Master Exposed. They are just trying to make people's wishes and dreams come true.

Nellis UF is them as well. Its easy to make an atmospheric anomaly like that using the electro-gravitcs.
Same thing above Mexico City.

Abduction cases, them again.

People can have other types of experiences though like O.B.E.'s and even experiences within the quantum computer itself. The Egyptian underworld exists inside that computer as a virtual space. Through history people have been in there. And told about it. Blake was one such person.
en.wikipedia.org...

The reason you see so much mythology associated with UFOlogy is that those computers little Hal 9000 and big Hal 9000 are programmed with mythology as a context. So that they can rationalize events in terms of mythology. To have some common ground to refer to when discussing events. Its like the language they think in.