What is the best UFO case you have ever heard about?

Originally posted by Violence
reply to post by Rocketman7

 

Please tell me this isn't another attempt at trying to talk about that fake ass UFO video you uploaded? You've mentioned it in this thread again 2-3 times already..

It got put into the hoax bin for a reason. Please don't turn this topic into a deranged rant about the FAKE UFO video.

Staying on subject, Rendlesham Forest incident and Westall UFO.

You back again?

Westfall is an excellent case.

Rendlesham forest, is a good case as well, but there is something about that case that never sat well with me.

And I think that often you see competition between America and Britain for who is the most favorite nation of our alien overlords. And here you see an American base on British soil, (or the American airforce using the base) and a joining of hands to say, lets just say we are both in bed with our alien masters then shall we? Zorg will be pleased. This after the American missle silos were visted by flying disks and the missles put out of commission. So you see politics in the UFO arena as part of the global move towards glasnost.

Something that some people might have missed with Westfall, and the video just posted about it, was the guy who saw the disk at night, when he was in his car, his headlights, the light, was drawn towards the disk as it hovered, which is what you would expect, with electro-gravitics where space-time is warped.
Facinating. The light from his headlights of his car, was bent towards the disk.

What is the best UFO case you have ever heard about? Gulf Breeze.

The best UFO case isn't the one you've heard about. It's always the one(s) you've experienced yourself. Most don't truly believe until they experience it for themselves. When you do, you know we aren't alone.

Nothing can substitute a personal experience. Well, youtube and newspapers can't.

Originally posted by TeaAndStrumpets

Originally posted by Rocketman7

Yeah that was a great case. Listening to the radio chatter there as they chased this thing was exciting.

But then the story seemed to peter out to just a light near the end. Or the planet Venus.

They chased the planet Venus across 3 counties. lol

Isn't it amazing how these things unfold? First its an alien craft 50 feet in diameter 20 feet in the air hovering in a cul de sac and police are on the scene. But then by the end of the story it is the planet Venusssssss.

edit on 1-1-2012 by Rocketman7 because: (no reason given)

Where do you get this information that the Illinois cops were "chasing Venus"? Because that very lame explanation does not comport AT ALL to the testimony of the witnesses (mostly police officers) or to the tran.audio of their communications that night.

Are people really so intellectually careless as to accept "Venus"as a reasonable explanation for those events?

Well I am going vaguely from memory. Didn't someone in the end climb a water tower or something and then say well that might be it in the sky way over there, that looks like it might be a star or a planet, it is sparkling red green and blue and then it became Venus.

Basically the point I was making that it started out as if the disk was right there in a cul de sac and the cops were right there too, then as the radio conversation progresses, what they saw gets more vague and more vague and less like a disk and more like a light in the sky.

Originally posted by SayonaraJupiter
What is the best UFO case you have ever heard about? Gulf Breeze.

Ah yes Gulf Breeze. Ed Walters.

A Florida contractor who one evening looks outside and sees a flying object that looks like a spinning top.

He grabs his camera and runs into the yard and the thing is right above him.

As he paused in the street to take more photos of the strange object, it began to hover almost directly over his head. Walters was then hit by a bright bluish beam which shot from the object. He was literally lifted from the ground by its force. It was then that he heard a voice say, "Don't worry, we will not harm you." Images began to enter his mind.

Ed stated the images were revealed to him "as if they were turning the pages of a book" The next thing Walters remembered was waking up. The glowing UFO was nowhere to be seen.

Originally posted by MysticPearl
The best UFO case isn't the one you've heard about. It's always the one(s) you've experienced yourself. Most don't truly believe until they experience it for themselves. When you do, you know we aren't alone.

Nothing can substitute a personal experience. Well, youtube and newspapers can't.

Have you had a personal encounter of any kind? Saw a disk or anything tangible?
Got any photos or anything?

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yes, very true.
My own sighting was the most convincing thing for me, but i witnessed it first hand. The op asked about the best case we have heard of.

If only I had a camera at the time, it would have been the best UFO video of all time

A case very similar to Westfall occurred in 1994 in Zimbawe.

On September 16th, 1994, teachers and school officials at the Ariel school in Ruwa, Zimbabwe, were amazed when the school's students, aged approximately five to twelve years old, reported seeing that a strange flying object had landed on the school grounds during morning recess.

Originally posted by dadfortruth1
reply to post by MysticPearl

 

yes, very true.
My own sighting was the most convincing thing for me, but i witnessed it first hand. The op asked about the best case we have heard of.

If only I had a camera at the time, it would have been the best UFO video of all time

Well you can still tell us about it. How far away were you, what type of craft did it resemble that sort of thing.

The best UFO case ? .... that's easy , it has to be the 1976 Iran UFO incident .

Alongside the report there was a form from the DIA which assessed the quality of the report. The form indicated in checked boxes that the content was of high value, that the report was confirmed by other sources, and that the utility of the information was potentially useful to them. The form from the DIA also stated the following:

"An outstanding report. This case is a classic which meets all the criteria necessary for a valid study of the UFO phenomenon:

a) The object was seen by multiple witnesses from different locations (i.e., Shamiran, Mehrabad, and the dry lake bed) and viewpoints (both airborne and from the ground).

b) The credibility of many of the witnesses was high (an Air Force general, qualified aircrews, and experienced tower operators).

c) Visual sightings were confirmed by radar.

d) Similar electromagnetic effects (EME) were reported by three separate aircraft.

e) There were physiological effects on some crew members (i.e., loss of night vision due to the brightness of the object).

f) An inordinate amount of maneuverability was displayed by the UFOs."

The incident is regarded by a number of UFO researchers to be one of the premier UFO encounters ever recorded. Some researchers consider it strong evidence for the extraterrestrial origins of the UFO because there was a blackout on the F-4 just when it was going to fire and because of instrumental breakdowns on two different aircraft while they were on the chase. A military spy satellite also recorded this incident. The DSP-1 satellite detected an infrared anomaly during the time of this event that lasted for about an hour.
en.wikipedia.org...

FOIA Report PDF
foia.abovetopsecret.com...

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I was going to make a thread on it one day, i'm just not sure i need the flak i'll recieve.

The craft i saw was a deep amber in colour, it had no sound, it was about the size of a large family car, and it was sphere shape from a distance, but more oval/saucer shape when it was near eye level.

two friends and myself observed this craft for around 20 mins. the closest range we witnessed it was around 100ft away. It showed intelligent maneuvers as well as maneuvers that make our aircraft look like horse drawn carriages.

Originally posted by gortex
The best UFO case ? .... that's easy , it has to be the 1976 Iran UFO incident .

Yeah that was a good case. I remember when it came out through FOIA request. It was at that same time that a concerted effort was being put on governments to release any and all information. Roswell was revisted, a senator launched an enquiry as well, and the NAVY released a ton of stuff including some stuff regarding the Philadelphia Experiment and then there was so much stuff released, including CIA documents, that Google set up a separate search engine just for all that information.

I remember being pissed off that the CIA blacked out so much of their stuff to the point where you have to wonder why they bothered to release it at all, but they felt obligated to follow suit since other branches of government were cooperating and being so open about everything.

In the end, my opinion was that NAVAL command was the most forthcoming, and the most cooperative, yet in all the stuff I reviewed, I really didn't see anything that was any more enlightening, or revealing than say that Iran incident.
The Philadephia experiment stuff was good, but never said that it happened, just that it might have, could have, and that there was an incident in Philadelphia regarding radar experiments etc.
The ships existed, and the scientists who were claimed to be doing the experiments also existed, but nothing more was said to my knowledge.

I came away from all that thinking well, if thats the extent of their cooperation, to merely placate, then its a waste of time now and forever expecting them to ever truly cooperate.

You will get much more information, from children at Westfall and Zimbawe, than grown men are capable in high places. And thats a fact. Right up to their death bed confessions, which often have to be pried out of them, they are scared little rabbits. Who knows why. Afraid of dieing? Everybody dies. Afraid of what?
People face horrors in war, like Vietnam, they face horrors every day everywhere that are almost beyond belief, in every day life,yet people are terrified to the very core of their existence. Too terrified to speak truthfully about visitation?
There has to be so much more to all this than we know about.
If it was that they were from teh future, and if people talked about it or things were known it would alter the future, that might explain part of it, but no one ever says thats the case. Surely they would.

They merely say they were threatened and told it was national security and they just kept it secret?

Its all quite strange. But for me, 62 school children did not make up the story in ZImbawe, and neither did they at Westfall.
And those encounters had nothing whatsoever to do with military. But the military and governments would have a stake in suppressing their existence if it meant that people might question who is in a position of authority on earth. And maybe not be so easily intimidated by authority.

In Zimbawe, that young girl who said she thinks they were telling them the world was going to end. Thats a common theme, and that is exactly what they were telling them. And I know why.

Westall.

The word is Westall.

Originally posted by dadfortruth1
reply to post by Rocketman7

 

I was going to make a thread on it one day, i'm just not sure i need the flak i'll recieve.

The craft i saw was a deep amber in colour, it had no sound, it was about the size of a large family car, and it was sphere shape from a distance, but more oval/saucer shape when it was near eye level.

two friends and myself observed this craft for around 20 mins. the closest range we witnessed it was around 100ft away. It showed intelligent maneuvers as well as maneuvers that make our aircraft look like horse drawn carriages.

Amazing.

Well I suppose its difficult to actually say what a craft might look like when it might be distorting the fabric of space-time around it. Often you hear about the craft looking like it changes shape etc.

I wouldn't worry about the flack. I have been in the hoax bin. Lots of people have. You would be in good company if you end up there.

I heard a report once from a guy who had a remote cabin in Alaska, and he was there all alone. And he saw a 50 foot blue glowing flying disk come over the hill and just hovered there in front of him for a few minutes, then took off back into space. All you could probably think of was I wish I had one of those.

Originally posted by Violence
Westall.

The word is Westall.

Westall. I stand corrected.

What about J-rod? Did anyone else get hooked on the story of J-rod?

That had me glued to my seat for the longest time. What was the long and the short of all that anyhow?


Lions and tigers and bears Oh My!

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ok, I will make a thread on my sightings over the next day or two.
it happened just over 5 years ago now, but i think about it every day! I will never forget it.

We reported this particular sighting with "N.S.W UFO research" www.ufor.asn.au... a few days later they gave me a phone interview.

I recently got back in contact with them to see if I could get a transcript of the phone interview. the out-come is an interesting part of the story in it's self.

I'm not a big fan of the 'best lists' threads, but for #s and giggles...why not?

1959 - Father Gill and 30+ witnesses describe seeing a saucer craft with a bunch of folk waving at them. Nobody has managed to debunk this sighting despite attempts at Venus and trick of the eye confusion with squid boats.



1961 - Barney and Betty Hill. A case so unusual that the explanations are as hard to accept as the notion they were really taken aboard a craft. Enough's been said about the case already so I'll leave it there.

1965 - Exeter sighting - three decent witnesses report a UFO flying overhead at very low altitude and are told they saw scintillating stars and a temperature inversion. The USAF later retracted their explanations. Listening to the vehemence of Muscarillo in a radio show from the time highlights how unusual the incident was. On the same night, 100s of miles away in Damon, Texas, two sheriffs described a huge UFO approaching to within a 100 metres and casting a huge shadow from the moon.



There's no sensible way of denying that the best cases are probably behind us. They tailed off in the 1970s and left much of ufology rehashing the past and reminiscing about when UFOs had a material quality. The physical effect cases have almost disappeared. So it was pretty good when a BBC reporter claimed to have seen a good old-fashioned 'flying saucer just last year in 2011!

Disc shaped craft is seen near Stansted



Sure, there are a few more that could be added, but I'll leave it at this.

Originally posted by dadfortruth1
reply to post by Rocketman7

 

ok, I will make a thread on my sightings over the next day or two.
it happened just over 5 years ago now, but i think about it every day! I will never forget it.

We reported this particular sighting with "N.S.W UFO research" www.ufor.asn.au... a few days later they gave me a phone interview.

I recently got back in contact with them to see if I could get a transcript of the phone interview. the out-come is an interesting part of the story in it's self.

Cool. I will watch for your thread.

The coyne ufo case is a great case. multiple witneses and reliable witneses. Debunkers claimed what they were seeing was a meteor shower lol