who are the Sephardim bloodlines?

(posts from theberg he said i can use them and repost them here, he studies this stuff)

theberg - 7 Sep'04 - 21:04 - 10240 of 10470

Feeling Lucky,

IT IS NOT VAGUELY AMUSING, NOW ANSWER THE QUESTIONS!

How do you explain Adolf Hitler's alleged descendency as an illegitimate Grandson of Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild following his grandmother working as a maid for the Rothschilds in Vienna then?

How kind in reality are Sephardim towards Ashkenazim, and why was the Nazi or Anti Ashkenazi Party formed from the Bavarian Illuminati Thule Society roots of Adam Weinsraupt?

Come on pull the other one, we all know Bankers in Switzerland, New York and London financed the rebuilding of the German War Machine and needed to secure repayment of Weimar Republic Armistice Debts via UBC Union Banking Corporation in Switzerland.

The bottom line is behind a heinious warcrime like the Holocaust there is a motive.

That motive has American fingerprints from Harriman Prescott Bush to Henry Ford to The London Connection To the Pope all over it.

The common link in every case is Freemasonary and the Zionist Qaballah Religion.

Most people are now aware The Polish Pale Of Settlement was to keep Ashkenazim out of the Holy Roman Empire of Europe thus protecting Sephardim bloodlines.

The Holocaust was a natural progression as Polish and Ukrainian Ashkenazim populations exploded.

Screaming Anti Semite at anyone who asks who benefitted from it, who financed it, who organised it and why just does not wash any longer.

Ice

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Truth stranger than fiction



Hebrews 2:16 For surely it is not with angels that he is
concerned but with the descendants of Abraham.

The identification of the descendants of Abraham is an important factor in understanding bible prophecy. The truth is that there are a great number of nations that are descended from Abraham and heir to the promises made by God to Abraham. However, not only those promises to Abraham but also the earlier Birthright promises and blessings made by Noah to his sons.

The Tribal origin of these nations and also the identity of the English-Speaking people presents us with the necessary keys to unlocking both history and Biblical Prophecy. These keys provides us with the reason for the remarkable present privileges of the sons of Abraham and foretell the upcoming destruction of both America & Great Britain and the re-organisation of the world order.

Many people will be surprised to discover their true ethnic origins and the fact that ultimately all nations will be involved within the greater family of Abraham.

Find out more about the purpose of the Abraham's Legacy website.


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Originally posted by ThePunisher
The common link in every case is Freemasonary and the Zionist Qaballah Religion.

The only common link I see is your above quote. Is it your expectation that we should take your one sentence as evidence.?

Big shrug.
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The Holocaust was a natural progression as Polish and Ukrainian Ashkenazim populations exploded.

encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com...

Before World War II World War II was the most extensive and costly armed conflict in the history of the world, involving the great majority of the world's nations, being fought simultaneously in several major theatres, and costing approximately 55.5 million lives. The war was fought between two groups of powers - the alliance of the British Commonwealth, United States, Soviet Union, governments-in-exile of France and other European countries occupied by Germany and Italy, and China � collectively known as the Allies; and the alliance of Germany, Italy, and Japan�collectively known as the Axis, and minor countries.
..... Click the link for more information. the now Polish lands were noted for the richness and variety of their ethnic communities.

Before the World War II period there were significant ethnic minorities: 4.5 million Ukrainians Ukrainians are a Slavic people of central-eastern Europe. They are the descendants of several people who inhabited the vast area extending from north of Black Sea to the borders of Russia, Poland, Moldova, Belarus and Slovakia. Ukraine had a very turbulent history, a fact justified by its geographical position. It was the first Scandinavian settlers who founded the Kingdom of Kyiv (Kyivan Rus), long before Kyivan Rus leader Volodymyr accepted Christianity in 988.
..... Click the link for more information. , 3 million Jews, 1 million Belarusians Belarusians, also spelt Belarussians, Byelorussians and Belorussians are a distinct ethnic group of East Slavs who are the major population of Belarus, also being minorities in the neighboring Poland (especially Bialystok province), Russia, Lithuania and Ukraine. Noticeable numbers are in emigration in the USA and Canada.

The prefix "Bela" can be translated into 'White' so these people are sometimes called White Russians though not to be confused with the political group of white Russians that opposed Bolsheviks during the Russian Civil War.
..... Click the link for more information. , and 800,000 Germans. The majority of the Jews were murdered by the National Socialists For other meanings of the term National Socialism see National Socialism (disambiguation)

Nazism or National Socialism (German Nationalsozialismus) or Hitlerism is the totalitarian ideology of the dictatorship which ruled Germany from 1933 to 1945: the 'Third Reich'. In this ideology, the German nation and the purported "Aryan" race were considered superior to all other races. Nazism is usually associated with Fascism.
..... Click the link for more information. during the occupation in World War II and many others emigrated in the succeeding years.

Does not sound quite what you have reported does it ?

sorry about the extra text , it prints out all the links on copy paste.

THE FOUR HORSEMEN OF THE
APOCALYPSE

REVELATION Chapter 6



"And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a BOW; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."

The white horse represents the horse upon which God's Witness (Rev. 19 v 11 & 1 v 5) (Isaiah 43 v 12) rides, as in Revelation 19 v 11.

The TRUE Israel People have, on their "Coat of Arms", a lion and a unicorn which is shown as a white horse with one horn. The lion is the main emblem of the two-tribed "House of Judah" and the unicorn is the main emblem of the ten-tribed "House of Israel".

The "Coat of Arms" is therefore the rightful property of the 12 tribes of ISRAEL and Christ their KING. The word British is Hebrew meaning "the People of the Covenant" (Israel).

However, in this instance referred to in Rev. 6 v 2, the person riding the white horse and witnessing for God (Isaiah 43 v 12) is Joseph, who carried a BOW.

If you refer to Genesis 49 v 23 you will see, from the cross-referencing, that Joseph (his descendants) was to have a BOW and, with God's help, his branches were to run over the wall. Jacob (Joseph's dad) was told by God (Genesis 28 v 14) that his seed was to spread forth to the West; East; North and South, in that order, which of course Joseph did, proving that God's Word is eternally TRUE.

The horseman had a crown given to him which is the crown of Israel, eventually to be worn by the TRUE King of Israel - Christ. The British Throne is the Throne of David (The Lia Fail / Stone of Destiny).

Joseph went (his tribe) West to America and then East to India/Australasia and then North to Canada and finally, South to Africa in exactly the same order specified in God's Prophecy in Genesis 28 v 14, conquering and to conquer - "The British Empire". The British thought they were clever but the Glory is God's alone because He defeated their enemies to fulfill His Prophecies and His Master Plan.

The tribe of Joseph is, in fact, divided into two:- Ephraim and Manasseh. Joseph had two sons called Ephraim and Manasseh who, today, are the English and Americans respectively. Abraham, Joseph's great grandad, was told by God that, "in Isaac shall your seed be called" (Genesis 21 v 12). Isaac's sons - Saac's sons - Saxons. The British/English and the Americans are Anglo-Saxons. God's Word is ever TRUE.

Joseph/Ephraim (the English) went forth conquering during their witnessing period, when they took the Bible around the world for God, fulfilling the days of their prophecy (God's Prophecies about them).

Joseph/Manasseh (the U.S.A.) split off from their brothers the English and Ephraim lost a colony (Isaiah 49 v 20) and then went East; North and South.

Joseph/Manasseh (the U.S.A.) also spread forth taking the Bible around the world and became a great people (Genesis 49 v 19) whilst Joseph/Ephraim (the English) became a multitude/Commonwealth of Nations and God made their name GREAT (Genesis 12 v 2) - Great Britain.

During the 1260 years of their witnessing and fulfilling of God's Prophecies, they were assisted by and defended by God, as stated, by God, in Genesis 49 v 23 & Revelation 11 v 3-6.

Unfortunately, although protected by God whilst taking His Word (the Bible) around the world, they did not allow God to water the seed/truth (Rev. 11 v 6) because they did not "live by" (believe - by live) the Bible and Covenants that they made with God, two of them, the Old Covenant/Testament and the New Covenant/Testament. The terms and penalty (punishment) clauses are contained in those Books.

I said, unfortunately, for them, because they are going to be punished by God for breaking the Covenant/contract (Rev. 11 v 7) and choosing to live by and inflict their own selfish, greedy and evil political systems on the rest of the world, instead of converting the whole world to living by God's Own PERFECT System. IF they had kept the terms of the Covenant/contract then the whole world would have, by now, become God's Kingdom on Earth:- One King - God; One Law; One people; One Kingdom at peace - world without end. The "Unique Horn - Unicorn."

However, they broke the terms of the Covenant and consequently the seed (truth) did not grow and the gentile world rejected God's Word (the Bible) because they wrongly assumed that what the Two Witnesses were doing was what it said in God's Book.

The gentiles rightly judged the "tree" by the fruit it bears and were revolted by the actions; greed and injustice of the political systems of the Two Witnesses and therefore these peoples; multitudes; nations and tongues/languages (waters - Rev. 17 v 15) were turned to blood (red - communism). Away from God to Satan. They were DRIVEN to communism by the actions of the Two Witnesses because the two witnesses have done to them whatever they liked, as often as they willed (wanted) - Rev. 11 v 6.

Now we come to the second of the four horsemen "And there went out another horse that was RED: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another (the red and white horsemen): and there was given unto him a great sword."

Karl Marx, the human and "visible" author of communism, working for his master Satan, claimed that he had been given a sword by Satan and he would drag God down from heaven and defeat Him with it. Rev. 6 v 4 - the second horseman on a red horse was given a great sword. RED is Satan's colour (Rev. 12 v 3 & 9).

In Rev. 11 v 7 we are told that in the same day (year) when the Two Witnesses have finished their testimony, which was to be the same year that Jerusalem was to be liberated from its "treading down by the gentiles" (Rev. 11 v 2-3), the beast would rise out of the "bottomless pit" (Satan's place) and make war against the Two Witnesses, and shall overcome them, and KILL them. Note well - KILL them.

The word gentile means "foreigner", non-Israelite - non-British people. Hence the British expression, nomatter where they might be, irrespective of whoever's country they might be in, "I am not a foreigner (gentile), I am British (Israelite)." They say it automatically to native people in foreign countries. That is illogical unless you refer it back to the words gentile and Israelite. They say it automatically as though God were speaking through them, which, of course, in this instance He is. Through them and to them at one and the same time, telling them that they are His chosen people Israel.

The British have always classed themselves as a "nation apart" from others and as being special but God chose them to be His SERVANT Nation NOT a master race.

The year that Jerusalem was liberated by British/Israel soldiers from Turkish/gentile domination was 1917. This same year (day in prophetic coded language) 1917 saw the RED communist revolution in Russia and the beast (system) that rose out of the "bottomless pit" (Satanically inspired and controlled) make war against the Two Witnesses for 70 years, all over the planet and will, soon, also, exactly as prophesied, overcome and KILL the Two Witnesses - the U.K. and U.S.A.

Jeremiah the Prophet was told that God would bring again the captivity (slavery) of His people Israel and Judah to punish them for walking contrary to Him, His Will and His Ways and Covenants (Jeremiah 30 v 3; restating Deuteronomy 28:68). That Prophecy is nearing completion at this moment. So, for those of you who think that the Bible is an out-of-date Book, now you can see that the Bible is more up-to-date than tomorrow's newspaper, and next week's too.

The third horseman of the Apocalypse rode a black horse. "And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances (weighing-scales) in his hand." He was told the weights and measures and told not to hurt the oil (Olive) and the wine (Vine) - Israel and Judah - the people of the 12 tribes.

This horseman represents unfair (black) trading and "ripping people off", driving entire nations into poverty for monetary gain, by the rich rulers of the world. These people are not kings and presidents. Kings and presidents do not rule the world any more than prime-ministers and politicians do. This world is run by a small group of EXTREMELY rich jews who are known as "The Hidden Hand". They say they are Jews and are NOT. They are the "synagogue of Satan" (Rev. 3 v 9).

"The Hidden Hand" is the very same organisation that was running the world for Satan 2000 years ago and was behind the "Sanhedrin" and engineered the crucifixion. They decided to crucify the "King of Israel" rather than give-up their immense wealth and power.

These people were condemned by Christ when the FIG tree was cursed in Matt. 21 v 19. The FIG tree is the symbol of Judaism.

These same people had already been previously condemned as traitors by God through Jeremiah in the third chapter of Jeremiah - note well verses 9-11 - "Treacherous Judah".

Christ acknowledged that Satan was running the world through these people and their political systems, calling Satan "the prince of this world" in John 14 v 30. They were referred to as being "the sons of Satan" by Christ in John 8 v 37-47, and condemned in Matt. 23 as being hypocrites for their evil legal and political systems - "Woe to you Scribes (lawyers) and Pharisees (politicians), HYPOCRITES."

The third horseman was told not to hurt the oil and the wine - the 12 tribes of Israel - but they have been hurt. "The Hidden Hand" have infiltrated the Western Israel Nations and taken control of them and used them and abused them, to "rip-off" the rest of the world and make entire nations POOR, driving them to communism and hatred for Joseph and the Jews.

The Olive from which the "oil" comes was Jacob/Israel's emblem (Romans 11 v 24-25) which he gave, along with his name Israel, to Joseph's two sons - Ephraim and Manasseh [not to Judah - the Jews] (Genesis 48 v 16). We are told by God through Isaiah in 43 v 12, that you (Israel - Ephraim and Manasseh not Judah) are "My Witnesses."

If we look at history and national emblems yet again, we find more clues.

Joseph and the white horseman were both to have a BOW. The bowmen of England are the most famous in the history of the world and with God's help were not defeated (Genesis 49 v 24). Note well also where "the Shepherd" will come from - Joseph NOT Judah. NOT from the Jews.

Now look at the American Eagle and you will see that in its left claws it holds arrows, 13 of them. Britannia, in the full picture, sits under an OLIVE tree and the American Eagle has in its right claws an OLIVE branch, with 13 olives and 13 leaves on it. Israel, in Scripture, is referred to (metaphorically) as God's Wife and Britannia is a WOMAN not a man. Manasseh, the 1/2 tribe of Joseph, was known as the 13th. tribe of Israel. Look at American Symbols and you will see 13 over and over again. There are 13 stripes on their flag.

I could go into far more and minute detail on this subject but I will refrain because those who do not want to see will refuse nomatter how much proof I give them and those who do want to see will already be convinced of this TRUTH.

Revelation 11 v 3-4 tells us that God will give power to His Two Witnesses during the time of their testimony. "The Two Witnesses are the two olive trees and the two candlesticks."

Israel was to be God's Witness (Isaiah 43 v 2) and the OLIVE TREE was/is Israel's emblem (Romans 11 v 24-25) and Jacob/Israel gave the OLIVE emblem, with his name ISRAEL (his name was no longer Jacob - Gen. 32 v 28) given to him by the angel who redeemed him (Gen. 48 v 16), to Ephraim and Manasseh.

So, now we have two olive trees instead of only one - Ephraim and Manasseh and two witnesses and they became two candlesticks (Zechariah 4 v 3) because they, during the days of their witnessing, translated the Bible (the Light) into almost every human language and distributed it all over the world, also fulfilling God's Prophecies (Rev. 11 v 3) about them.

The fourth horseman of the Apocalypse rode a pale horse. "And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was DEATH, and HELL(fire) followed with him. And power was given unto them (the four horsemen) over the fourth part (1/4) of the earth, to kill with sword (weapons), and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth." This horseman rode on a pale/sick horse (sickly GREEN in the Greek original text). The fourth horseman represents pollution and nature dying (sickly green) with famines; pestilences and plagues brought about by climatic changes caused by deforestation and pollution.

A quarter of the earth are killed by wars; famines; and with disasters; and with the beasts of the earth (diseases and plagues etc. carried by the beasts of the earth).

Hell-fire followed WITH him (Death), because, due to unjust and unfair trading getting people to grow money crops, instead of food, and causing deforestation and desertification of many regions creates hunger, and hunger causes war, war comes and then the REAPING of mankind with Hell-fire.

In Ezekiel 38 we are told that God will put "hooks into their jaws" (hunger) and bring them against the mountains (govts.) of the 12 tribes of Israel who have insufficient defences because of dis-armament.

Then, returning to the Apocalypse/Revelation chapter 6 again, in verse 12 onwards we are told that there was a great "earth-quake" (upheaval of the downtrodden masses) and the SUN (British Throne of David) became black (loses all of its power), and the MOON (British Commonwealth) became as blood and the STARS of heaven (U.S.A.) fell unto the EARTH (downtrodden people), even as a FIG tree (the Jews) casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind (in Ezekiel 13 v 11 we are told that "with a stormy wind will I rend/break down the wall of untempered mortar").

Well Punisher, after two very long posts from you I still fail to see how you have implicated Freemasonry in any way. And to be quite honest I am quickly losing interest as I have not a seen a single reference to Freemasonry let alone anything in support of your earlier assertion.
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ThePunisher errr... saxon is not from isaac.

Its where we have the word for Axe from. It means blade and they had lots of them.


Also you jump from white horse in the bible quote to a unicorn in the coat of arms.

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Puisher, when I read your posts, I always picture John Hagee talking.

The word gentile means "foreigner", non-Israelite - non-British people. Hence the British expression, nomatter where they might be, irrespective of whoever's country they might be in, "I am not a foreigner (gentile), I am British (Israelite)." They say it automatically to native people in foreign countries. That is illogical unless you refer it back to the words gentile and Israelite. They say it automatically as though God were speaking through them, which, of course, in this instance He is. Through them and to them at one and the same time, telling them that they are His chosen people Israel.

Where do you get this crap from?
Gentile:
1. One who is not of the Jewish faith or is of a non-Jewish nation.
2. A Christian.
3. Archaic. A pagan or heathen.
4. Mormon Church. A non-Mormon.

adj.
1. often Gentile Of or relating to a Gentile.
2. Of or relating to a gens, tribe, or people.
3. Grammar. Expressing national or local origins.
Foriegner:
1. One who is from a foreign country or place.
2. One who is from outside a particular group or community; an outsider.
The fig tree � with its distinctive leaves, used as clothes by Adam and Eve - is a ubiquitous part of the Israeli landscape. In biblical times the fig was eaten fresh or as a seasoning, in addition to being used to make honey and alcohol.


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If anyone wants to read it in depth, why anyone would is totally beyond me , but

Before YOU can understand the TRUTH of the Bible Prophecies, which take up 2/3 of it, or anything similarly complex, you have to decide to be TOTALLY objective and analytical about the FACTS presented and not distracted by irrelevant "clap-trap" from organised religions and "holier than thou" theories.

Is the first line of the piece.

Oh , I am bored now too much waffle. I think the holier than thou did it?