TA-ATTACKS: Blast Rocks Australian Embassy in Jakarta

those damn criminals! I hope that Indonesian police and Australian Federal Police get them!

thanks,
drfunk

Originally posted by drfunk
those damn criminals! I hope that Indonesian police and Australian Federal Police get them!

thanks,
drfunk

I'm with you, but as we've seen with the Bali Bomb the Indonesians can sometimes have a strange sense of justice.

Be prepared for another "warning" from the US Government. This attack happened at the Australian embassy one month before their Presidential election (Oct. 9th). I think it is safe to say we can expect an attack here or overseas against US interests prior to our election. (I know this has been said before, but it is getting closer and this bombing just reinforces the possibilities).

Looks as if the violent persuasion tactic just before elections have become the M.O. for terrorists.

Originally posted by dcgolf
This attack happened at the Australian embassy one month before their Presidential election (Oct. 9th).

Just to clarify, it is a Federal Election, we have a Prime Minister, not presidential elections and a president

Who remembers a thread i started about me having a dream about a terorists attack on Australia.........*gets scared*

Originally posted by Varmac
Islam is not the cause. If Islam was not used by Osama and his cronies then the US government would have no excuse to take over Iraq and get the oil. The US people should be thankful that Islam has been able to be used to obtain more resources.

Islam IS the cause of most terrorism in the entire world. Iraq has almost nothing to do with our current situation. Hussein was an opponent of the Islamic movement, remember? He ran a dictatorship that had little to no Islamic influence. He oppressed many groups of Muslims and had no intention of accepting ANY cleric of ANY denomination as an authority above him. Did Hussein himself take on a religious title?... No, he refered to himself as the President of Iraq. If anything... our military campaign in Iraq has improved the situation for local Muslims... sheesh.

Also, the war in Iraq STARTED well over ten years ago with Iraq showing that they were a REAL threat to their neighbors (remember Kuwait?). Links to terrorists were only a small part of the reasoning for this latest military action anyway. The primary excuse was... weapons of mass destruction, combined with their past displays of aggression. Osama had nothing to do with us going into Iraq. Bush was going to do this when he got elected, whether 9/11 ever happened or not.

Originally posted by Kano

Originally posted by dcgolf
This attack happened at the Australian embassy one month before their Presidential election (Oct. 9th).

Just to clarify, it is a Federal Election, we have a Prime Minister, not presidential elections and a president

Sorry about that. I should know better.

Here�s an extract of what Kyodo have to say about this story:

At least 9 killed in blast at Australia Embassy in Jakarta

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"National Police chief Da'i Bachtiar said that nine people died.

A doctor at MMC Hospital in Jakarta, where most of the victims of the blast were rushed to, said three of the fatalities were security officers at the embassy. Two others were people who were passing in front of the embassy.

In Adelaide, Australian Foreign Minister Alexander Downer said that the death toll likely stands at 11."

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"The blast, which occurred at around 10:30 a.m., left a 1-meter-deep crater covering about 12 square meters some 4 meters from the embassy gate, Da'i said."

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"At least six hospitals in Jakarta are treating the injured.

Private television station Metro TV reported a Chinese national, who was seriously injured, was undergoing an operation at Mintohardjo Navy Hospital.

Kyodo News reporters on the scene in a busy business district area saw dismembered bodies lying on the road in front of the embassy. Glass windows in at least 14 buildings were shattered and five cars were damaged on the road in front of the embassy."

A group called "Jemaah Islamiah" claims responsibility for this action.
They say there will be more like this if Australia don�t bring their soldiers home of Iraq.

An Australian mother was killed outside and her 5 year old daughter is in critical condition. BASTARDS !!

any links madscientist??

i hope this isnt true.

Has anyone been follow the 11 and twin towers theory throughout the 9/11 attacks and other terrorist attacks. This attack occurred two days before the 9/11 attacks. Two represented by II in Roman Numerals.

Teknik, what are the views of Indonesians towards the Howard Government?

I've been reading up a little on Howards'support for independence of East Timor and Australia's troop deployment in that region.

www.hrw.org... :
In a private letter sent to Habibie in December, Prime Minister John Howard outlined a proposal for an eventual vote on self-determination in East Timor following an extended period of autonomy. Australia had been the only Western country to recognize Indonesian sovereignty over the territory, a stance it adopted in 1978. The Howard letter, seen by Indonesia as a major policy shift (although it apparently was not intended as such by some in the Howard government), was a crucial factor in Habibie's January 27 announcement that Indonesia would consider independence for the territory.

From that point on, the East Timor question seemed to drive Australia's policy toward Indonesia, although the Australian government was also eager to see free and fair elections in Indonesia in June and provided significant financial and logistical support for them.

After the May 5 agreement between Indonesia and Portugal resulted in the establishment of the United Nations Assistance Mission in East Timor (UNAMET), Australians came to constitute UNAMET's largest component. Amid continuing violence leading up to the vote, Australia lobbied for increased numbers of international civilian police and military advisors.

Darwin became an international staging ground for relief efforts and military deployments after August 30. Australia organized and commanded the International Force for East Timor (Interfet) that entered East Timor on September 20; the deployment of four thousand five hundred soldiers (out of a total of seven thousand) was Australia's greatest troop mobilization since the Vietnam War.

Indonesian anger over the referendum results and the entry of Australian troops into East Timor sent Indonesia-Australian relations to their lowest point ever, and the Australian embassy in Jakarta and consulates elsewhere became the target of Indonesian nationalist protests.

Following an exchange of fire in East Timor that killed an Indonesian policeman, Indonesia suspended a 1995 security treaty that had committed the two countries to "mutual consultation" on "matters affecting their common security," and joint navy patrols in the oil-rich Timor Sea. Australia's carefully-cultivated relationship with the Indonesian armed forces, that had led to extensive training programs and joint exercises, also appeared to be destroyed.

Are the relations between Indonesians and Australians good?
Do they want Howard out of office?

Originally posted by ausconspiracies2
any links madscientist??

i hope this isnt true.

I just heard it on the news, but the mother was Indonesian ( the original TV report said she was Australian ), I do believe the little girl was an Australian citizen. You've probably already seen it on the news by now.

I've heard that these Muslim Fanatics want a Muslim state throughout the whole of Indonesia .
These people are just total Barbarians and need putting out with the trash!

Seems the bomb was made up of 200kg of potassium chlorite with a TNT iniator. Pretty big bomb.

i have been at work all day and have been hearing the following on the radio.

1) the little girl is australian (he father is a police officer from sydney)

2) John howard is saying we should expect more attacks and that flights into indonesia are being more strictly searched (bags passengers etc)

3)Indon officials say there was warning, in the form of a text message to police about 1/2 an hour before the bomb/s went off

4) up to three suicide bombers couldve been involved

5) the bomb/s were larger than the bali bombs (either individually or as a group still unshure)

Originally posted by ausconspiracies2
3)Indon officials say there was warning, in the form of a text message to police about 1/2 an hour before the bomb/s went off

Taipei Times: Indonesian police were warned about attack on embassy

"The Australian foreign minister said authorities were informed that the bomb would go off if a militant was not released.

Indonesian police received threats of an attack against a Western embassy in Jakarta 45 minutes before the deadly car bombing of Australia's mission, Prime Minister John Howard said yesterday.

Howard said police received a message at 9:30am demanding the release of Abu Bakar Bashir, an elderly Islamic cleric accused of guiding the Al-Qaeda-linked Jemaah Islamiyah group, who is awaiting trial in Jakarta

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The car bombing of Australia's embassy occurred about 10:15am, killing nine Indonesians and wounding more than 180 people, including a five-year-old Australian girl entering the embassy to get her first passport, Howard said.

The message was not passed on to Australian Federal Police working with the Indonesians until nearly 6:00pm, Howard said.

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Howard declined to blame Indonesian authorities for the delay in passing on the threat.

"Let's understand, you get something at 9:30am and a bomb goes off 45 minutes later, it's not necessarily reasonable to condemn the Indonesian police for that," he said."

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"The intelligence agencies have warned that there is the possibility of another attack of this kind in Jakarta," Howard told reporters in Canberra."

Special bomb proofing of the Australian Embassy has been credited with saving many lives.