Terrorism Cannot Be Stopped With War

Terrorism Cannot Be Stopped With War?
Then how ?


[edit on 9-9-2004 by AtheiX]

Terrorism can be stopped everyone just has to convert to Islam and everything thing would be OK. No more infidels

what a great world that would be

If I read all the recent posts to this topic currectly no posters have posted viable solutions to this epidemic. I use the word epidemic as a word to describe a diease that has spread throughout the globe.
It is well known that Muslims are spreding this diease but what is not targeted is the origin of the diease itself. Inorder for this plague to be erridicated you most seek out the source that gives it birth.
It is my belief we must start with all the holy men of this faith and discover who is really preaching death and destruction upon all non Arabs. Once this is accomplish we eliminate them one at a time. When others take over the power vacum we eliminate them also.
This will be a slow process but I believe the Muslims will get the message.

Originally posted by ShadowXIX
Terrorism can be stopped everyone just has to convert to Islam and everything thing would be OK. No more infidels

what a great world that would be

Are you kidding? The second most popular sport of the Islamic radicals, next to killing infidels, is killing each other.

Originally posted by keholmes

Originally posted by koji_K
It's good to see some sense here. Terror is a crime���.. By police action, investigation, intelligence gathering, and the odd military strike where nessecary. "War" on terrorists is impossible, for reasons already stated in this thread����

Originally posted by cstyle226
War on Drugs.....more drugs.

ok so we fight it using the methods that these people making sense have already deemed a failure�.

Would that be intelligence gathering that wouldn�t do any good because you won�t believe it anyway?

The odd military strike. You say they make sense that killing a few people here and there will only create more terrorists and then say lets just occasionally when the mood strikes us�..bomb somebody.

Look at history when we have been strong on terrorism�.terrorism has receded�.when we have been weak on terrorism it has flourished. Carter, Clinton. In fact Osama himself used Clintons tail between legs and leave Somalia for recruiting and used it as justification for why we should be attacked.

you've misunderstood me. when i say "intelligence" i mean real intelligence, gained from real sources. of, say, MI5 or Mossad quality. not neo-con fabrications, like the stuff we had on Iraq, given to the President despite the CIA's protests that the information was dubious.

when i say "the odd strike" i mean where absolutely nessecary. i am not against the use of america's military might. however, it shouldnt be used to invade whole countries in the name of fighting terror. how many people were directly responsible for 9/11? the figure cant be more than a few hundred, and yet we've already killed 1000's in Iraq alone. this type of ham-fisted retaliation will only make the problem worse.

America has never been "strong on terror" because America has never truly known terror at home before 9/11. We were generally in the business of funding terror groups, not fighting them. Terror is a sustained campaign. Time remains to tell how succesful we have been at combatting it so far.

-koji K.

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott

Originally posted by ShadowXIX
Terrorism can be stopped everyone just has to convert to Islam and everything thing would be OK. No more infidels

what a great world that would be

Are you kidding? The second most popular sport of the Islamic radicals, next to killing infidels, is killing each other.

Yeah your probably right, the might see the new converts as not true Muslim and get even more angry. If not im sure they would find some other reason or just make one up.

[edit on 9-9-2004 by ShadowXIX]

Yes I agree.. Terrorism cannot be stopped with War.

Think about it.. It's like saying "Lets have Sex for Abstenance"

[edit on 9-9-2004 by W411Eddie]

Originally posted by W411Eddie
Yes I agree.. Terrorism cannot be stopped with War.

Think about it.. It's like saying "Lets have Sex for Abstenance"

[edit on 9-9-2004 by W411Eddie]

Well War is like a Condom then it wont stop people from having sex but it prevents some of the bad side effects.

If you dont strike back and give into terrorist demands they will just do more acts of terror to get what they want. Steps should be taken to stop the creation of new terrorist but the ones all ready out there need to be wiped out.

Originally posted by W411Eddie
"Lets have Sex for Abstenance"

This is the most ludicrous analogy I have ever heard and it only appeals to the least critical thinkers among us.

How about gaining Independence from Mideast Oil and then withdrawing our troops from their land, then letting them duke it out with each other, instead of attacking us?

How about funding them so they stop creating schools where they teach hate?

How about giving them a reason to live so they don't see it as a "nothing to lose" situation?

You guys are barbarians: Kill, kill, kill, and maybe they will stop killing?

Yea If you kill us lets give you money thats a great example every poor country in the world will be attacking the United States for their own share of the pie.

You know how much money the US pours into those countries by buying their oil? There own leadership screws them and keeps the money

May be Russia should give Chechen people money for killing their kids thats just stupid. People that do such things should be wiped out not funded.

Originally posted by cstyle226
You guys are barbarians: Kill, kill, kill, and maybe they will stop killing?

Dead men don't kill.

Originally posted by cstyle226
How about gaining Independence from Mideast Oil and then withdrawing our troops from their land, then letting them duke it out with each other, instead of attacking us?

How about funding them so they stop creating schools where they teach hate?

How about giving them a reason to live so they don't see it as a "nothing to lose" situation?

You guys are barbarians: Kill, kill, kill, and maybe they will stop killing?

How about some real ideas beyond pipe dreams. How do you propose the first, the second is just plain stupid, the third maybe emotionally pleasing to say but how do you plan to implement that; weekly hugs? Sorry for living in the real world.

Originally posted by koji_K
you've misunderstood me. when i say "intelligence" ��

As I said you wouldn�t believe it�.you listed MI5�just who do you think the British use for intelligence�how bout the Russians�..

Originally posted by koji_K
when i say "the odd strike" i mean where absolutely nessecary. i am not against the use of america's military might���

And so you�ve ruled out to protect Americans �..So I�m left to wonder just what absolutely necessary rules in�.attacks to your immediate family?

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Dead men don't kill.

The family and friends they leave behind do.

[edit on 9-9-2004 by AceOfBase]

hehe
"Dead men don't kill"...is a dumb hillbilly statement.

The response of, "The family and friends they leave behind do" makes sense.

Unfortunately, the hillbillies are probably thinking, "we'll just have to kill them too" which is what leads to the endless cycle of violence we see in Israel and Palestine.

[edit on 9-9-2004 by cstyle226]

Originally posted by keholmes

Originally posted by koji_K
you've misunderstood me. when i say "intelligence" ��

As I said you wouldn�t believe it�.you listed MI5�just who do you think the British use for intelligence�how bout the Russians�..

Originally posted by koji_K
when i say "the odd strike" i mean where absolutely nessecary. i am not against the use of america's military might���

And so you�ve ruled out to protect Americans �..So I�m left to wonder just what absolutely necessary rules in�.attacks to your immediate family?

not sure what you mean by the first part. MI5 has an excellent track record as regards the IRA. MI6, on the other hand...

As for the second, who said anything about protecting americans? i have no idea what you are talking about. was it an attempt to put words in my mouth?

-koji K.

Dad killed a whole bunch of Americans and we got new schools and more money for our country. That will stop new terrorist from being created

The goverments that run these countries keep all the money they get what makes you think If we gave them more money to build schools that they wouldnt just keep that too.So pouring money into these goverments will just make them more powerful and oppressive to their own people.

Listen for us to stop terrorist we have to make people understand that these are horrible acts and that they accomplish nothing. If they benifit from such actions it will never stop.

The people that would kill kids in a school to help their cause are to far gone and need to be wiped out. The new generation need to realize the real cause of their problems and its not America its their own oppressive goverments. But its so much easier for those same goverments to shift blame from themselves to the "Great Satan"

Originally posted by cstyle226
hehe
"Dead men don't kill"...is a dumb hillbilly statement.

The response of, "The family and friends they leave behind do" makes sense.

Unfortunately, the hillbillies are probably thinking, "we'll just have to kill them too" which is what leads to the endless cycle of violence we see in Israel and Palestine.

[edit on 9-9-2004 by cstyle226]

[edit on 9/9/2004 by s13guy]

Originally posted by koji_K
not sure what you mean by the first part. MI5 has an excellent track record as regards the IRA. MI6, on the other hand...

my point was that MI5 and MI6 are british intelligence�..but forget that�I�ll quit beating round the bush; russian intelligence warned America that iraq was planning terrorist activities. Check the link in the signature below.

Originally posted by koji_K
As for the second, who said anything about protecting americans? i have no idea what you are talking about. was it an attempt to put words in my mouth?

Your implication is that Iraq has done nothing to be targeted �..As they were planning action in America�then I�m assuming that doesn�t meet you �absolutely necessary� policy so I�m wondering what would be absolutely necessary?

just as an aside why are the postings all strecthed out now...did somebody dork something up?