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Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
reply to post by Destiny777
There are no "rounds" to this. There is only the free exchange of information. You stated that the Sumerian language was hieroglyphic. This is wrong, the Sumerian language is cuneiform. Cuneiform is not the same as Hieroglyphic. Just as Greek is not the same as Bashkir.
The Sumerian language itself is even a language isolate, meaning it has no pre-history, or development. It simply is. I'm sorry, but Hieroglyphics are not the same as what the Sumerians used.
I've read your wiki link prior to your use of it. No where does it state Egyptian hieroglyphs are the same as Mesopotamian cuneiform. What were you trying to prove through the link? Anything?
As for myself and others "saying anything" to prove you wrong, that's not what we're doing at all. What you are doing is called cherry-picking. It is a logical fallacy. When the reality of your calculations are exposed, they fail to prove mathematically correct. This does not make it a conspiracy to cover up some "great truth," it just means: You're wrong. Please double-check your numbers.
But, by all means, go ahead and "start round two," I'm still waiting for an actual response to the information I provided about the 72 goddesses, and what cultural link the Mesopotamian peoples had with the Mesoamerican peoples, and what link both of those cultures had with the Renaissance.
Pyramids and spirals is not a cultural link, by the way. Because, as I pointed out, the spiral exists in every culture across the planet.
Please, show me the mathematical workings of the Navajo, who also utilized spirals in their artwork.
How about the Aborigine cultures from the Australian Outback, who's use of the spiral is second to no other culture on the planet.
As for pyramids, show me Egypt's mathematical correlation to this entire process, since no pyramid is as timeless as an Egyptian pyramid.
How about pre-colonial Spain? Germany? The Vikings, the Celts? How about the Greeks, who practically wrote the book on mathematics.
I'll be waiting.
~ Wandering Scribe
Originally posted by Destiny777
reply to post by RSF77
Well, that concludes this session. 1+1= MATHEMATICS, any way that you try to debate this, you are already incorrect.
You're now attempting to say that dividing, multiplying, adding, or subtracting isn't math. WHEW...This is a first...even for me. That's the biggest stretch for an argument that I HAVE EVER HEARD.
Bye...
Much LOVE by the way...17.7777777(infinity)edit on 23-12-2011 by Destiny777 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by RSF77
Originally posted by Destiny777
reply to post by RSF77
Well, that concludes this session. 1+1= MATHEMATICS, any way that you try to debate this, you are already incorrect.
You're now attempting to say that dividing, multiplying, adding, or subtracting isn't math. WHEW...This is a first...even for me. That's the biggest stretch for an argument that I HAVE EVER HEARD.
Bye...
Much LOVE by the way...17.7777777(infinity)edit on 23-12-2011 by Destiny777 because: (no reason given)
What?
Your not making much sense.
Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
reply to post by Destiny777
You never answered my question on how the 72 goddesses of Buddhism can be represented as "7+1=8" when in reality, 72 is composed of the digits "7," and "2," which equal "9," not "8."
I also showed you were wrong about Cuneiform and Hieroglyphics. You then proceeded to not explain how they were the same thing. All you did was link to a Wikipedia article you've probably never read, because it supported my assertions, and not your own.
I have, as of yet, seen no explanation of how the Greeks (fathers of both arithmetic and philosophy), the Muslims (who advanced number theory, geometry, and calculus), the Hindus (who invented the concept of 0), the Navajo, Aborigine, Celtic, and Norse (who profusely use spirals to represent their cultural beliefs) all factor into your number theory.
In fact, you haven't answered a single one of my inquiries. And now other ATS members are asking you to answer them too. It may be a good idea for you to reply to them, since you seem to believe your number code really is The Code.
Just a suggestion.
~ Wandering Scribe
Sumerians were the first (supposedly) to develop WRITTEN LANGUAGE. The language is in Hieroglyphs.
You're trying to bring up MANY issues now that are a complete sideline to the thread itself. We're not talking about the Greeks or Mesopotamian civilization.
So, if you want to continue this, stay on topic and address the TRUE issues.
He speaks in terms of Buddhism regarding 72 Goddesses, which brought me to another calculation regarding infinity...
7+1=8 8 is in the shape of infinity.
Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
Okay, I will ask you a more "on-topic" question.
Why exactly do you feel that taking a number from one civilization's calendar and dividing it by the planetary cycle of a supposed other civilization would mean something? I just don't seem to understand the reasoning behind it..
Originally posted by OzTiger
I hope I am not throwing a spanner into the works here but the Sumerian 3,600 year cycle is surely the myth figure of one Zecharia Sitchin isn't it?
Sitchins translations have been proven wrong.
Sorry again.
Originally posted by Destiny777
That question was already answered as well.
I went for the earliest civilizations. And again, all of them built pyramids, and left us clues with spirals regarding the building blocks of life as the fibonacci sequence, explains. Now, question for you...have YOU STUDIED THE FIBONACCI SEQUENCE?
The Fibioncci sequence TELLS US that all life is derived from spirals. ALL LIFE. It also brings us closer to the "singularity." The cycles of these particular civilizations are in conjunction with the stars, AND IN FACT, the pyramids were also aligned with star systems. So, if you take the numbers, which are all cycles that are cosmically aligned, you can find very important patterns.
That's pretty much the gist of it. LIFE=a code that can be calculated...
LOVE YA...17.77777777(infinity)
Originally posted by mOjOm
Ok, let's take it again from the top shall we?? Cause I think some things need to be made clear.
These are your starting values:
Fibonacci Code: 64 cubes to create spiral
Mayan Cycle: 26,000 years
Sumerian Cycle: 3,600 years
So, first of all, where are you getting 64 cubes creating a spiral from???
How is that a Fibonacci code???
What is the relationship you are talking about between "64 cubes" and the "Fibonacci Number Sequence"???
(So you know, I'm very, very familiar with the Fib sequencing of numbers and it's patterns and relationships with phi so be very clear about your answer here please.)
Next, are your calculations:
64,000/3600= 17.7777777(infinity)
Then take the 26,000 Year Mayan Cycle and Divide it by the 3600 year Sumerian cycle = 7.2222222(Infinity)
Why did you go from 64 to 64,000???
Why are you dividing the Sumerian cycle into the Mayan Cycle and also into the 64,000??? What is their relationship to each other??? (ie. The Mayan Precession of the Equinoxes and the Sumerian Cycle of 3600 years and their relationship to whatever the 64000 number represents)
Please understand, I don't have a problem with your math as it's very simple math, but what I don't get and what you haven't yet explained, as far as I can tell, is where you're getting your additional meanings for these numbers.
Can you explain the meanings you attribute to these numbers???
How do they equate to "Unconditional Love" and so on???
Originally posted by Confusion42
Originally posted by mOjOm
Ok, let's take it again from the top shall we?? Cause I think some things need to be made clear.
These are your starting values:
Fibonacci Code: 64 cubes to create spiral
Mayan Cycle: 26,000 years
Sumerian Cycle: 3,600 years
So, first of all, where are you getting 64 cubes creating a spiral from???
How is that a Fibonacci code???
What is the relationship you are talking about between "64 cubes" and the "Fibonacci Number Sequence"???
(So you know, I'm very, very familiar with the Fib sequencing of numbers and it's patterns and relationships with phi so be very clear about your answer here please.)
Next, are your calculations:
64,000/3600= 17.7777777(infinity)
Then take the 26,000 Year Mayan Cycle and Divide it by the 3600 year Sumerian cycle = 7.2222222(Infinity)
Why did you go from 64 to 64,000???
Why are you dividing the Sumerian cycle into the Mayan Cycle and also into the 64,000??? What is their relationship to each other??? (ie. The Mayan Precession of the Equinoxes and the Sumerian Cycle of 3600 years and their relationship to whatever the 64000 number represents)
Please understand, I don't have a problem with your math as it's very simple math, but what I don't get and what you haven't yet explained, as far as I can tell, is where you're getting your additional meanings for these numbers.
Can you explain the meanings you attribute to these numbers???
How do they equate to "Unconditional Love" and so on???
I agree with you.
To the OP - Your Math is incorrect.
You fail to answer simple questions.
When a poster informed the OP that the Sumerians had Cuneiform, and that Hieroglyphics came from the Egyptians, you provided a link to a the wiki on Sumeria. The wiki on Sumeria does NOT mention Hieroglyphics, the word does not even appear in the entry.
It appears the OP might be delusional; I say this because of your insulting nature towards the people that have shown your code to be a bunch of hogwash.