"I'm disillusioned by people who are disillusioned by Obama"

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by 2manyquestions
Maybe I'm overreacting to a silly picture with a quote from someone who's political opinions are insignificant, but that's the way I feel, especially when I see people agreeing with him.

I'm curious. What exactly did he say that you disagree with? And what is your alternate view?

I mean, I disagree that we should support whomever we elect, no matter what they do... That's common sense to me. But what else did he say that's so objectionable?

I disagree with him on the insinuation that we should continue to "sell" and support a political figure if we voted for that figure, despite the fact that he or she did not deliver on many of their promises, made bad economic decisions and entangled him/herself in scandals. It doesn't matter whether Clooney is talking about Democrats or Republicans, a person should see the error of their ways and make a change instead of sticking up for their choice simply because these are the people they voted for.

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To do that a democrat would have to have guys in the first place, there for making them not a democrat

Originally posted by FissionSurplus
I wrote that it sounds more like the same old brainwashing, and the dominance of the two-party system is exactly why we're in the trouble we are today.

It's really a one-party system divided into two arms that play card tricks for the public while working in the back room to push ahead an agenda that is good for Them and NOT Us.

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Well, it's funny to consider, but Mr. Clooney didn't seem to feel this way when conservatives were abandoning George Bush starting around 2006 and his major moves toward socialist economic policy. How does that work in his views that sticking with Bush when things went bad was a sign of ignorance and simple minded thinking...yet sticking with Obama when his approach is going sideways and turning bad is some kind of obligation or duty?

The level and depth of support some people maintain for a President...ANY President...in the face of domestic disaster from their policies is just mind boggling. Clooney obviously lives in a different world. People in the world I inhabit don't have the luxury to back horrible ideas strictly for ideological reasons.

You know, at first I was disillusioned that this thread was based on a second rate TV actors endorsement, but then I thought about it some, and decided to try my luck.

I called up several third and fourth rate musicians I know, and -- while most of them could give a flip -- the few who did respond one way or another were all firmly against Obama, until I mentioned the Clooney ad.

Now they are all firmly disillusioned with the people who are disillusioned by the guy who was disillusioned by the people who no longer like Obama. It's a nationwide trend in the making. Or something.

Originally posted by 0zzymand0s
You know, at first I was disillusioned that this thread was based on a second rate TV actors endorsement, but then I thought about it some, and decided to try my luck.

I called up several third and fourth rate musicians I know, and -- while most of them could give a flip -- the few who did respond one way or another were all firmly against Obama, until I mentioned the Clooney ad.

Now they are all firmly disillusioned with the people who are disillusioned by the guy who was disillusioned by the people who no longer like Obama. It's a nationwide trend in the making. Or something.

I think you're missing the point of this thread. The point is that the people who were passing this picture around the internet were agreeing with Clooney. Clooney suggests we should support politicians no matter what they do, if that is who we voted for. He calls people who hold politicians accountable fickle, but reality is these people realize Obama is not going to bring the change they were hoping he would. He's criticizing those who want to hold him accountable by voting against him. The quote could have been anybodies and it still would make my point, which is that some people are willing to vote according to the party they belong to instead of according to who is most qualified. Supporting someone simply for the fact that you voted for him or because he belongs to your political party even though he is steering the country in the wrong direction is not the right way to go.

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GAG. What a stinking pile of cluelessness.

He sounds like he doesn't think there's a single valid reason to kick the traitorous Marxist Kenyan well down the road . . . tar and feathers or not.

I disagree:

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Obamacare forces union to drop health insurance for children of more than 30,000 of its members.

They’re doing a remake of Drop Dead Fred

35 reasons why no decent human being should vote to reelect President Obama


In April 2009, antiwar activists who helped elect Obama accused him of using the same “off the books” funding as his predecessor George W. Bush when Obama requested an additional $83.4 billion from Congress for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan – a provision which Obama had voted against when he was a Senator.

In May 2010, it was reported that the Obama administration had selected KBR, a former subsidiary of Halliburton, for a no-bid contract worth as much as $568 million through 2011 for military support services in Iraq, just hours after the Justice Department had said it would pursue a lawsuit accusing the Houston-based company of taking kickbacks from two subcontractors on Iraq-related work.

While running for President, Obama had promised that he would not have any lobbyists working in his administration. However, by February 2010, he had more than 40 lobbyists working in his administration.

In 2011, after Boeing had hired 1,000 new employees to work at its new factory in South Carolina, the Obama administration ordered Boeing to shut down the factory, because the factory was non-union.

Obama fired the CEO of General Motors, and had the government take 60.8% ownership of the company.

During the Chrysler bankruptcy, Obama violated the Fifth Amendment and more than 150 years of bankruptcy law by illegally treating secured creditors worse than unsecured creditors.

The Obama administration pressured Ford Motor Company to stop airing a TV ad that criticized Obama’s bailouts of General Motors and Chrysler.

In May 2009, the Obama administration dismissed charges that had been filed by the Bush administration against members of the New Black Panther Party who had been videotaped intimidating voters and brandishing a police-style baton at a Philadelphia polling station during the November 2008 election. In August 2009, the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights demanded that the Justice Department explain why it dismissed the charges. In July 2010, J. Christian Adams, a former lawyer for the Justice Department, testified before the Commission on Civil Rights that the case was dropped because the Justice Department did not want to protect the civil rights of white people.

In Operation Fast and Furious, the Obama administration ordered gun storeowners to illegally sell thousands of guns to criminals.

In June 2009, Obama fired Inspector General Gerald Walpin, after Walpin accused Sacramento mayor Kevin Johnson, an Obama supporter, of misuse of AmeriCorps funding to pay for school-board political activities. In a letter to Congress, the White House said that Walpin was fired because he was “confused, disoriented, unable to answer questions and exhibited other behavior that led the Board to question his capacity to serve.” A bipartisan group of 145 current and former public officials, attorneys, and legal scholars signed a letter that was sent to the White House, which defended Walpin, said the criticisms of him were not true, and said that his firing was politically motivated. The letter can be read here. Fox News host Glenn Beck gave Walpin an on-air state certified senility test, which Walpin passed with a perfect score, meaning that he was not senile.

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And this is just the tip of the iceberg.

I can't recall a single case in recorded history as we know of it . . . where a culture, a Nation, a Natioinal leadership EVER deliberately worked so hard on so many fronts to utterly destroy their own Nation, culture, values, way of life.

What hideous genocidal treason!