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Originally posted by john_bmth
reply to post by heineken
It does not show that nassim was correct. Did you even read the article? More to the point, involving that fraud nassim is completely off topic as the article has nothing to do with nassim in the slightest. As for the jealousy comment? Jeez, grow up.
Originally posted by Mijamija
I would love to find out why this happens, why would energy "magically" appear and disappear? Where is it comming from or how is it being created?
I have always been told you cannot create something from nothing....so how is this possible? If it is comming from somewhere, then where?
I am aware of that the Universe didn't necessarily have to begin as a singularity, in fact I believe you brought that to my attention not long ago. In any case, it was all "bunched together" at some point. And we are still talking about a period before the most basic particles were even able to form/condense, it seems to me that such a condition would likely result in entanglement. In fact the energy of our Universe never really was something made of separate individual parts, it always will be and always has been a single connected/entangled system, in my opinion.
According to current theory, the universe was not required to begin as a singularity. And, even if it did, this would certainly not indicate that everything in the universe is entangled. Entanglement arises from particle decay under very specific restrictions. Just because everything gets piled together into a tiny volume, that doesn't automatically mean it's all entangled.
If we are thinking of the 'vacuum' as a wave, when we talk about a 'vacuum fluctuation', are we saying that space-time is literally undergoing random fluctuations at the quantum level? If so, this would seem to me like the folding/rippling of space can result in the formation of particles, or virtual particles at least. However, I read about an experiment that was designed to test if the 'fabric of space' was actually 'bumpy' at the quantum level, I think they assumed that if space was bumpy at the quantum level than a photon travelling a long distance would be delayed (by a very small amount) by the 'speed bumps' and would take longer to arrive from distant stars, or something like that. According to their calculations, space must actually be perfectly flat at the quantum level, so that was something that really confused me, I was sure space must be 'bumpy' when viewed on the quantum scale. What are your thoughts on this?
They're coming from the fact that a vacuum is not as static as people still stuck in classical physics like to think. Through quantum mechanics, we understand that everything is a wave - even a vacuum. In the case of a vacuum, the normally flat waveform randomly forms what you might call ripples for very short periods of time. These are interpreted as virtual particles, and, before now, we have only detected them by the force they exert and other indirect effect.
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
I am aware of that the Universe didn't necessarily have to begin as a singularity, in fact I believe you brought that to my attention not long ago.
In any case, it was all "bunched together" at some point.
And we are still talking about a period before the most basic particles were even able to form/condense, it seems to me that such a condition would likely result in entanglement.
Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
If we are thinking of the 'vacuum' as a wave, when we talk about a 'vacuum fluctuation', are we saying that space-time is literally undergoing random fluctuations at the quantum level?
If so, this would seem to me like the folding/rippling of space can result in the formation of particles, or virtual particles at least. However, I read about an experiment that was designed to test if the 'fabric of space' was actually 'bumpy' at the quantum level, I think they assumed that if space was bumpy at the quantum level than a photon travelling a long distance would be delayed (by a very small amount) by the 'speed bumps' and would take longer to arrive from distant stars, or something like that. According to their calculations, space must actually be perfectly flat at the quantum level, so that was something that really confused me, I was sure space must be 'bumpy' when viewed on the quantum scale. What are your thoughts on this?
If you don't mind, could you describe to me what conditions you think lead to entanglement?
Correct, but it does say any particle which becomes entangled with another particle will always remain entangled with the other particle no matter how far you move them apart.
Now consider that everything in the Universe came from a singularity. Everything in the Universe is entangled.
The fact you think that virtual particles might be from another Universe just goes to show you don't understand the quantum mechanics behind it at all.
In any case, it was all "bunched together" at some point. And we are still talking about a period before the most basic particles were even able to form/condense, it seems to me that such a condition would likely result in entanglement.
In fact the energy of our Universe never really was something made of separate individual parts, it always will be and always has been a single connected/entangled system, in my opinion.
If we are thinking of the 'vacuum' as a wave, when we talk about a 'vacuum fluctuation', are we saying that space-time is literally undergoing random fluctuations at the quantum level? If so, this would seem to me like the folding/rippling of space can result in the formation of particles, or virtual particles at least. However, I read about an experiment that was designed to test if the 'fabric of space' was actually 'bumpy' at the quantum level, I think they assumed that if space was bumpy at the quantum level than a photon travelling a long distance would be delayed (by a very small amount) by the 'speed bumps' and would take longer to arrive from distant stars, or something like that. According to their calculations, space must actually be perfectly flat at the quantum level, so that was something that really confused me, I was sure space must be 'bumpy' when viewed on the quantum scale. What are your thoughts on this?
Well I don't really know the exact mechanisms of quantum entanglement,
but I wasn't really saying something led to their entanglement, I am saying that the intial state as a singular entity indicates everything was entangled to begin with, the "energy of our Universe never really was something made of separate individual parts, it always will be and always has been a single connected/entangled system, in my opinion."
EDIT: let me rephrase that: there never really was individual parts that could become entangled with each other.
Originally posted by RMFX1
Originally posted by Watts
Y U NO GIVE PERSONAL INPUT, REFLECTION OR PERSPECTIVE??
We don't need ridiculous 4chan memes here on ATS. Why can't you just ask the question like a grown up?