Chemtrail Attack: Pennsylvania November 19 2011

Hang on, I think I found the culprit:






Its a bald eagle so it must be working for Uncle Sam. [atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/60608f475375.gif[/atsimg]

Here is a home video from a lady that filmed the Chemtrail attack from today

Originally posted by dw31243
Here is a home video from a lady that filmed the Chemtrail attack from today

That is pretty conclusively not normal contrailing. And their only response is no response,
(except for the constant denial and ridicule from their paid internet goons).
Sickening.

reply to post by dw31243


That lady filmed absolutely normal contrails and cirrus clouds.

The woman is not (yet) well versed, apparently, on the science. Let's hope she takes some advice from the comments in the video to go out and get the information she needs to properly understand the technicalities.

Originally posted by ProudBird
reply to post by logicalthinking

 

Either there is a HUGE amount of air traffic today or the geo engineering is in full swing.

No, the normal amount of air traffic, same as every Saturday. And, no....there is (as yet) no on-going "geoengineering" in progress.

care to prove that these are JUST contrail from the local airport .. ALL going in one direction .. or are you just going to sit there and say they are ?? Otherwise.. it's chemtrails.. why .. because as a 8th grader could understand.. contrail dissipates due to the ice melting quickly because it heavy than air.. RIGHT ??

can can't and WILL not linger..

reply to post by Komodo


NO...because this is not what I wrote, nor is it the fact of the matter:

care to prove that these are JUST contrail from the local airport

The air traffic is a combination of ALL the flights that are travelling to many, many different destinations and are merely overflying that particular place on the planet.

NOT from or to the "local airport".

Period. It is quite simple to understand....even a 6th grader can figure it out, once you explain it to her.

reply to post by Komodo

contrail dissipates due to the ice melting quickly because it heavy than air.. RIGHT ??

Wrong.

Tell us --- how would the ice "melt" when it is in conditions of -50°C or colder??

Also.....the ice crystals in the contrails aren't big flakes of snow! They are tiny, almost microscopic. You see them, because there are so many. Being small, they don't "fall", as do larger more massive examples.

A cirrus cloud --- what do you think IT is made of? Why doesn't a cirrus cloud "fall" and "melt"??

Contrails are nothing but a form of cirrus cloud. Period.

A cumulus cloud. Made of unfrozen, tiny droplets of liquid water. How does a cumulus cloud "stay up"?? Why doesn't a cumulus cloud "fall"?

The answers are in that 6th-grade student's school science textbook....................

reply to post by ProudBird


ProudBIrd you are no expert in Geo-Engineering. You call yourself an aviation expert or a so called pilot. People here think you actually do something else for a living like posting dis-information on threads like this.

So, why do you bother posting on this Chemtrail / Geo-Engineering thread?

Originally posted by ProudBird
Contrails are nothing but a form of cirrus cloud. Period.

A cumulus cloud. Made of unfrozen, tiny droplets of liquid water. How does a cumulus cloud "stay up"?? Why doesn't a cumulus cloud "fall"?

The answers are in that 6th-grade student's school science textbook....................

To be fair though, the fundamental reasons why clouds stay up are actually beyond the comprehension of most people. Ratios of surface area to mass and it's implications for mechanical mobility and terminal settling velocity are not things most people can really grok without a bit of work.

Better to simply say that contrails stay in the air for the same reason clouds stay in the air. Everyone knows clouds stay in the air, even if they don't exactly know why.

reply to post by dw31243

ProudBIrd you are no expert in Geo-Engineering.

Oh?? Are you? And, what exactly is an "expert" in Geo-Engineering? It is a field that is still in the early stages of understanding and experimentation.

But, doesn't being very, very knowledgeable about meteorology, aviation and flying add to the sets of skills needed to be able to comprehend the implications of this budding scince and field of study?

You call yourself an aviation expert or a so called pilot.

Because, I am.

People here think you actually do something else for a living like posting dis-information on threads like this.

Feel free to find any instance....just one will suffice.....where I have posted "dis-information".

Because, on the contrary.....the "chemtrail" advocates are in fact the ones who are indeed responsible for a slew of "dis-information".

So, why do you bother posting on this Chemtrail / Geo-Engineering thread?

Because, and I repeat from the above......the "chemtrail" advocates are in fact the ones responsible for a slew of "dis-information".

It is that simple. This nonsense is causing unnecessary waste of resources and time, and there needs to be a call to science and logic and reason.

Or perhaps....some would prefer that people remain deluded and convinced of some fantasy instead? Science gives us the answers to the questions. When something is observed, it is possible to misinterpret what is seen, based on assumptions and guesswork.

That is what happens with these "chemtrail" claims. Science, on the other hand, seeks to explain what is observed with logic, reason and demonstrated repeatability of results, to verify and verify again. And again.

Empirical evidence.

"chemtrails" have none..

reply to post by ProudBird


Well lets see, you may want to take a look at this....
Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation

or maybe take a look at this
SanLuis Tribune
or how bout this
The Guardian
or this one
Arabian Business

Nope, no weather modification going on anywhere....

Originally posted by logicalthinking
Well lets see, you may want to take a look at this....
Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation

Weather Modification - Currently, cloud-seeding projects designed to increase rainfall from convective cloud towers are conducted in nearly 31 million acres of Texas (or almost one-fifth of the state’s land area). In administering the Texas Weather Modification Act (enacted by the Texas Legislature in 1967),

You see that? 1967.

It's not a secret. And it's not chemtrails.

reply to post by logicalthinking


San Luis Obispo

The Guardian, UK

Arabian Times.

ALL talk about the sort of "weather modification" known as cloud seeding.

Get it clearly.......contrails are a type of cirrus cloud. Cirrus clouds NEVER produce precipitation.

Got it?

I was saying that there is weather modification going on. I never said contrails produce rain. Get it! Also would cloud seeding not be geo engineering?

Originally posted by logicalthinking
So tell me what your definition of what chemtrails are. I was saying that there is weather modification going on. I never said contrails produce rain. Get it! Also would cloud seeding not be geo engineering?

If so, then we've been geoengineering publicly and openly since the 1960s

Yes this is what I said. If you go back to my original post and read I put chem/con trails. Not chemtrails a lone. As I stated I can't prove chemtrails exist, You can not prove they do not. I said there was a massive amount, a lot more than usual in the sky for whatever reason. Also check out this source, scroll down on the page, they acknowledge that this is an option, so why have things like this been reported since the 70's now all of a sudden the government uses the idea that a bunch of "conspiracy theorists" supposedly made up in their sick little minds? . Pretty damn ironic dont ya think? Or maybe its something more to the effect of ppl are catching on so quick, give an explanation.
Gov website

reply to post by logicalthinking

Also check out this source, scroll down on the page, they acknowledge that this is an option, so why have things like this been reported since the 70's now all of a sudden the government uses the idea that a bunch of "conspiracy theorists" supposedly made up in their sick little minds?

Hard to tell who you are "replying" to. So:

I'll take this........

The source linked is about the well-known study of "aerosols" in the Earth's atmosphere. This is not an example of "spraying" activity.

"aerosols" is a term used to describe many things that exist in our atmosphere, and in this article, it relates to both natural contributions, and also those that Human activity contribute. Also known as "air pollution".

Has nothing, at all, to do with so-called "chemtrails". Since, what are mistaken as "chemtrails" are merely quite normal airplane contrails. Composed of ice crystals.....the same ice crystals that are found in cirrus clouds.

So.....contrails are just a type of cirrus cloud. YES! Contrails are "man-made" cirrus clouds!!! That is true. BUT, that is the extent of it.

Period.

Full stop.