UFO found on Apollo photo AS10-31-4587

reply to post by Zanti Misfit


The file name says something about Apollo 11. It isn't, it's Apollo 15.
All I see is a hill.

reply to post by loves a conspiricy


i dare you to spot the shadow of any plane you are actively viewing. Not to mention that it is probobly so high above the surface than any projected shadow would be miles away and theoretically out of shot,

reply to post by 1967sander


It's too symetrical down both sides for it to be a rock or pile of dirt, and could be a craft of some sort. I'm sure I'm going to be called all sorts of names by those who it seems offered their opinion without paying much attention to the video, if any. Good post, by the way!

reply to post by 1967sander


In regaurds to your curiosity of what others may think this is, i have some input.

Now this response is directed towards the OP(while obviously others may respond this response is MY OPINION......remember that its my OPINION not what im claiming to be as fact)

The second i looked at the zoomed in image of the object in question i got goosebumps. On the night of new years eve switching over to 2010 from 2009 i was in new york city, in my friends dorm room where one of the walls is entirely full length glass windows, so there was the most ideal view of new york you could probobly ask for. Throughout the night we saw many baloons let go over the city and i watched many of them float all the way up into the atmosphere and dissapear as it was a quite "uneventful" night and we were just hanging out. Well late into the night about 2 or 3 am i was watching a single black baloon in the distance that appeared to be all the way on the other side of whatever island i was on.(it may have been closer but it was deffinatly far in some sense of the word) This baloon did not rise up into the atmosphere it bobbed and floated around for about 20 minutes or so all the while dissapearing and reapearing behind buildings. Now im fully aware that wind currents can carry baloons around and prevent them from going any furthur up into the atmosphere, so that's not the wierd part. The strange part was when it was within 100 yards of the window of the room i was in(which was about 5 to 7 stories tall)i tried pointing it out just because i thought it was cool that it came so close and we could see it. So i tried pointing it out and no one else could even see it, which was strange because it was as obvious to me as an elephant in the middle of a vacant parking lot. so after trying to point it out to no avail the baloon quitly floated away. It came back again, several times, and each time i tried to point it out again, it wasn't until after 2 or 3 times that ONE out of 4 people(including myself) saw it, than the next time the other person was able to see it as well.(my one friend said that he never saw anything though) Progressively, as they each realized that they could see it, when that moment of realization came they freaked out as if they realized it wasn't a baloon or something. Than i started getting creeped. It went away, yet again, and showed up one final time for the night. The last time it showed up it floated within 10 feet of the window, so we actually had a chance to get a clear look.

this is where it gets wierd.

when you tried to visually define the astethic shape of the object, it escaped itself. So it was like you were seeing it, but yet you couldn't look at it if you tried. Overall though, in my mind the mental picture i have of it is an obligatorily shifting black thing.

Now, i know your probobly wondering wtf does this have to do with the OP, and it may have absoloutly nothing to do with it at all, but you asked for insight, and when i saw the picture I instantly thought of that, so i thought id tell my story.

Let me know what you think.

reply to post by loves a conspiricy


Well what a major coincedence! The white "crater" as you call it is the absolute brightest part of the entire picture and funny enough the symmetrical piece of dirt is the darkest at the same time. I wonder if we can find a picture which reveals that there is no crater on the spot where you think there is one. We have the coordinates of the Apollo 10 when they flew over the area. So what do you think is there a crater?

Im done here....its clearly aliens...no more investigation needed See ya

Your program is unreliable. It can create all sorts of shapes when you do such mapping with the picture. The triangle could be an artifact, I also say nothing to suggest any aircraft or machine.,, The hole/den that you showed is also caused by the program

You cant see what is below a surface by using a software to edit the picture... It is like me finding out how many teeth I have from a picture of me using some program to make shapes and count them

reply to post by 1967sander


Dude, I liked it. It didn't provide absolute proof, but it is within the realm of possibility. To emphatically insist it is dirt is just as ridiculous as to insist it is absolute proof. I found it thought provoking. It does look like some kind of lamp or power source radiating from the bottom. Also what I find interesting is the light is shining directly into the crater and it seems to me the top of that object should also be lit. Any way Good Job Bro. Keep up the good work.

reply to post by Imtor


What program are your referring too? The QESR? Have you downloaded the picture and tried to increase it with any standard software? You will achieve the same results! NO! You just like to give your negative comments, and thats what makes you a happy person. You have absolutely NO IDEA what you are talking about and do not even bother to check it.

reply to post by 1967sander


I'd love to know the precise steps taken to get your final result. Because I sincerely hope your not increasing the image size pre-analysis, which would obviously introduce false data...

reply to post by BagBing


I spotted this dark "thing" on photo AS10-31-4587 on the NASA website.
Found it on the Keithdelaney website as well. I compared both images but as people have accused
this site of deliberate image tampering I went back for the original from NASA itself.

1 - downloaded the photo from both websites and wrote down their Md5 hash.
2 - found the black anomaly on both photos (these is no real difference in quality)
3 - took the one from the official NASA website, opened it in Irfanview using normal settings.
4 - Saw the strange semi-circle bright ring underneath the object.
5 - Opened the object in QESR and noticed that the bright ring consists of 5 areas with bright centre.
6 - Increased resolution at first 2x to 2002x2002 no significant artifacts visible that changed the original object
7 - increased resolution again to 4004x4004 no significant artifacts visible that changed the original object
8 - increased resolution again to 8008x8008 - no significant artifacts visible that changed the original object
9 - stopped increasing as unwanted noise would be produced.
10 - started to study the object and saw that it was not created by stitching (as mentioned), that it was not a reflection and noticed that brightness of the ring and the blackness of the object are totally different than anything else visible in the photo.
11 - I opened the increased image (8008x8008) in Reindeer Optics - Optipix Auto Contrast and the program showed me the object with 5 bright areas. One very bright just below the black object and 2 lesser bright ones on either side of the object but symmetrical. So this could not be a crater and in my view neither a reflection nor anything else.
12 - I cut out the piece with of the UFO from the auto contrast filter and saved it. Than I decreased / increased contrast / gamma / brightness resulting in the other images.

Basically no special techniques were used. Optipix auto contrast is a commercial forensic filter but nothing spectacular. I deliberately did not use any of my other software in order to show everyone that they also can achieve the same enhancement results with "standard" editing software.

Fact is that the black object has these 2 strange symmetrical bright areas on either side and the brightest underneath. Let anyone please show me that there are craters on the moon that can produce this kind of anomalies.

Why there is no shadow on the moon surface has also puzzled me. I have tried to find the film sequence of Apollo 10 while they flew over this area so maybe we should be able to see the object there.

Greetz,

Sander

Complete and utter bovine manure.

It's not even symmetrical, it's unevenly shaped. The only anomaly might be the part that looks like a reflection on the hill. See my enhanced image.

Here's the best detail enhancement. Nothing but a hill, but the triangle thing below is strange. Like someone edited the photo. But it's no ufo in the saucer shape above, because their is NO symmetry.

Enchanced Image

there is allot of pyramid shapes in that photo.
in the area you are talking about but they are pointing up.

Originally posted by 1967sander
reply to post by youdidntseeme

 

I challenge you to proof that these are artifacts. Show me the stitch, show me where it was stitched.

Sofar you only make claims but have no evidence whatsoever.

You have some nerve, 1967sander! You start a thread with a title that is a claim and what you include as evidence is questionable and everyone has given you their opinion disagreeing with you and you take umbrage? It doesn't matter if the poster also made stich claims, yours is no better.

BTW, you challenge the poster to prove not "proof".

I'm sorry. I copied the pic onto my computer and ran it through photoshop, enhanced it through filters, enlarged it, and stared at it through a magnifying glass. It looks like photo artifacts to me. Dust on the lens, or on the negative, or an imperfection in the negative. I could be anything, even an alien ship, I just don't know. But to me, it looks like an artifact.

1967Sander is banned/no longer comes here. The OP is from 2011, this thread has just been necro'd for some reason or other.

Sander no longer allows public access to their youtube channel either which is a bit of a shame I suppose. Not because I 100% agree with the person's work, but I think they were overly sensitive about those disagreements and weren't doing anything more odd than half the people at ATS do.

I would say since Sander isn't here to defend, it should just be left alone.