Obama and Company offer another Swipe at the 2nd Amendment

reply to post by macman


How on Earth would someone know where to avoid if it's not clearly marked off and please try and provide and adult and intelligent response please?

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
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How on Earth would someone know where to avoid if it's not clearly marked off and please try and provide and adult and intelligent response please?

DUH!!! I don't know, maybe I will wipe the drool off my keyboard.

I guess where you come from, if there are no signs or ropes, then you are just doomed to die.

Out West, Common sense rules.

If you are out, you listen and look around you. Geez, this is not that hard.
It sounds as if you have not been out of the City.
Same way to know where the bad part of the city is. Look, listen and common sense.

I have yet to hear of anyone out West getting shot while hiking due to wandering into the line of fire of people shooting.


To add. Best leave the outdoors to the Country Boys.
We don't need signs or ropes or barricades to keep us safe.

reply to post by macman


Figured, a childish reply because you know not of what you are saying is flat out and dead wrong. In this case I happen to know of what I speak of. May not have a job or a degree in the field. Common sense should've taught you by now to not lead yourself into mindless distractions and to have the know how to identify one as such so that you can take the appropriate measures to counteract it. The mines they set for you are too easy!

People often overlook the militia part in the 2nd. Lets face it, most gunowners couldnt stop a cold with their arsenal, much less take on a goverment that has turned against its people.

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More Blah Blah Blah.


Leave the outdoors to people with common sense.
Stay in the City. It seems to work for you.

In all my years, and as dumb as you think I am, I have yet to wonder in front of anyone shooting.
Common sense.
You have never been out in the wilderness have you? Let alone the West Deserts?

reply to post by TheImmaculateD1


I dont think you're really grasping the scale of the land in question and the usage it receives.

It's hard for people in places like the Northeast or the Southeast to really understand just how much of America is simply land and how very little use that land gets.

You can spend a week camping, shooting and riding ATVs all over a few hundred acres of some of these places and never see another human being except for who's in your camping group.

These arent like city parks. These arent even like state parks in many densely populated areas. For somebody coming from Jersey, for example, these are like completely foreign worlds that dont reflect or represent anything in a dinky state like Jersey or even a state as empty as New Hampshire or Vermont.

It's not like there are bus loads of children visiting everyday. And even if there were you'd likely never notice they were there given the sheer size of the area. Unlike in the Northeast where a bus load of kids show up at even the largest state park and everybody knows it because as large as the park seems, as large as even the White Mountain national forest seems, it's really pretty tiny in comparison.

Worrying about somebody shooting in one of these places is like somebody in Maine worrying about me shooting in New Hampshire.

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It has nothing to do with how used or underused the land is as what I am saying is that

NJ has about the same if not more greenspace then the nation does by comparison. The only thing NJ doesn't have is a desert, we've got mountains, wetlands, urban centres, farmland, The world famous Jersey Shore (we don't have beaches we have The Shore) and billions of acres of greenspace. More then like 35% of NJ's landspace is greenspace.

IE, when developing and drawing up designs to improve how state as National parks operate to create new infrastructure for an increase is positive tourism attendance and revenue you can't place the campground, the ball field and the shooting gallery in the same quadrant. Tourism stuff to the north end of the property with the shooting gallery on the south end of the property facing south!

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Then have your state do the state law.
The broad sweeping Federal Law in not needed and not wanted.

Stay in Jersey.

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1Tourism stuff to the north end of the property with the shooting gallery on the south end of the property facing south!

If they're 120 miles apart what does it matter?

Right now there's an active firing range point right at me that's a lot closer than 120 miles. Its pointed at a whole downtown area. But back stops abounds make it a non-issue.

It's not like somebody is going to stand in an open area and start spinning in circles firing wildly in all directions and if somebody were reckless or stupid enough to do such a thing they'd do it regardless of clearly marked zones.

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How does requiring alerts and fences VIOLATE THE 2ND AMEMDMENT?

You still haven't answered this and have been skirting and side stepping this very question.

reply to post by thisguyrighthere


120 mile in straight distance with a bullet flying at nearly 2,000 miles an hour will be from end to end in minutes. But there is at least some sort of signage saying where's safe and where's not right?

Say the range is in the centre of the parcel right, to the south would be parking and to the south of that would be the range with the distance and direction of flight path face east with a town facing both north and west!

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
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How does requiring alerts and fences VIOLATE THE 2ND AMEMDMENT?

You still haven't answered this and have been skirting and side stepping this very question.

Signs and fences are not needed.
It forcefully places people in those areas to shoot.
I guess it would be ok then to fence people in that want to hike.
The slow erosion is the violation.

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
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120 mile in straight distance with a bullet flying at nearly 2,000 miles an hour will be from end to end in minutes.

So then you do worry in Jersey every time a trigger is pulled within a 120 mile radius of you?

If this is genuinely hoe you feel there there's no point continuing this back and forth since you'd clearly be motivated by irrational fear.

There are more ranges in closer proximity in Jersey City if you do a Google maps search. Everyday must be terrifying for you. I count 6 ranges in about 20 miles.

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by thisguyrighthere

 

120 mile in straight distance with a bullet flying at nearly 2,000 miles an hour will be from end to end in minutes. But there is at least some sort of signage saying where's safe and where's not right?

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Good hell.

What is with people from the North East and Cities?
Signs do not equal safety and security.
They are merely a false sense of.

The warm and fuzzy feeling of a sign stating to beware ahead must be intoxicating.

reply to post by macman


OK, let me get the campsite right next to yours, pull out my weapon and point it at your camp and fire, since I'm practicing my rights there isn't nothing you can say or do about it as if you tried to intervene you'd be violating my rights! Even if my weapon is pointed directly at your camp and I happen to take out you car's tire I am exercising my rights and there'd be nothing that you could do. Wild west rules apply right? How about I go down to the ball park and start using the batting cages as target practice with people inside?

Do you see the hypocrisy in your statement?

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Hudson County, New Jersey boasts 3 shooting ranges and not one is located or facing either a populated area or a area where tourists are known to be.

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by macman

 

How does requiring alerts and fences VIOLATE THE 2ND AMEMDMENT?

You still haven't answered this and have been skirting and side stepping this very question.

This must produce endorphins like no other.

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By doing that you're not only violating common sense but several laws. His camp is an occupied structure.

Do we have to draw you a map and explain berms and physics?

Are you the reason Jersey has such awful gun laws? Voting with zero experience and no apparent common sense? Or are you just trying to get a rise out of others by posing to support an absurd position?

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Nice photoshop fakery right there!

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
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Hudson County, New Jersey boasts 3 shooting ranges and not one is located or facing either a populated area or a area where tourists are known to be.

Really? Each range has a clear line of sight into infinity? Really?