IRAN has attacked no one in 100 yrs? How many countries has USA?? =L

Originally posted by Power_Semi
One thing that gets me is that they showed photos on the news of weapons, etc supposedly supplied by Iran to "insurgents" in Iraq - the writing on the crates, etc was ALL in ENGLISH.

Since English is not the natural language of Iran, wouldn't the writing be in Arabic?

No.

Not always. Iranians are Persians who are fairly sophisticated and cultured people who once upon a time had closer ties to the Global community and West and have been exposed to the modern world, In addition to Arabic try Farsi AND English

It seems very convenient that they've spray painted English words like IRAN on the crates so the folks at home can read it for themselves without it needing translation first.

Yeah just like they spray painted "Police" on their Police uniforms in English during their violent crackdown of the protests over the Iranian Governments Stealing of the Election fairly recently...

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Propaganda?

You tell us?

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Wow those pictures show great restraint by the police, one protester is coming at him baton waving and the police officer is just spraying paint at him and backing up while his buddies seem to be jumping on their bikes and trying to get their asses outa there. Also those protesters don't look to peaceful to my eyes, the baton really gives it away.

I wonder what would have happened to the guy in green if that pic was from America, actually i don't wonder, he'd be full of about 50 bullets before his right foot touched back on the floor.

And as for the peaceful protesters in the usa they get this treatment



Anyone see any peaceful protesters waving batons charging the police in that video?

No, me neither, odd that

Originally posted by Unrivaled1
Wow those pictures show great restraint by the police....

I wonder what would have happened to the guy in green if that pic was from America, actually i don't wonder, he'd be full of about 50 bullets before his right foot touched back on the floor....

Reality check

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Batons vs real Bullets.....

You tell me

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Desperate times desperate measures aye guys
Come on what do those pictures prove? I could show you millions of pictures of injured people and say they where attacked by mary poppins, doesn't make it true though does it

Originally posted by Unrivaled1
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What does that prove? I could show you millions of pictures of injured people and say they where injured by mary poppins, doesn't make it true though does it

In Iran many of the protesters were outright SHOT.

Not beaten, not hit with rubber projectiles...but good ole' 7.62x39.

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As i recall it IRANS response to the shootings stated that armed protesters where attacking a government building and police or something along those lines

Any particular reason why you think i should believe a lying war mongering government and it's lying warmongering press that serves the bankers over it's own people and not a Sovereign nation that hasn't invaded anyone and rejects the international cabal of bankers?

Originally posted by Unrivaled1
reply to post by SLAYER69

 

What does that prove? I could show you millions of pictures of injured people and say they where attacked by mary poppins, doesn't make it true though does it

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So Go to Iran,and spout your Ideology. I dare you to.

Its called plausibly denying.............................

Originally posted by Unrivaled1
reply to post by SLAYER69

 

What does that prove? I could show you millions of pictures of injured people and say they where attacked by mary poppins, doesn't make it true though does it

No it doesn't, It does however make it abundantly clear that you are either unaware of the or are in denial of the reality that many here at ATS a few years back witnessed, discussed, debated and argued over.

Those are legitimate images of what really transpired. Just like the video you posted happened. So now which is it? I acknowledged your video, will you accept the factual images of events that transpired in Iran or are you going to be in denial like the rest here defending Iran when it comes to posting facts?

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A trip there would be nice, it's a beautiful country with much history.

But theres no need for me to talk about these things over there, they haven't illegally invaded and pillaged countries like theres no tomorrow and aren't threatening other countries with invasion for not bowing down to Israel.

Originally posted by Unrivaled1
reply to post by projectvxn

 

As i recall it IRANS response to the shootings stated that armed protesters where attacking a government building and police or something along those lines

Any particular reason why you think i should believe a lying war mongering government and it's lying warmongering press that serves the bankers over it's own people and not a Sovereign nation that hasn't invaded anyone and rejects the international cabal of bankers?

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So you believe the Iranian government's (and it's state-run media's) account and not the protesters, but in America, you believe the protestors and not the media, is that correct?

Not always. Iranians are Persians who are fairly sophisticated and cultured people who once upon a time had closer ties to the Global community and West and have been exposed to the modern world, In addition to Arabic try Farsi AND English

SLAYER69 definitely makes a far better point than I did a page back.

The majority of Iranians know Arabic for religious purposes, Farsi because it is their ancient/modern language, and English.

Unlike the Western world, a second language, which the countries deem to be English; sometimes French, is *required* for most Mid/Near East Countries from the time a child enrolls in school (regardless of income/social status).

Even Bedouins know more English than most Westerners know any other language.

The supporting pictures he posted tell it all....

Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
Yup - this is a bogus thread. The Mullahs acting according to their 12'vr beliefs need to start WWIII, hopefully eliminating all the infidel powers, provoking Israel to destroy the Sunni leadership and bring back their Mahdi.

They need the pretext of justifiable revenge to do what they plan to - hence the backing of Israel into a corner and just waiting for them to strike first - a clean surgical strike of their underground facilities, they have already been funneled nuclear weapons from the 'collapsed' Soviet union as well as NK.

That is what this thread and the hundreds of other similar threads are about - building a drip drip picture in the minds of idiots that Iran is some sort of victim in all of this.

There's plenty of evidence linking Iran to insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as arming Hezbullah and Hamas. But the problem is, people like you will never accept ANY evidence, you'll just flail about and claim the evidence is planted because it contradicts your world view.

In short, there's no logical debate to be had with people like you: you never admit you're wrong, you're never willing to critically think about your own position. In short, you're just a mindless drone. Logic and facts are 4-letter words to you.

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What does that prove? I could show you millions of pictures of injured people and say they where attacked by mary poppins, doesn't make it true though does it

What about first-hand accounts by Iranian women now living in the US because of the government?

They have death warrants on their heads because of the regime if they are to return because of their wants, simple freedoms, of faith and education?

Surely you cannot ignore real-life women who will never see their families again?

Do you have skype?

Originally posted by Unrivaled1

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You can keep editing your posts all you want [After the FACT] it doesn't add anything of real substance.

Originally posted by Power_Semi
One thing that gets me is that they showed photos on the news of weapons, etc supposedly supplied by Iran to "insurgents" in Iraq - the writing on the crates, etc was ALL in ENGLISH.

This is because they were manufactured for export.

Originally posted by Kram09
There are some scary brainwashed people in this thread and surprise surprise the majority of them are all Americans.

All I can do is point out the fact that Iran has made its intentions to destroy the US known for 32 years. Ahmadinejad has been openly threatening the US and Israel existence since 2005. If you do not think that he will follow through with his intentions once he acquires the means then you are mistaken. I knew US would begin beating the war drums soon, and I don’t like the prospects of another war. However, of all the wars of late, I believe an attack on Iran is absolutely justified and essential. As a matter of fact, I believe we should have taken Iran out a long time ago. Besides, no other country has enough stones to do it. Yours obviously doesn’t!

2005

Iran's new president created a sense of outrage in the west yesterday by describing Israel as a "disgraceful blot" that should be "wiped off the face of the earth".

2005

On October 26, 2005, when Iranian dictator Mahmoud Ahmadinejad vowed before the whole world to "wipe Israel off the face of the earth," he also vowed in the same speech to destroy America. But the Bolshevik, Muslim-loving news media never reported that portion of his remarks. "Is it possible for us to witness a world without America and Zionism? But you should know that this slogan and this goal are achievable, and certainly can be achieved," Ahmadinejad proclaimed before the huge crowd in Teheran. The crowd responded with the popular Islamic chant, "Death to America!"

2011

For the past 32 years, the Iranian regime has pledged to destroy the United States, or the "Great Satan" as Iran's leaders call it. Now that Iran is on the verge of acquiring nuclear weapons, the country appears closer than ever to accomplishing that goal. The Iranians --took out apostrophe -- believe America is a declining power and they're bringing the fight to U.S. soil.

2011

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says his country will not retreat from its nuclear program. He made the comment after the International Atomic Energy Agency released a new report on Tuesday. In the report, the IAEA expressed deep concern over Iran’s nuclear development. The report said Iran has conducted high explosive tests and has been working on developing detonators to set off a nuclear charge.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by AlienStalker

 

Overtly 0

Covertly about 4 or 5.

Which countries? Name them.

Originally posted by Kram09

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by AlienStalker

 

Overtly 0

Covertly about 4 or 5.

Which countries? Name them.

Well...

You are in denial about their Covert actions in Iraq so I doubt you'll accept their Covert activities in Saudi Arabia, Israel and or Afghanistan. Should we talk about Azerbaijan?

So, what would be the point?

reply to post by SLAYER69


Thanks for the article there.

I especially liked the part where it mentioned how Iran had attacked Azerbaijan.

Do you have links pertaining to the other countries?

Attack

Noun: An aggressive and violent action against a person or place

Verb: Take aggressive action against (a place or enemy forces) with weapons or armed force

reply to post by SLAYER69


Also regarding that article....if you're going to suddenly regard espionage and lots of hot air as an "attack" then the United States is "attacking" many many countries as we speak, including it's allies. As is Britain, Israel, Russia etc etc.