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Originally posted by RationalTeddy
reply to post by ottobot
You are not just entertainment!!! And I like to take the time to answer because at the end of 2011 I was in a dark place and thought it would never end. If I can help or at least support somebody when they are there too, I must try. Or not?
I had/have the EXACT same issue with accepting compliments and kind words. Always doubting myself, not feeling worthy or simply distrusting other people for not being honest with what they were saying.
There is a part of you that might want to protect you. This could be from events earlier in your life where you experienced bad behavior from people around you, hurting you either intentionally or not. You established a guard as a protective measure and now it has become automatic for you to "raise shields" constantly whenever there is somebody around.
With me, it went as far that I started to do weightlifting to even become physically "invincible" if need be. (There never was this need ) I still do it but I am less on the defensive now.
Back to you: Can you imagine that the voice/feeling that prevents you from accepting praise and good feelings or to let yourself feel safe, could actually be doing all this out of good faith? As a matter of fact, as strange as this may sound, could you maybe even be grateful for this part of you to spend so much energy to protect you?
I am in no way a therapist so take what I write next with caution: Have you ever looked into the possibility that you could be HSP? (Just to calm you, it is not an illness but a description of a trait that roughly 15% of the population share)
I found that it explains a lot of issues I had/have and how I react to the world.
Do not feel disgusted or upset about yourself! Accept what you feel, positive or negative, and gently make your way towards becoming more open towards the ones close to you.
Originally posted by creatureme
Lying in my bed, surfing the internet.. I don't feel sleepy. It's boring and my current activity seems meaningless.
reply to post by DaveNorris
weve al been in this situation, your in bed, on the internet, you get bored, but remember if you play with it too much it'll fall off lol sorry, i tend to use humor to cheer up sad and lonely people....did it work???? come on, i saw u smile lol
Originally posted by creatureme
Dear Ottobot and Rational Teddy
Have now read through your posts, and are slightly hitting myself in the head - because the issues that you guys are talking about is what I have been trying to convey all the time. But I haven’t found the words for it..
But I struggle with the most difficult issues. I have no self-worth. I don’t have the capability to have a discussion with someone, because I "know" they are only out to win and beat me with those fancy phrases and their accumulated knowledge they so eagerly want/need/must/have to show off.
I can be so incredibly paranoid at most times and take a goodhearted advice for something completely different and it’s always in a bad way, and that can create chaos in my mind for several days after. Even now, when I read through what I have written, it reads like crap and the angst for you seeing this as...
Yes, I know exactly what you mean. Our thoughts are worse than anything anyone else could ever think or say. One trick I have learned is that when I hear those thoughts go through my head, I listen to see if they are lies or not. If they are lies, I discard them as false. Anything about someone else's thoughts ("She probably thinks I'm an idiot.") are false. Because, only "She" knows what she is thinking!
This is what I am working with at the moment in therapy – Not trying to break down everybody’s intentions or thoughts about me. Because in most cases.. They are not true.. But even knowing this doesn’t make me want to trust them, be with them or try to connect with them.
I don't think that makes you weak. It just means that nobody has listened to you in your life. That wasn't a fun game for you because you haven't learned how to reach out to others yet. There's no rush, I think you are doing well - you stayed for whole game! Sure, you cried, but you realized why you cried. That is a good thing.
The other day I understood and experienced how weak I actually am as a person. It was only a simple game in a group therapy -session and it was supposed to be fun for everybody...I became left out, and lonely. Like I was when I was a child. Letting the confidents take over. It was awful.. I became invisible. The underdog’s doormat. Later I went to the bathroom as fast as I could to cry. And it was wonderful, to be alone to do my crying. I didn’t want to show the therapists how affected I was by this, and I think that was a huge mistake.
I don’t think I am missing anything in my life.. I have just been through a lot and struggling to find myself. I don’t know either who I am or supposed to be. Often I don’t even know how to explain the right things or saying the right stuff to feel respected and loved.
I am just.. a creative person and nice person..
These are insecurities. Recognize them for what they are - imaginary insults - and recognize why they bother you. Just because one person was rude doesn't mean we all think the same thing. I think you're nice and funny and smart and creative and interesting.
with secret episodes of panic attacks, intense crying over things that has nothing to do with me ... I am terrified of people thinking of me.
Originally posted by RationalTeddy
Dear ottobot and creatureme,
I am sorry to hear you were mistreated as children!
I think we "know" most things already. But if it is for you only a bit like with me, it is quite difficult to apply this knowledge, because the negative feelings are stronger.
Heart over mind anyone?
And I am also afraid that this is something that will never completely go away, ever. So if that actually is the case, I have to learn to live with it.
ottobot,
In one of your previous posts you mentioned you would like to be like me? Guess what, it is not that easy being me sometimes. I just had to find out again this weekend Talk about being emotionally sensitive coupled with overstimulation from your senses at a city festival.
Add to that keeping emotional distance to people you feel you can connect to in order to protect yourself from disappointment.
Sitting outside and thinking... Watching the stars from the balcony... Beatiful
Originally posted by RationalTeddy
reply to post by ottobot
Sadly for me, overcoming the emotional distance is not too difficult. It is keeping it with people who do not "deserve to have me" or where I know I can not get what I hope for.
I am not religious but at times I wished the universe/god/spaghetti monster/$deity would send me an angel/kind soul who would see through my shield.
Last weekend it happened, with me not having my guard up.
Guess what: She has a boyfriend...
That is one wicked sense of humor the universe has
Originally posted by ottobot
Originally posted by RationalTeddy
reply to post by ottobot
Sadly for me, overcoming the emotional distance is not too difficult. It is keeping it with people who do not "deserve to have me" or where I know I can not get what I hope for.
I am not religious but at times I wished the universe/god/spaghetti monster/$deity would send me an angel/kind soul who would see through my shield.
Last weekend it happened, with me not having my guard up.
Guess what: She has a boyfriend...
That is one wicked sense of humor the universe has
Who cares if she has a boyfriend? Boyfriend is not Husband. If she's as awesome as you say she is, that guy should have married her already. (Assuming, of course, she is old enough to be married.)
Maybe the reason she had a boyfriend when she met you is so that she could see how much better than her boyfriend you are and then you can be her boyfriend.
Maybe the reason she had a boyfriend when she met you is so that you will learn how to open yourself to her without getting too attached, and when she dumps the bf, you will be able to give her time on her own before trying to get closer.
I don't know, I'm just trying to look on the bright side for you, RationalTeddy.
For myself, I have no hope that there is anyone to help me. I am 99.9% sure I was destined to be alone on that front. Ruined my chances already.
And, the thing I want more than anything is to be able to trust someone and know how to love.
The universe does, indeed, have a wicked sense of humor.
I'm sorry I can't be of more use, I am having a weird day of trying to figure things out. /sighedit on 7/9/2012 by ottobot because: (no reason given)