Massive Chemtrail Attack: Midwest

Well, away from these boards, chemtrails are almost never mentioned at all by anyone I know and on the rare occasions that they are it is done mockingly and accompanied by laughter.

Originally posted by moondoggy2
There was also quite a bit of ChemTrail activity in Southern Ontario. Primarily around Georgian Bay, (Part of Lake Huron), and the Niagara Escarpment.

ChemTrails HERE!

I left you a message on your blog. I sure hope it's approved!
although I doubt it.

reply to post by dw31243

I searched ATS for this video and found one that is older than this one. This video is of a conference that took place on October 23rd 2011.
Now here is solid proof that chem-trails are a reality, although it is presented as something that they are studying and really haven't begun yet, is not really the whole truth. And I don't think that the woman on this video is trying to cover up anything, on the contrary, she is trying to inform the people to what is going on.
Anyone that tries to debunk this, are either very bored or they have an agenda that was given to them.



www.agriculturedefensecoalition.org...

reply to post by hawaii50th


Thanks for providing that video.
The woman's name in the video is Rosalind Peterson. 30 Year California Dept of Agriculture Veteran for Crop Loss Adjusting Statewide and Geoengineering Researcher and Expert.

This video below is a documentary of her work investigating chemtrails. She is one of the co-founders of California Skywatch

reply to post by hawaii50th



for those unwilling to spend 80 minutes watching the video, the accompanying Powerpoint persentation is also available - but it is big - a 46mb download - download it here

Rosalind's claims are not new, not supported by much data (the exceptions being such quotes as she makes showing that people are talking about geoengineering), and specifically avoid any mention of chemtails at all.

If you care to specify which claims you think are important I'm sure someone will waste their time debunking them for you

reply to post by MathiasAndrew

Your very welcome. Yes, below the video I posted is a little explanation of her name and her website on youtube.
The arrogance of the people that are trying control nature is just complete madness. And the problems that the arrogant have created go so deep. The whole situation with all the troubles that mankind is in is like being in a hole where every time you try to dig deeper, more dirt falls into the hole.

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul

She probably didn't use the term chem-trails cause it sounds too conspiratorial, and so she avoided that word and I don't blame her if that was her thoughts.
Almost everything she said I already knew about. I haven't had the time to go over her website yet, but I will and if I find anything of more value, I'll post it here.

Rosalind Peterson deliberately avoids mentioning "chemtrails", but she's very much a believer.

She has practically zero evidence on which to base her claims though. Just the usual observations of contrails, and some records of spikes in metals in water that correspond with increased rainfall (when they would be expected, due to increased erosion).

Hang on a minute,

Originally posted by hawaii50th

Now here is solid proof that chem-trails are a reality, although it is presented as something that they are studying and really haven't begun yet, is not really the whole truth.

So it's solid proof, but it's not what is claimed, and now you say chemtrails are specifically NOT mentioned, but that's what it's about? Why, because you say it is?

Sorry but that sounds like a particularly desperate reach for "evidence". Could you claim an episode of "Life on Mars" was evidence instead? At least it would have entertained me, Gene Hunt is awesome. The original, that is.

I was going to try to watch it, but you put me off

Originally posted by hawaii50th
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul

 

She probably didn't use the term chem-trails cause it sounds too conspiratorial, and so she avoided that word and I don't blame her if that was her thoughts.

She uses the term "persistent contrails" in her power point, and only associates them with water vapour and combustion pollutants that I can see.

I am starting to enjoy this
both sides of the Chemtrail/Contrail debate
demand facts not stated before.
So lets discuss persistent contrails and the lack of Vitamin D.
And how the affects of contrails on the Human Reproductive System, and possibly be a form of
Birth Control.

Sunshine on My Ovaries Makes Me Happy

But are we compromising our fertility by hiding in the shade? The sun is a significant source of Vitamin D, which has been linked recently to a woman’s fertility. So was John Denver right way back then about sunshine on your shoulders making you happy? And should we have trusted the Beatles when they told us “Here comes the sun…and I say ‘it’s alright’?”

www.eastcoastfertility.com...[day]=03&cHash=a99123 018d48d3c113a4eb9d85cce5bd

reply to post by Gmoneycricket


That should probably be a seperate thread - Kellog's are putting vitamin D into cereal, which has been seized on by chemmies all over the world as further "proof" of chemtrails.

Never mind that the article specifically mentions factors such modern behaviours as being the problem -

Doctors say they are seeing a rise in cases because children are generally spending more time indoors on computer games and watching TV. At the same time, many parents worry about exposing their children to sunlight – with the risk of skin cancer – and cover them in high-protection creams.

As opposed to after WW2 when exposure to sunlight was seen as health enhancing - I was raised in eth 60's, and was a "sunshine baby" - we used to go out wearing not so much, sunscreen was pretty much unheard of, and there were no fears about cancer - no chance of rickets there!!

However I had an aunt who had rickets - having been born in the depression & at that time rickets had only recently been found to be treatable.

I gave you star
I like how you tell the truth
even add personal stories.
Mine would be I know people that get depressed
on over cast days.

You should know
I am not afraid what I see in the sky
Maybe annoyed.
I know they are contrails
I am afraid of what I don't see.
Harmless water vapor bothers me
steam can burn or be harmless
water vapor like a child in a burning bath.
You at the airlines are not spraying us,
maybe a little pollution but same as us.
I have seen comments
Chemtrail religion make fun of them,
there is no prove of god but many believe in him.
I was taught don't be to hard
on a another believe, you explain views
but don't come in and burn them down
like they did those in Waco

Looks like the Midwest Chemtrail attack has moved to the East coast.

Here is the Modis picture from over Boston Massachusetts on November 7th, 2011.

It looks to me that those planes spraying the Chemtrails are not landing at any airport I know.

Originally posted by dw31243
Looks like the Midwest Chemtrail attack has moved to the East coast.

Here is the Modis picture from over Boston Massachusetts on November 7th, 2011.

It looks to me that those planes spraying the Chemtrails are not landing at any airport I know.

You should check out the contrails south of LA today:



Contrails do not follow the track of the plane. They are actually at an angle to that track determined by the wind, so they don't point at the origin or destination airports. See the following rather famous example of this.

contrailscience.com...

Originally posted by Uncinus

Originally posted by dw31243
Looks like the Midwest Chemtrail attack has moved to the East coast.

Here is the Modis picture from over Boston Massachusetts on November 7th, 2011.

It looks to me that those planes spraying the Chemtrails are not landing at any airport I know.

You should check out the contrails south of LA today:

Contrails do not follow the track of the plane. They are actually at an angle to that track determined by the wind, so they don't point at the origin or destination airports. See the following rather famous example of this.

contrailscience.com...

Great job Uncinus!

Now just find me those call-signs and tail numbers of those Chemtrail planes on flightaware.com. But wait, the planes that spray those Chemtrails are not commerical traffic but military planes and have no transponders so the we can not track them.

Originally posted by dw31243



Great job Uncinus!

Now just find me those call-signs and tail numbers of those Chemtrail planes on flightaware.com. But wait, the planes that spray those Chemtrails are not commerical traffic but military planes and have no transponders so the we can not track them.

He did all that in this thread - www.abovetopsecret.com...

It is a Raytheon plane call sign VooDoo1, it is a Boeing 727-200 used by Raytheon to test their avionics products. It was fully visible on flightaware. You will find more data about it, its FAA registrar page, etc., in that thread.

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by dw31243



Great job Uncinus!

Now just find me those call-signs and tail numbers of those Chemtrail planes on flightaware.com. But wait, the planes that spray those Chemtrails are not commerical traffic but military planes and have no transponders so the we can not track them.

He did all that in this thread - www.abovetopsecret.com...

It is a Raytheon plane call sign VooDoo1, it is a Boeing 727-200 used by Raytheon to test their avionics products. It was fully visible on flightaware. You will find more data about it, its FAA registrar page, etc., in that thread.

edit on 8-11-2011 by Aloysius the Gaul because: (no reason given)

From my personal experience I have tried to track the Chemtrail airplanes on flightaware.com and they never show up. I know there is a delay of 5 to 10 minutes too. I do not think it would be that hard with over 10 planes spraying ever hour to track them. They never show up on there.

However, it is very interesting when I listen to the flight traffic controllers for the local airports tell the other planes "Be aware unkown plane XX miles above"

Check it out www.liveatc.net... www.liveatc.net

reply to post by dw31243


It is obvious you have NO idea what you're talking about!!!

However, it is very interesting when I listen to the flight traffic controllers for the local airports tell the other planes "Be aware unkown plane XX miles above"

I am well aware of "liveatc.net", and can listen to it and understand it....seems others who are NOT pilots cannot grasp what they hear.

There is NO traffic advisory from ATC that will say anything of the sort, from your quote above!! It's not even the proper phraseology, and it is NEVER, NEVER ever "miles above"!! Never.

So, I will call this one.....flat out lie. That statement above, as well as the entire history of the fake "chemtrails" threads and posts. This is borne out, time and again, by those of us with actual aviation experience and knowledge.

These sorts of threads deserve the HOAX bin.

Period.

Also:

Originally posted by dw31243
From my personal experience I have tried to track the Chemtrail airplanes on flightaware.com and they never show up. I know there is a delay of 5 to 10 minutes too.

This is not credible either. Again, it is either not entirely truthful, or is simply due to lack of experience and comprehension.

Perhaps if you had an experienced pilot to assist you, on one of these missions of "research using FlightAware, would be more helpful?

Notice how effortlessly simple it was to identify the airplane using the call sign "VooDoo1" today, over Southern California! On FlightAware.

Around 1430 today (that's 2:30 PM for draft dodgers) I was on the 91 freeway eastbound, going out to Fullerton, California for an appointment.

Saw the contrails, exactly as seen on the FlightAware graphic, though of course, they had drifted with the winds aloft, just a bit...... and some had dissipated in sections, and spread out in different ways.....which is perfectly normal.

Odd how I can understand it.....but, it all comes down to knowledge, experience and TRUTHFULNESS....eh?