"Rare October snowstorm slams U.S. Northeast" is this only the beginning?

reply to post by Helig


Good post.
Everyone should carry a folding shovel and make sure they have winter tyres fitted.
Over here, people even carry gravel and a spare car battery (kept fully charged - don't forget the starter cables).
Also, torch (flashlight), gloves, blanket, fresh water (don't leave it in the car or it'll freeze).
A flare is also a good idea if you travel remote roads.
Most importantly, tell people where and when you're travelling and when you expect to arrive.

Two months ago, Auckland, New Zealand, had snow, yes, its winter down there, but, that is the first time in seventy five years that city has seen snow, so perhaps Earths weather is not so sure what it is supposed to be doing?

Well. If this portends coming attractions, it is going to be a long, cold, hard, winter! Oh, and early already. I don’t know if you recall the article about entering an ice age, or maunder minimum type scenario, but it talked about the three years and what different climate events could mean.

Now, my question is about the movie, 'The Day After Tomorrow' and where their storyline idea came from? Was it based on some new research being done in universities trying to explain how we could have green bushes with leaves attached coming out from under a glacier in Central America or Northwest South America (I can't recall the documentary where it was), of the thousands of Wooly Mammoths frozen standing up apparently feeding in a summer field due to the food in the corpses mouth and stomachs?

I have read the books on Pole Shift by Hapgood and things of that nature, so I maintain an interest in it. This snow storm is in line with a climatologist's 3 year scenario that would tell if we were indeed heading into a mini ice age or maunder minimum scenario or not. The first year was snow in Europe, especially countries warmed by the now slowed Thermo-Haline conveyor bringing warm water from the tropics up the East coast of the US and crossing to near England where it disperses and sinks down where the water column continues south.

Last winter there was some satellite photos that showed the major portion of the Northern Hemisphere was white - covered in snow. This causes the reflectivity back in space resulting in further cooling. The climatologist, or atmospheric physicist (sorry, don’t recall his name, said the second year would be marked by Earlier Snowfall and it would last longer into the spring. This too would cause more of the solar radiation to be reflected into space. If that occurs this winter, then if the 3rd year there could be a winter like the "Year without a summer" in the 1800's sometime. This would indicate we were indeed heading into a cooler, possibly mini- Ice Age.

So, again I am asking about the theories in the movie, "The Day After Tomorrow" where super storms formed and pulled down extremely cold air from the upper atmosphere freezing anything in its path. Right now, as far as I can tell, this is the best theory to explain the sudden freezing of the Wooly Mammoths and Green Plants, bushes, etc. being suddenly frozen and covered by snowfall to preserve these things for our scientists to have found the today. Is there a body of research suggesting this rapid freezing due to some super storms, or was the movie just reaching for anything out of the writers imagine? And if not, how can we explain the sudden freezing of so many thousands of animals. Siberia is loaded with them. The cliffs that border the Northern Artic Ocean collapse all the time. There is an article written about the ivory that has fallen in to the shallow waters there from Wooly Mammoths estimated to be 150 Million Tons of ivory. There are scores of other animals that died suddenly in the super freeze, but the question is why and could it happen that fast again?

After reading the article, I had to think it was very good timing for OWS to have their generators taken away the day before. Almost timed to good..Hm........Could this be a snow storm manufactured by say HAARP to discourage everyone and motivate to go home? No, I have no proof. Just a thought that ran through my mind. Hm...

reply to post by Djdoubt03


I really wish people would deny ignorance and stop making such ignorant statements about something they obviously don't understand.

I don't have enough fingers to count the amount of times I've seen replies like yours. It's not funny anymore.

I keep reading over and over and over again on ATS how this weather "is normal" and that extreme weather here is "normal" and the extreme weather there is "normal" and how increased and more spectacular comet sightings are being recorded and reported is "normal" and how birds falling from the skies and sealife washing up on the shore in thousands is "normal" and to be quite honest all these things happening in a relative short space of time (increasing it seems as they go) do not seem very normal at all as it didn't all happen like this in the nearly four decades I've been alive.

I watched the hype with 2000 approaching and the worry about the crashes, millenium bug etc. which never worried me and like everyone else I watched it come and go and nothing happened just like all other failed predictions. I was never worried about 2012 when the hype started, but only a fool can say that things on this planet have been "normal" the past few years, I'm not saying it's because of some dwarf planet, or polar shifts, or something the Mayans knew that we didn't but something is happening and things are hitting extremes, for sure it is NOT "normal".

reply to post by lifttheveil


but in the "big picture of the Earth's existence", 40 yrs is but a blip. and as far as meteorological data, we've only been keeping track of that for a short period of time. so to say that it is out of the ordinary is not true, same with saying that it's normal...we don't actually have anything substantial to base it off of.

i'd say it's more of an anomaly when compared to the actual database of meteorological data that we have since keeping those records.

reply to post by lifttheveil


Methinks there are people paid to state that it's 'normal', and to ridicule those who do put 2 and 2 together....
And then there are those who cling to them and just repeat what the others have said.
Never has it been so clear that the 'Dumbing Down' has been effective. If something doesn't happen outside one's backdoor, or if it isn't repeated continuously on TV by the media puppets then most people either disregard it or just can't connect the dots.
Oh, wait, X Factor's starting... I've go to go

reply to post by Aestheteka


i DO get a fat check to say "nothing to see here. move along. all is as it should be."

reply to post by iNkGeEk


Ah, but you're the exception.
You get your orders from an immense squid like bat being from outer space who sits dreaming in a forgotten ancient city.
That's understandable.

reply to post by iNkGeEk


Why do people always bring up 'in metereological terms'? We're humans. We're flesh and blood. We haven't been here that long and we've been keeping records for even less time, plus we generally reject all records and observations made by civilizations which precede our current one because only we are 'modern' and think we know it all.
However, when we've noticed that, generally speaking, the entire world/solar system doesn't generally drop its pants and crouch over us on a daily basis and then suddenly begins doing so, some of us start paying attention.
This is a free society though (for the moment) so enjoy your sand-based head park.

It is El Nina

www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov...

reply to post by mnmcandiez


On Saturn and Uranus too?
Damn hispanics, eh? Blame them for everything...

El Nino and La Nina are effects, not the cause....

I started a thread a week or so ago:
www.abovetopsecret.com...


I have been saying that we are going to have a very harsh winter for months now... no one really took me seriously until we had a week's worth of freezing temps at night where I am. Usually we don't get a hard freeze until the end of November/December.

People on the east coast, stay warm, and good luck!

reply to post by Confusion42


Thanks for posting this, I love to see these weather related topics come up.
The weather drives alot of my work, so it bears paying attention too.

In my opinion, we are in for a worse winter than is being perdicted, and heres why- We have had several incidents of out of control widlfires this year around the globe, which allows drifting soot and ash into the atmosphere, we have also had several volcanoes erupt this year, and somewhere on earth there is probably one erupting right now spewing ash and debris into the atmosphere. Despite the abundance of solar flares this year, we had an especially cool summer in the U.S. where I live. Only a week or two of above 100degree temps where Im at, and that is very unusual. Plus we had alot of rain all across the world-hence the flooding, while other areas that are normally wet are receiving no rain at all. The Amazon got snow this year for heavens sake-VERY unusual.

So Ive been looking around at some weather information, The Farmers Almanac Predictions, Wikipedia(for info on the Little Ice Ages of the past), and several others.

They all seem to point to the world in genral, specifically the northern hemisphere have an extremely rough winter. The snow on the east coast I believe, is just the beginning.

As for what is causing it, I'd say its a combination of things, specifically volcanic dust, wildfire ash, La Nina/ El Nino, desalinization of our oceans currents I could go on and on-its the butterfly effect.

The question is- is this a cycle, or an isolated event, I think a cycle, if you look at the graphs related to the Little Ice Age, and the graphs for the last 100 years there is some close correlation, but not enough in my opinion to make a definite descision. So all in all- Who Knows.

For me- Ive laid in extra stores of fire wood, stocked my larder, and made sure I have extra candles, and water available, as always be prepared.

Nothing to see here; move along now...

Here's another one. This is the weather forecast from Sep 20th.

The big freeze: Britain set for snow as early as October

and instead -

Autumn 2011: October daily temperature record broken as temperatures reach 29.5C

I've just been told that tonight's night time temperature is supposed to be around 15 C in the UK.

I just love how many records (of extremes) are being broken this year and STILL people say it's normal

What it appears is happening is a start to a new Ice age.

Originally posted by Djdoubt03
Global warming my butt.
Doesn't seem very warm right now.

 

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When do you think its an appropriate time to demand that Al Gore gives back his oscar for "an inconvenient truth". i would then suggest they change the title too "a convenient lie".

To be honest, it really riles me up when I see people posting that all these events are NORMAL!

BS at its finest.

This winter in NZ, as someone mentioned earlier, we had snow falling in Auckland, for the first time in 75 years, but in lower parts of the North & South Island, we also had devasting heavy snowfalls, and in Christchurch where I live, experienced two major snow storms that practically shut our city down, and they were only a few weeks apart. What was even more unusual was that the last time we had snow in the city, it was over 17 years ago, and I believe it was the first winter where we actually experienced TWO major snow storms in one winter!

And please don't get me started on the over 5000 earthquakes we've had here in just over 12 months, or how earthquakes and volcanic activity has been steadily increasing worldwide this year, or how all the floods we're having w/w, seem to be breaking records (100 yr and 500 yr floods).

Just don't get me STARTED!