Hi Guys! New but got some WikiLeaks Info...

The Russians already knew of the NATO expansion, if not the actual detail, (i find that unlikely) and were not amused at the US involvement in early 2009, same year as Obama in Prague. This earlier cable shows that,

www....__._/cable/2009/01/09MOSCOW2.html (unclassified/official use only)

You might think that makes the OP's cable kind of moot, but it's probably more to do with bringing the Embassy up to date, in dealing with opposite numbers at the same level, and the media.

Part of Obama's speech in 2009 also included these remarks,

"So today I am announcing a new international effort to secure all vulnerable nuclear material around the world within four years. We will set new standards, expand our cooperation with Russia, pursue new partnerships to lock down these sensitive materials." (the russian inclusion is probably because the Russians had got the hump, as noted in the above cable)

The full speech is here,

www.huffingtonpost.com...

After all this came the MV 'Arctic Sea' fiasco.

Originally posted by smurfy
Every time something relating to the Baltic sea like this comes up, it reminds me of the mystery of the MV 'Arctic Sea' which was pirated in the Baltic sea, and also in 2009.

en.wikipedia.org...

The whole scenario had never been properly explained, including speculation that something was dumped in the sea from the pirated ship, although all the hijackers were caught and sentenced as pirates. There is also speculation about any Russian government role in the incident. How does it link to this cable, well the cable is advisory, warning that the media have wind of the NATO operation, and what to say if asked, so that it what the cable is about, so no link in that way. The subject of say, US or other NATO missiles being based in the Baltics would be disturbing to the Russians alright, and possibly the Russians might have, (or others) half inched one, and is where the MV 'Arctic Sea' comes in, as all the speculation was that it was carrying something other that a not too valuable cargo of pine.

edit on 29-10-2011 by smurfy because: Text.

Interesting article thanks for sharing. I'm sure I remember that being in the news at the time.

Originally posted by smurfy
The Russians already knew of the NATO expansion, if not the actual detail, (i find that unlikely) and were not amused at the US involvement in early 2009, same year as Obama in Prague. This earlier cable shows that,

www....__._/cable/2009/01/09MOSCOW2.html (unclassified/official use only)

You might think that makes the OP's cable kind of moot, but it's probably more to do with bringing the Embassy up to date, in dealing with opposite numbers at the same level, and the media.

Part of Obama's speech in 2009 also included these remarks,

"So today I am announcing a new international effort to secure all vulnerable nuclear material around the world within four years. We will set new standards, expand our cooperation with Russia, pursue new partnerships to lock down these sensitive materials." (the russian inclusion is probably because the Russians had got the hump, as noted in the above cable)

The full speech is here,

www.huffingtonpost.com...

After all this came the MV 'Arctic Sea' fiasco.

edit on 29-10-2011 by smurfy because: Text.

Its not unlikely, Putin was in charge of Russia at the time. And it was based around an intercept missile system that hadn't been tested in real world conditions. Bush called it the missile defence shield. He proposed setting up a radar station in the Czech Republic and missile defences in Poland.

Cold war #2 slowly in the works.

At least that's kind of what I got out of it.

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Hi, and thanks for welcome!