Potential chemtrails evidence?

reply to post by Gmoneycricket

....if you can not answer contrail pollution answers is your only defense.

Get a better perspective on the reality. Look at satellite images from space.

Contrails are insignificant, at best, in the overall scheme of things.

NOVA: The Contrail Effect

"Aircraft are likely to be a significant factor in future climate, but probably not via their contrails," Hansen told me. "I think our main concern about aircraft will be their CO2 emissions, not contrails, which are a pretty small climate forcing."

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
I just got you to admit that contrails have an regulated amount of radiation in the product.

who - me??

Yep - well done.

You also got me to admit that htere is an allowable amount of radiation in bananas, and in sleeping with someone.

completely meaningless....but well done.

We all know that its OK to pollute as long as you have a permit and follow the regulations of
said pollution.

Yep - you are allowed to drive a car, use electricity generated by fossil fuels, fly in planes and breathe - as long as you follow regulations.

Jet airplanes are blocking humans sunlight and polluting the earth and you will never convince me that
contrails do not affect nature.

Yes ....er........and?? we all know that burnign fossil fuels creates pollution - did you think you were revealing some greater truth to us??

I know I am a bigger threat as I question Contrails.

Like millions of other people who question pollution - aer you in Greenpeace??

Just discussing what may be in Contrails puts you guys on defense.
OK lets go look up
"History Of Jet Fuel Additives"
to see what else you guys have been polluting our sky's with.

Here's Def Stan 91-91 - it tells you exactly what is in Jet A1 fuel - go fill your boots.

Have you ever flown in an aircraft or driven or been driven in a car, or a truck or a train or a bus???? Or used electricity generated by burning fossil fuels? Or bought something that was trucked to the store??

If so then "you guys" includes you too - you are as much a user and generator of pollution by accepting all these activities as anyone else.

If not where are you getting the electricity to write on your computer? where did you get your computer??

So apart from pollution (and I don't know of anyone who thinks it as being actually good) er....so what??

Contrails pollute just as much any other human activity or same you, as you put it to me.

Well you keep calling me stupid while polluting the same as you.

Your job is to explain why your sun-blocking pollution is more acceptable then mine.

reply to post by Gmoneycricket


I don't believe I called you stupid.

Why do I have to explain why some sort of pollution is better than any other? I would much rather there were no pollution at all! Do you think there is some pollutin that is better than other pollution - perhaps you think aircraft exhaust is worse than car exhaust?? why do you think car exhaust is better?

It is not just MY pollution - it is yours too if you have ever travelled by plane, or used products that are shipped by plane.

Sunlight is, apparently, mostly stoped by pollution generated at ground level - ground generated polution also generates clouds - further decreasing sunlight over and above the blocking effects of its own particulates.

But since you are not actually linking any of this to chemtrails you should probably open a thread devoted to the topic of pollution in an appropriate forum rather than hijacking this one.

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul


I have noticed that there is a group of people on here, and anytime someone express's through freedom of speech, what they see in the sky, there is a group that comes down and ridicules them. I think I was accused today of doing drugs( Mushrooms) when I pointed out that condensed water vapor can have containment's.
I will point out that contrails pollute any time I see comments about, whats that in our sky.
So you go about what you feel, is in the sky, and I will with what, I feel is in the sky.

reply to post by Gmoneycricket


You are the one bought mushrooms into the conversation - my reply had a big laugh next to it so was clearly a joke - a word play on yuor suggestion.

Sorry if your sense of humour couldn't cope - but when you make ludicrous comparisons like contrails to mushroom clouds then being lambasted should not be a surprise.

Pollution is a completely different topic to chemtrails. Get over it.

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul


Is that an order
are you and your pilot friend somehow better then any of us
that look up and question whats in the air.
I did exactly what you planned to do when you joined this thread
was to take the conversation from Chemtrails to Contrails.
You have a problem with talking about Contrails?

Be careful what you ask for!
We may stop talking Chemtrails
and start demanding more regulation on contrails.

reply to post by Gmoneycricket


You did nothing like what I did when I joined this thread - I identified smoke and burnign smells in the cabin as a safety issue that will almost always cause a plane to divert to the nearest airport ASAP - nothing to do with contrails.

then I answered some questions that other people asked, and made comments on their posts as seemed appropriate.

Get over that too

And I see nothing particularly wrong with seeking regulation of contrails - as long as you are prepared to pay the price of more expensive air travel and worse pollution by it.

You can do what ever you want.
Meter readers will be replaced with smart meters,
Pilots will be replaced with drones.
Enjoy your existence while you still can,
who am I to make fun of outdated technology.

reply to post by Gmoneycricket


UAV's will still make contrails....

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul


So will cars on cool days.
So am I allowed to point out that contrails pollute
like I said you seemed more threatened by that.
Do you want me to just call contrail pollution, chemtrails too,
is that easier to accept.
This is different, the contrail guys trying to covert me to be a chemtrail believer.

reply to post by Gmoneycricket



I am "threatened" by people slandering me by saying there is a worldwide conspiracy to poison (or whatever) the atmosphere from civil airliners with some nefarious substnaces that no-one can find.

That's just a fact - I work in civil aviation, have done all my working life - in some fairly technical and involved roles with the machinery of aircraft, and with people who's job it is to design and approve the design of aircraft and aircraft systems.

so I think that it would not be possible for the conspiracy to exist without me knowing about it, hence I take exception to people who say it exists because IMO they are slandering me.

If you think you need my permission to think of contrails as pollution then that's your problem - again I'm pointing out the obvious. I don't see why you have a problem with me doing so.

Well I am glad you well be able to keep your job
when they switch to mostly drones.
Take care of yourself as we all know the
pollution at airports is always worse at ground level.

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
Well I am glad you well be able to keep your job
when they switch to mostly drones.
Take care of yourself as we all know the
pollution at airports is always worse at ground level.

Well yeah, compared to those airports that are not at ground level, that apparently levitate.

Currently, drones are very small inconspicuous aircraft which do not contain a pilot or crew.
But they are still piloted and monitored remotely by many people on the ground.

"Drones" do not eliminate real people from the equation/operation.

Even the Mars Rover was guided by people....many more people than would be needed if it was driven by one or two people on Mars.

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